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PrintablePlant and Page leaving Jonesy out was a travesty and they are assholes for doing it point blank--Plants a dick..JPJ kept it together when it was rough and he created In Thru The Out Door( a detested album but I dont know why). And anyone who thinks The Stones without Charlie would go on is karate..I mean karazy. Regardles of th e Glimmer Twins stature and songwriting, Charlie is the heart and soul of that mutherfucka. "Climb in my fur." | |
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otan said: Supernova said: Plant and Page were being silly about JPJ; Plant's excuse was that it wasn't really a Led Zep reunion. True as that was, it was completely rude and disrespectful for them to leave Jones out of the equation. JPJ could have been equally as petty and brought up the fact that he (Jones) was a member of Led Zeppelin before Page even recruited Plant. But all that didn't last long. They've been on good terms since then, and really were never on bad terms before that.
More importantly than seniority, JPJ was the producer on their albums, and arranged most of the songs. They're credited to page/plant, but do the research and you'll find out the JPJ was actually the strongest member of Zeppelin, I was shocked cuz he always seemed like a lucky bystander. Lucky bystander? Some of you are easily fooled by this "quiet member" nonsense. As far as Watts being easily replaced and nobody'd notice, I beg to differ. As much as Bonham made Zeppelin the Heavy Metal Godfathers, Watts made the stones the Bar Band Godfathers - his solid, unaltering, unflashy playing is hard to pull off... most folks would WANT to Bonham it up a little bit, and that's where Watts shines.
And WHERE did I ever say anything about Watts? You're taking it up with the wrong person. The stones are and always will be my number one band. Prince is Prince, and he's number two in my book for all his talent and songwriting skills, but the stones are number one... OVER Zep, Who, and the Beatles even.
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Supernova said: otan said: Supernova said: Plant and Page were being silly about JPJ; Plant's excuse was that it wasn't really a Led Zep reunion. True as that was, it was completely rude and disrespectful for them to leave Jones out of the equation. JPJ could have been equally as petty and brought up the fact that he (Jones) was a member of Led Zeppelin before Page even recruited Plant. But all that didn't last long. They've been on good terms since then, and really were never on bad terms before that.
More importantly than seniority, JPJ was the producer on their albums, and arranged most of the songs. They're credited to page/plant, but do the research and you'll find out the JPJ was actually the strongest member of Zeppelin, I was shocked cuz he always seemed like a lucky bystander. Lucky bystander? Some of you are easily fooled by this "quiet member" nonsense. He said he was a lucky bystander? LOL..he dont know his Zep "Climb in my fur." | |
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sorry about that on JPJ ..I am just ,mad at Page for doing that to him "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Supernova said: otan said: Supernova said: Plant and Page were being silly about JPJ; Plant's excuse was that it wasn't really a Led Zep reunion. True as that was, it was completely rude and disrespectful for them to leave Jones out of the equation. JPJ could have been equally as petty and brought up the fact that he (Jones) was a member of Led Zeppelin before Page even recruited Plant. But all that didn't last long. They've been on good terms since then, and really were never on bad terms before that.
More importantly than seniority, JPJ was the producer on their albums, and arranged most of the songs. They're credited to page/plant, but do the research and you'll find out the JPJ was actually the strongest member of Zeppelin, I was shocked cuz he always seemed like a lucky bystander. Lucky bystander? Some of you are easily fooled by this "quiet member" nonsense. He said he was a lucky bystander? LOL..he dont know his Zep And yet tried to teach me about 'em.  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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rdhull said: sorry about that on JPJ ..I am just ,mad at Page for doing that to him
Plant was equally to blame. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: rdhull said: sorry about that on JPJ ..I am just ,mad at Page for doing that to him
Plant was equally to blame. opps--thats who I meant to say, Plant. I think he was more to blame than Page cuase Page was so out of it in the past that hje probably felt no connection to JPJ or even knew he was a bandmate heh "Climb in my fur." | |
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Supernova said: rdhull said: Supernova said: otan said: Supernova said: Plant and Page were being silly about JPJ; Plant's excuse was that it wasn't really a Led Zep reunion. True as that was, it was completely rude and disrespectful for them to leave Jones out of the equation. JPJ could have been equally as petty and brought up the fact that he (Jones) was a member of Led Zeppelin before Page even recruited Plant. But all that didn't last long. They've been on good terms since then, and really were never on bad terms before that.
