The booklet in Crystal Ball (yes, I JUST now bought it) refers to a turncoat.

Who is it and what happened?

I'm sure someone here knows, right?

If you mean the song "Dream Factory",I think he's talking about Paul Peterson,but I could be wrong.

That's the one who was in "The Family", right?

the3rddoctor said:

Correct.

Paul was Punk Of The Month--they chanted that

rdhull said:

That was a great rehearsal and very funny it was too.

giotto said:

Im going ot have to play that today

rdhull said:

LOL!!! That shit was fierce and cold man!

Neversin.

So it is definetely Paul?

What did he do?

the3rddoctor said:

He made Prince scream and shout like a bitch through the phone when he announced that he wanted to quit "The Family"...

Neversin.

the3rddoctor said:

He left the royal court to pursue hisown career in Hollywood ...after or while being disappoinited with the way management and Prince handled The Family etc

rdhull said:

And THAT's it? Prince wrote a fricking song about it?

Talk about being overly sensitive...

the3rddoctor said:

It isn't about only being overly sensitive..heres an example..I wrote this in amp but tell me what u think:

"Everytime I see Godfather I think of how Prince was supposedly such a fan of
the movie that he named his PR counterpart female lead Apollonia, as in
Michaels mate when he went to Sicily(sp?) to hide.

More Godfather comparisons are how the press used to call Prince's "thing"
the Minn. mafia and that Prince was the leader/godfather. He fires Jimmy and
Terry for going outside of "the family"..i.e. producing for other artists
not in the family:"never say what you are thinking outside of the family"
-Brando.

And there ya go again, The Family as a name for another of his MN.Mafia
groups.When the lead singer jumped ship from that group, The Family, he had
the crowd chant"Paul-punk of the month"(St Paul) in a rehearsal concert.Then he
made the song Dream Factory as a metaphor for ordering a "hit" on Paul as
well. BJB follwed years later.

"I guess Prince's version of wacking someone is to write a deragatory song
about them. I guess he had done mucho favors for these people in his family as
well, giving them starting points in their careers and such as a don would
do-As in how Vito made it possible for Johhny Fontaine to be in the movie
that a producer wouldnt let happen until they played with the producers
horsey (which is a direct acknowledgemnt to Frank Sinatras situation in getting
the role in From Here To Eternity which he won an oscar for). Don Prince
was on some Corleone shit in the 80's."


seems like to get his attention u have to appeal to somethig that he is displeased with...hmmm..maybe Ive been going about this whole namecheck thing wrong..hmmm..maybe if I become awful to him then...

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 9:57:09 PST 2003 by rdhull]

Yeah, God forbid that Paul Petersen would only want for himself what Prince expects and demands in his own career.

violator said:

Never go against the family

rdhull said:

Well it seems that to be in Prince's family is to be used for a couple of years and fired. Right? I don't know, really. I stopped following closely after the Revolution was fired.

the3rddoctor said:

That is correct..if you dont behave then you get the boot. Prince pays the rent in that raggedy muthafucka.

rdhull said:

'Raggedy' being the key word.

violator said:

I'd take his raggedy over what is usually termed raggedy any day

Prince..Im loyal..we have a breach in security though...time to get that pen, paper, and piano out

rdhull said:

At least we'd get some 'work' out of him.

violator said:

You're going to end up getting a song written about you if you are not careful

rdhull said:

I'm ready for my closeup.

rd & violator

violator said:

Damn...even violator who is raggfin on "ol boy" would end up gettin a namecheck before me--I swear Imma turn into Bart Jr, effa Carls Jr, if I dont get some respect from the royal court "toot sweet"!

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 10:29:42 PST 2003 by rdhull]

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

rdhull said:

Really? Which boot do you get?

charlottegelin said:

The one titled "Get Gone" boot

So to sum this up, Paul decided to try to further his career and Prince saw this as being a turncoat?

Does Prince not think other people can have a career?

LMAO

rdhull said:

oh, i have that one. isn't that one of liberation's?


going to put it on now