AaronUniversal said:

softandwet said:[quote]

Anxiety said:

A long while ago someone posted how cool bowienet was and how the NPGMC could learn a thing or two from Bowie net. The attitude was "like his club go join it!" Well I did, I also found that his last three albums were great! I'll prolly always buy his regular releases but to enjoy going and seeing a bunch of fanatics at a soundcheck its no fun. To enjoy the releases that never come it sucks. So I'm content not being so fast to join to see what people say the club is like. This year IMO it really was a disappointment. If your not getting the satisfaction out of it you have to start asking?? What other music is cool?? What other artists treat there fans cool?? I'm sure you'll find someone who is cool! They may even sign a autograph for ya and shake your hand for free. I'm at the point where I blocked out all the religion and I rarely go to the NPGMC, but I'm just gettnig noda out of the experience.

I would say put all those cds away and maybe someday the club will become better. Remember its just a club and in no way a 'team'. You join the country club you get whatever the club has to offer. With a team you join and help to reach a goal. I just see the Club staying the same, the religion- the bullshit- the cancelled releases- no drive to kick radio in the ass- download mp3s from WB albums- the religion- the bullstit- no changes. Remember when he changed every year put out a new album a new style, now its the same over and over. I'll go with bowie net! The last three albums from him have been good for me!!

Oh man RD don't do it...

I did that with my Beatles collection. And I can kick myself in the ass, everyday.

I had everything you could imagine.. magazines, paraphenelia galore... EVERYTHING... I had a small fortune.

I had to replace all of the music.. the other stuff is so gone.

i don't think i'll ever completely wanna 'quit prince'. he's too interesting.

Actually,that cleansing bit is interesting.See how much you really love it or is it just because you don't want to let go of your past?Well,I would never let go of it.I did throw away books of poetry and songs I had done over the years about 2 years ago.I thought that I've been amassing this huge collection of my art.Art I created for myself.What was the point?Why was I scared to free it?I freed it by throwing it away.maybe someone will find something and dig it.Or maybe it will burn.Either way,the thoughts were created and the pattern was released into the atmosphere.In time,that pattern will find its way into someone elses' life.(just a romantic dream)

The point is that I let it go.I stopped keeping it for myself.I started over.I don't need to rely on my past successful experiments.

So,cleanse away,my friend.Let it go.And ,seriously,you could help others out by giving your stuff to them.They might need it to get to the point of enlightenment you've reached.

rdhull said:

Hahn's book was crap. Names are misspelled, facts are wrong and Hahn makes a lousy-ass journalist. I still can't believe this hack worked for all those newspapers...

NuPwrSoul said:

Rd, I have to agree with this and a lot of what's been said here...especially from Anxiety. Prince is "growing old" for you and many others, but you shouldn't "quit". I could say I know how you feel, but i'm not hardcore so I can only empathize. I think you're realizing Prince was a great rollercoaster ride that has run it's course.

Don't give away your stuff! I've done that before, not with PRince, but other "things" I thought I outgrew or had no use for. I found that I always wanted them back, if for no other lame reason "to show my (as yet unborn) grandkids". Prince memorabilia will always have some economic and definitely critical value. So just box it up and put it away if you want to get rid of it. That can be a symbolic "quitting" of Prince without actual physical destruction of the material.

(of course if you really want it out of site, out of mind, I'm merely a few miles up the 210 Freeway )
[This message was edited Tue Nov 25 23:45:05 PST 2003 by beautifulone7]

Rd, I never would have thought you would have this attitude towards Prince or any other celeb for that matter. If you really just don't like ANY of the music anymore (old or new) then yes, you should probably get rid of everything.

But, if your beef is that you don't enjoy prince anymore because the people who run his website are obnoxious and mean to you then you need to take a step back. You may have gone from the hardcore fan category to fanatic catagory and don't want to admit it. Take a break from posting. You've done it before. I mean really, 17,000 posts on the .org alone is a bit much. Besides, the npgmc moderators are small time compared to Bart's years of daily unrelenting bullshit.

Look, I don't even visit the Org that much anymore and I haven't been to a.m.p. in ages. Because quite frankly, how many times do I really need to see posts about "One Man Jam", "prince is a racist", "prince is an asshole", "Get the Revolution back together", "TGE Rocks", "Crystal Ball fiasco" and "princes's downfall"? And on and on. That shit gets old.

We all know prince's deal. Nothing he does these days should surprise any of us. This is why I don't get all bent out of shape over every move he makes in his life and his career. I got issues in my own life to worry about and I'm sure you do too. I love his music and that will never change. It's an escape from real world worries. As for collecting mags and books and crap I've pretty much stopped doing that myself. I got too much shit as it is already.

So dump the books, posters and crap. Keep the music and try skimming just the org for new info on releases/tours, or news and leave the rest alone for a while.

Happy Turkey Day.

Gobble, gobble

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I couldnt even read anymore of the thread when I saw this..Im with HandsClap...this shit is serious

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I appreciate your sentiments 6 my love

but I finally realized it was th e music that matters

I said here in this thread titles "I feel better now--trc helped etc"
http://www.prince.org/msg/7/70557

In other words the "music" brought me semi back to my semi senses...

