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Reply #30 posted 11/22/03 2:29pm

LouieLaFunk

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where is this list available on the web?
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Reply #31 posted 11/22/03 2:37pm

violator

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violator wrote...Furthermore, I doubt seriously that you'll find another list of this kind that ranks Prince as high.
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but this top 40 is a list of all the lists from around the world so he does rank in the top five.

...and i would also add that this list is only on the acts recorded output, if you also consider how musically talented each act was and how good they were in a live performance then i would say that prince should be even higher if not number one!!!


I'd seriously question that considering that I've seen many lists of this sort before and never seen Prince ranked so high.

And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?
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Reply #32 posted 11/22/03 2:52pm

BinaryJustin

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And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?


Peek-A-Boo Pants!
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Reply #33 posted 11/22/03 3:07pm

violator

BinaryJustin said:

violator said:

And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?


Peek-A-Boo Pants!


And for that, I suppose, we are grateful.
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Reply #34 posted 11/22/03 3:19pm

BinaryJustin

Actually, I've been reading up on how this list was compiled and its made-up of critics' lists from the U.K. and U.S. The compiler of the list is completely non partisan.

Its very interesting.

http://hem.bredband.net/b..._and_a.htm
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Reply #35 posted 11/22/03 3:46pm

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BinaryJustin said:

violator said:

And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?


Peek-A-Boo Pants!




jerked off his guitar!
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Reply #36 posted 11/22/03 3:56pm

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As usual with these lists, Nirvana is way too high and overrated. I think Chuck Berry, SLy Stone, and Micheal Jackson deserve to be higher. Prince is where he should be.
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Reply #37 posted 11/22/03 4:08pm

violator

AaronUniversal said:

BinaryJustin said:

violator said:

And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?


Peek-A-Boo Pants!




jerked off his guitar!


I was implying something meaningful.
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Reply #38 posted 11/22/03 4:09pm

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Nirvana is definitely way too high in this list, as they always always always are. I don't get that. And, I'm not a big MJ fan, but I was definitely expecting him to be no. 1 or 2 for greatest pop act of all time.

Prince being number 5, I'm impressed, but I want it at number 1. smile smile

The converse of that, is that if Prince is at No. 5 or No. 1 this list loses all credibility for me...

And then... if he is in middle of the road (21 - 40), I would say he deserves higher, or shouldn't be mentioned at all...

And then... if he's not mentioned at all, I would say the list is crap once again.

So... in conclusion it really DOES NOT matter where Prince or any other artist is put on this list, there is no way I would ever be happy.

So my opinion is worthless on this issue.

smile
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Reply #39 posted 11/22/03 4:32pm

violator

savoirfaire said:

Nirvana is definitely way too high in this list, as they always always always are. I don't get that. And, I'm not a big MJ fan, but I was definitely expecting him to be no. 1 or 2 for greatest pop act of all time.

Prince being number 5, I'm impressed, but I want it at number 1. smile smile

The converse of that, is that if Prince is at No. 5 or No. 1 this list loses all credibility for me...

And then... if he is in middle of the road (21 - 40), I would say he deserves higher, or shouldn't be mentioned at all...

And then... if he's not mentioned at all, I would say the list is crap once again.

So... in conclusion it really DOES NOT matter where Prince or any other artist is put on this list, there is no way I would ever be happy.

So my opinion is worthless on this issue.

smile


Nirvana, as well as the Sex Pistols, are ranked as high as they are not based on limited output but rather on the basis of their influence. Also, Nirvana's effect on popular music cannot be understated. Before Nirvana, alternative music was a sub-genre. They brought that music to the mainstream and have paved for the way for every grungy wanna-be with a guitar since.
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Reply #40 posted 11/22/03 4:41pm

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violator said:


And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?

You mean like play the guitar, keyboards, bass etc and sing well? lol

p.s i love James Brown but come on.
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Reply #41 posted 11/22/03 4:44pm

violator

bkw said:

violator said:


And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?