More importantly than seniority, JPJ was the producer on their albums, and arranged most of the songs. They're credited to page/plant, but do the research and you'll find out the JPJ was actually the strongest member of Zeppelin, I was shocked cuz he always seemed like a lucky bystander. Lucky bystander? Some of you are easily fooled by this "quiet member" nonsense. He said he was a lucky bystander? LOL..he dont know his Zep And yet tried to teach me about 'em. I know...people trippin "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Plant and Page leaving Jonesy out was a travesty and they are assholes for doing it point blank--Plants a dick..JPJ kept it together when it was rough and he created In Thru The Out Door( a detested album but I dont know why). And anyone who thinks The Stones without Charlie would go on is karate..I mean karazy. Regardles of th e Glimmer Twins stature and songwriting, Charlie is the heart and soul of that mutherfucka.
I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm not trying to weigh Charlie Watts' artistic contribution to the Stones. That wasn't the even the point of your original post in discussing Jagger and Prince. As it pertains to Watts, my statement is this: They went on after Brian Jones, they went on after Bill Wyman, and if for whatever reason Charlie Watts decided to leave the group and Mick, Keith and Ron decided they wanted to continue as the Stones, they would continue to be a huge draw. How relevant they would be musically without Watts is a non issue. I feel that as long as Mick and Keith are up there on stage as the Stones, people will come. | |
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violator said: rdhull said: Plant and Page leaving Jonesy out was a travesty and they are assholes for doing it point blank--Plants a dick..JPJ kept it together when it was rough and he created In Thru The Out Door( a detested album but I dont know why). And anyone who thinks The Stones without Charlie would go on is karate..I mean karazy. Regardles of th e Glimmer Twins stature and songwriting, Charlie is the heart and soul of that mutherfucka.
I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm not trying to weigh Charlie Watts' artistic contribution to the Stones. That wasn't the even the point of your original post in discussing Jagger and Prince. As it pertains to Watts, my statement is this: They went on after Brian Jones, they went on after Bill Wyman, and if for whatever reason Charlie Watts decided to leave the group and Mick, Keith and Ron decided they wanted to continue as the Stones, they would continue to be a huge draw. How relevant they would be musically without Watts is a non issue. I feel that as long as Mick and Keith are up there on stage as the Stones, people will come. I know what u said..I know what I said..and if Charlie stoped with th e Stones..th e people would NOT come..imho of course. "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: violator said: rdhull said: Plant and Page leaving Jonesy out was a travesty and they are assholes for doing it point blank--Plants a dick..JPJ kept it together when it was rough and he created In Thru The Out Door( a detested album but I dont know why). And anyone who thinks The Stones without Charlie would go on is karate..I mean karazy. Regardles of th e Glimmer Twins stature and songwriting, Charlie is the heart and soul of that mutherfucka.
I think you're missing the point of what I'm saying. I'm not trying to weigh Charlie Watts' artistic contribution to the Stones. That wasn't the even the point of your original post in discussing Jagger and Prince. As it pertains to Watts, my statement is this: They went on after Brian Jones, they went on after Bill Wyman, and if for whatever reason Charlie Watts decided to leave the group and Mick, Keith and Ron decided they wanted to continue as the Stones, they would continue to be a huge draw. How relevant they would be musically without Watts is a non issue. I feel that as long as Mick and Keith are up there on stage as the Stones, people will come. I know what u said..I know what I said..and if Charlie stoped with th e Stones..th e people would NOT come..imho of course. That's cool, bro'. Agree to disagree.  | |
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