I realize that I reall am not addicted to much to the music or the man--have only listened to him as of late on whims and when certian things are mentioned..but hwen ned be I get an inspiration to go back to some of it and then Im blown away again

BUT..what and where I have lost perspective and am adddicted with has been th e community I feel..the people etc on both sites and abrpad...it took a while to give up amp and Im nearly on my year anniversary of having gave that joint up but it seems I merely replaced it with the good diverse denizens here and at the other one etc..so I guess its the ol' cliche' everyone says to a point..that I here and there mostly because of the peoplle etc... I said "to a point" because I still got the music of princ eon my mind and it still play an important factor to me..

I realize some of my things have been outrageous and not known or seen as someitmes being tongue and cheek and I appreciate places for allowing to be that way--but I realize this is an addiction as I had in amp many many years ago--pretty soon I will beat this addiction --I think I was just at some low points in the addiction where it affected me and I posted on it and about it...but I dojnt want to exactly say the thrilll is gone but in due time I will have to step up to th eplate and deal with it and I will too... I have to, its been too long too far...I dont want to be singign Satisfaction When Im 40---now if I were to get PAID to do it hehe...but soon it will be dealt with and I hope Im strong enough..I think I am. 20 years completed coming up is a super suitable stopping point

thanks 6 and and everyone who had suggestions and comments...

the3rddoctor said:

This is probably gonna get lost in this thread, but what DID he say in the interview about the 'other persuasion'?

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[This message was edited Fri Nov 28 18:12:33 PST 2003 by thebumpsquad]

thebumpsquad said:

he basically said that white people dont understand him or support him

rdhull said:

he also said something completely stupid, considering the name change. at the time, he was still quite adamant about people referring to him as , rather than Prince, predictably leading to awkwardness when speaking to him in person. he said during that interview that his white fans were really awkward in trying to address him, not knowing what to call him, while the black fans would just call him "Prince" which he seemed to think was a positive thing.


very confusing and hypocritical. he's retarded

AaronUniversal said:

I think this is a case of very bad taste!!!

Moderator??

AaronUniversal said:

Thierry said:

hey, i didn't make it. and it seems apt for the subject. grow up.

rdhull said:

I'm sorry if i seem daft, but what are you talking about here?

rdhull said:

I never knew about that, when was this interview, and is there any transcript available?

The NPGMC forums are vomit inducing, especially with the way fans are treated, that whole Warner Brothers return-the-records shit should not be forgotten. Most of us never bothered, and some kicked up a fuss, and for our trouble they shut down the NPGMC forums, claiming our mindset was destroying Unity. Utter bollocks. Now its easy to blame the NPGMC and excuse Prince but you have to wonder why it happens. Perhaps because it can. This one utterly shit way to treat fans, but I don't see many disappearing or not buying the records. He has a hold over so many, that those acting on his behalf must realise and he's exploiting the situation. Now look at TTD/Sananda- he's equally if not more mental, and his site is free, with regular free songs = happy fans.

Thats why I fucking hate people saying ignore the NPGMC, because its such a good oppurtunity wasted, instead of bringing us music etc, he's just really fucking pissing people off. But who's gonna vote with their feet? No-one, especially if concert dates are announced

sermwanderer said:

co-sign

rdhull said:

Dude, I feel ya man. I've bitched and moan as much as the lot of you. No matter what, you'll still get ridiculed for your opinions even though most ppl on here agree with them. They just see your vulnerability in this matter and take full advantage of it. Immature little kids man, don't listen to them.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I agree with a lot or your points, Six, but I don't follow your logic here. Regardless of my degree of fanaticism about any particular artist (be it a musician, an author, a painter, whatever), I tend to be turned off by people who come across as rude or arrogant towards their fans. The club this year stole $25 from me, as far as I'm concerned, by banning me and not giving any option for a refund...and then taking down the news section so I can't even get the benefit of whatever drips of information leak onto that site. It's very hard for me to listen to music about "loving one another" when the creator of this music is hiring goons to push around the only people who care about him anymore...sometimes I'm able to push that aside and love the music anyway, and sometimes I just have to listen to all the other fantastic music, some of which is created by people I would actually enjoy knowing in real life.

Thierry said:

Come on, if you don't agree with it, ignore. You're just adding more fuel to the fire by giving it this much attention. The opposite of love isn't hate, its indifference. Who said that?

BTW, you're looking like a jackass with you "mommy, make the bad man stop" routine.

theblueangel said:

Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't get fans like you. I don't see how you blame the musician for the personalities of his employees. And prince is arrogant toward everyone, always has been.

Furthermore, some of the things that members have posted (not necessarily you) were primarily to antagonize the mods and prince just to get a rise out of them. And, you know full well prince is not reading even a quarter of the stuff that gets posted on the npgmc. To be honest I've found that some prince's fans may well be some of the most obnoxious fans out there. Don't know what you did to get banned, but I'm sure there's more behind it than they just did it for shits and giggles.

Again, I'm not trying to be an ass but, after being involved in the prince on-line community for almost 10 years I see why prince keeps his distance.