You mean like play the guitar, keyboards, bass etc and sing well? lol

p.s i love James Brown but come on.


And yet, it was Prince who lifted at least a third of his stage show from James Brown. Not the other way around.
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Reply #42 posted 11/22/03 4:52pm

violator

bkw said:

violator said:


And exactly what has Prince done in a live performance that James Brown hasn't done before?

You mean like play the guitar, keyboards, bass etc and sing well? lol

p.s i love James Brown but come on.


And furthermore, great musicianship does not equal great stage presence. And many vital parts of Prince's stageshow in this regard can be traced directly back to Brown.
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Reply #43 posted 11/22/03 5:26pm

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I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

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Reply #44 posted 11/22/03 5:28pm

Number23

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1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."



thumbs up!
This is a man who knows what he's talking about.
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Reply #45 posted 11/22/03 5:30pm

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Number23 said:

lmas said:



1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."



thumbs up!
This is a man who knows what he's talking about.



Merci
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Reply #46 posted 11/22/03 6:32pm

mrdespues

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Milty said:

how can Prince be above Jimi Hendrix and James Brown?
confuse


It's simply because he's better than both put together.


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Reply #47 posted 11/22/03 6:54pm

violator

lmas said:

I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

2 my friends VIOLATOR and GYPSYFIRE. With Luv
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 17:29:22 PST 2003 by lmas]


Hendrix, one genre?

I won't argue with you because for you to have made this statement shows that you haven't even listened to Jimi. You're a Prince fan and you're speaking with a fan's heart.
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Reply #48 posted 11/22/03 6:55pm

lovebizzare

well, once again Nirvana ends up on yet another list they have absolutley no buisness being on, the beastie boys should never rank higher than MJ,Sex Pistols, or Sly on any list, REM should not be that high, MJ & James Brown should be in top 5, in fact, other than Prince I don't agree with the top 5 at all The Beatles (with their increasingly oevrrated selves), The Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan are NOT that exciting live, Bowie, well, Bowie should be in top 10, not 5.
Other than those things I think this is a pretty good list, and for the people's above posts remember this list is based a stage presense, NOT how good their music is or if it's better than Prince's.
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Reply #49 posted 11/22/03 7:11pm

violator

lovebizzare said:

well, once again Nirvana ends up on yet another list they have absolutley no buisness being on, the beastie boys should never rank higher than MJ,Sex Pistols, or Sly on any list, REM should not be that high, MJ & James Brown should be in top 5, in fact, other than Prince I don't agree with the top 5 at all The Beatles (with their increasingly oevrrated selves), The Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan are NOT that exciting live, Bowie, well, Bowie should be in top 10, not 5.
Other than those things I think this is a pretty good list, and for the people's above posts remember this list is based a stage presense, NOT how good their music is or if it's better than Prince's.


It is? I never saw anything in the above post that indicated this list was based on stage presence.
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Reply #50 posted 11/22/03 7:16pm

lmas

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violator said:

lmas said:

I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

2 my friends VIOLATOR and GYPSYFIRE. With Luv
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 17:29:22 PST 2003 by lmas]


Hendrix, one genre?

I won't argue with you because for you to have made this statement shows that you haven't even listened to Jimi. You're a Prince fan and you're speaking with a fan's heart.



OK give it 2 me. Hendrix Blues, (4 Violator)Soul, Rock? okay 2
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Reply #51 posted 11/22/03 7:23pm

violator

lmas said:

violator said:

lmas said:

I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

2 my friends VIOLATOR and GYPSYFIRE. With Luv
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 17:29:22 PST 2003 by lmas]


Hendrix, one genre?

I won't argue with you because for you to have made this statement shows that you haven't even listened to Jimi. You're a Prince fan and you're speaking with a fan's heart.



OK give it 2 me. Hendrix Blues/Soul, Rock? okay 2


Blues and soul are not the same thing. By that definition Prince couldn't possibly exceed rock and soul.
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Reply #52 posted 11/22/03 7:28pm

TRON

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I think its OK, the sodding Beatles will always top these things. The Stones are not too high, but who the hell puts the Who above Led Zeppelin? At least Jimi's up there, but whatever you think about Michael Jackson, putting him at no.39 is ridiculous

Yeah, The Who suck big time.
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Reply #53 posted 11/22/03 7:29pm

CHAOSMAN87

Number23 said:

Milty said:

how can Prince be above Jimi Hendrix and James Brown?
confuse


It's simply because he's better than both put together.

fuckin right
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Reply #54 posted 11/22/03 7:45pm

lmas

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violator said:

lmas said:

violator said:

lmas said:

I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

2 my friends VIOLATOR and GYPSYFIRE. With Luv
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 17:29:22 PST 2003 by lmas]


Hendrix, one genre?

I won't argue with you because for you to have made this statement shows that you haven't even listened to Jimi. You're a Prince fan and you're speaking with a fan's heart.



OK give it 2 me. Hendrix Blues/Soul, Rock? okay 2


Blues and soul are not the same thing. By that definition Prince couldn't possibly exceed rock and soul.

oh damn put a (/) instead of a (,). U cats are so superficial when a argu...discussion is not going your way. I will go back and edit that just "4 U" (Prince 1978) Violet....oops did it again, damn keyboard
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Reply #55 posted 11/22/03 7:52pm

violator

lmas said:

violator said:

lmas said:

violator said:

lmas said:

I sincerely doubt that Prince has released anything that has had the impact and influence of 'Are You Experienced' or 'Electric Ladyland'.



U R mad right?

1999 changed the entire 'scape of pop and R&B music in the 80 and 90's. Some may argue that even in this current decade of Pop music (that still sounds 80-90ish) his influrnce is still strong, and I'm not just talking about synth. manipulation, but the entire sound itself. Don't fool yourself into believing just because he currently does not release truly inovative music, that he no longer has influence. Jimi is the "electric"guitar GOD and James the "Godfather of soul", but they are confined to the genre, one genre of the music scheme. Prince has always been "out the box."

2 my friends VIOLATOR and GYPSYFIRE. With Luv
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 17:29:22 PST 2003 by lmas]


Hendrix, one genre?

I won't argue with you because for you to have made this statement shows that you haven't even listened to Jimi. You're a Prince fan and you're speaking with a fan's heart.



OK give it 2 me. Hendrix Blues/Soul, Rock? okay 2


Blues and soul are not the same thing. By that definition Prince couldn't possibly exceed rock and soul.

oh damn put a (/) instead of a (,). U cats are so superficial when a argu...discussion is not going your way. I will go back and edit that just "4 U" (Prince 1978) Violet...oops did it again, damn keyboard
[This message was edited Sat Nov 22 19:47:49 PST 2003 by lmas]


How on earth is it not going my way? I could care less how many of you agree or disagree with me.
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Reply #56 posted 11/22/03 7:53pm

lmas

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How on earth is it not going my way? I could care less how many of you agree or disagree with me.




Man the look on this guy's face. I'm just fuckin with U dude.
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Reply #57 posted 11/22/03 8:09pm

violator

lmas said:

violator said:



How on earth is it not going my way? I could care less how many of you agree or disagree with me.




Man the look on this guy's face. I'm just fuckin with U dude.


I think you're fucking with yourself.
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Reply #58 posted 11/22/03 9:07pm

lmas

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violator said:

lmas said:

violator said:



How on earth is it not going my way? I could care less how many of you agree or disagree with me.




Man the look on this guy's face. I'm just fuckin with U dude.


I think you're fucking with yourself.




U did it again, I'm laughing so hard I just split my pants...
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Reply #59 posted 11/22/03 11:23pm

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Prince ain't #1?

no no no!
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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