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Reply #30 posted 11/13/03 10:02am

Romance1600

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SquirrelMeat said:

Prince, where he released inferior versions ?

1. Kiss
3. Tick Tick Bang


Wa?

The Tick, Tick Bang original is fantastic!!

As for Kiss, well that's all thanks to David Z and Mazarati, huh!

Feel U Up and I.Bitch - the unreleased versions are interesting, but both released versions are better IMO.
[This message was edited Thu Nov 13 10:03:33 PST 2003 by Romance1600]
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Reply #31 posted 11/13/03 10:08am

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I prefer the demo version of 'Tick, Tick, Bang' 2 the 'GB' version.

'Irresistable Bitch' & 'Feel U Up' are both better in their released form.
Same as 'Come' - as jtgillia said: the horns make it better.
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Reply #32 posted 11/13/03 5:34pm

YODAHENDRIX

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rdhull said:

Because Prince does not feel thbe world deserves some of th e good songs and some of th e good versions of them...honest. He stated in a 1990-92 interview in Vibe or Spin..I think its Spin ( D&P era) about hw he had a great song he kept off of D&P because it was too good for release..he would "put it on The Dawn" etc..so he seems to have this upper-crust attitude that his good ones are too good to be heard by the rest of humanity at large lol..really. I know it seems like a backwards azz thing to do such as not releasing great great material but thats what makes him our lil Princey lol.

What is too good?

Why would an artist wish 2 put out inferior work knowingly and intentionally.

Has the guy no sense of legacy?

I don'tthink sumtimes that he is the best pair of ears when it comes 2 sequencing and editing himself.
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
"I've got a face, not just my race, Bang
Bang I've got you babe!"
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Reply #33 posted 11/13/03 5:40pm

YODAHENDRIX

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langebleu said:

JavierAlcalde said:

danielboon said:

the original version of "old friends" is one o the best songs ive ever heard.


What version? The strings version? Don't you like the version released in "The Vault... Old friends for sale".
What is the difference?


Lyrical differences:

1985 version:

Old Friends 4 Sale

The sun set in the west this mornin'
4 I know, I know L.A. is callin'
Bad news, Steve said, and people are talkin'
They say your kingdom is fallin', yeah
They say U lost your fire
When another musician U hired
Little do they know, U wouldn't have passed go
Unless they could take U higher, yeah

The sun set in my heart this afternoon
4 2 friends of mine got stuck in the snow
In Uptown when winter's alarmin', oh
Cocaine becomes charmin'
But U talk about things U don't know 'bout
I know, no matter how pleasant your past was
Green and white return 2 blue
U're happy as long as your last buzz
And then U think U want something new, yeah

The sun, the sun set in my mind this evening
4 someone who said they would die 4 me
Sold some, they sold some more pictures and all my little memories
Chump change is 2 unravel the mystery, ah ha
But life is no fun, life ain't no fun without fantasy
Some things are better left unsaid
And some people are better left untrusted
Maybe, maybe, maybe it'll all make sense when I'm dead
When I'm dead

Old friends 4 sale
Get'em while the gettin' is hot
Watch out, they'll kiss U until they get what U got
And they'll show U the friends that they're not
Old friends 4 sale

Courtesy of http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...5.html#old

Vault version

Old Friends 4 Sale


The sun set in my heart this evenin'
Cuz an old friend of mine got lost in the jive
Little did she know, when U're stuck in the snow
Nobody gets out alive

Tears fall gently in my garden
As I wait in vain 4 my sweet baby 2 call
I guess what my own brother told me was true
He had been with my sweet baby and she never really loved me at all

Night fell so dark this evenin'
The moon wasn't shinin' nowhere
Sometimes that old light in the alley would light up this old heart of mine
But now I'm wonderin' if there's someone up there who really cares

The night fell darkest in Persia
What used 2 flow blue is now flowin' black
Many a doctor can try, but only heaven knows why
When it comes 2 love, why do some men, why do some men turn their backs?
Can't somebody please tell me?

Maybe the morning air will make me feel better
Oh, I hope better than I feel right now
Last night a stranger took my picture and then he, uh..
He asked if I'd buy it, huh
I said, "I guess I don't know how"

Old, old friends 4 sale
Get'em while the gettin' is hot
But U better watch out, they'll kiss U until they get what U got
And they'll show U the friends that they're not
Old friends 4 sale
(Yeah, hey, yeah, ooh)


© 1999 Controversy Music - ASCAP

courtesy: http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...ml#friends

Thank u 4 that. As we can see a vastly superior version was never officially released.
Those words are so personal and wonderfully realised.

The second version is inferior in everyway it has its charm but what is it about.
The 1st version is explicit and clear and is a work of genius because of it.

man if only Prince released this stuff back...sheesh
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
"I've got a face, not just my race, Bang
Bang I've got you babe!"
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Reply #34 posted 11/13/03 5:44pm

YODAHENDRIX

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YODAHENDRIX said:

langebleu said:

JavierAlcalde said:

danielboon said:

the original version of "old friends" is one o the best songs ive ever heard.


What version? The strings version? Don't you like the version released in "The Vault... Old friends for sale".
What is the difference?


Lyrical differences:

1985 version:

Old Friends 4 Sale

The sun set in the west this mornin'
4 I know, I know L.A. is callin'
Bad news, Steve said, and people are talkin'
They say your kingdom is fallin', yeah
They say U lost your fire
When another musician U hired
Little do they know, U wouldn't have passed go
Unless they could take U higher, yeah

The sun set in my heart this afternoon
4 2 friends of mine got stuck in the snow
In Uptown when winter's alarmin', oh
Cocaine becomes charmin'
But U talk about things U don't know 'bout
I know, no matter how pleasant your past was
Green and white return 2 blue
U're happy as long as your last buzz
And then U think U want something new, yeah

The sun, the sun set in my mind this evening
4 someone who said they would die 4 me
Sold some, they sold some more pictures and all my little memories
Chump change is 2 unravel the mystery, ah ha
But life is no fun, life ain't no fun without fantasy
Some things are better left unsaid
And some people are better left untrusted
Maybe, maybe, maybe it'll all make sense when I'm dead
When I'm dead

Old friends 4 sale
Get'em while the gettin' is hot
Watch out, they'll kiss U until they get what U got
And they'll show U the friends that they're not
Old friends 4 sale

Courtesy of http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...5.html#old

Vault version

Old Friends 4 Sale


The sun set in my heart this evenin'
Cuz an old friend of mine got lost in the jive
Little did she know, when U're stuck in the snow
Nobody gets out alive

Tears fall gently in my garden
As I wait in vain 4 my sweet baby 2 call
I guess what my own brother told me was true
He had been with my sweet baby and she never really loved me at all

Night fell so dark this evenin'
The moon wasn't shinin' nowhere
Sometimes that old light in the alley would light up this old heart of mine
But now I'm wonderin' if there's someone up there who really cares

The night fell darkest in Persia
What used 2 flow blue is now flowin' black
Many a doctor can try, but only heaven knows why
When it comes 2 love, why do some men, why do some men turn their backs?
Can't somebody please tell me?

Maybe the morning air will make me feel better
Oh, I hope better than I feel right now
Last night a stranger took my picture and then he, uh..
He asked if I'd buy it, huh
I said, "I guess I don't know how"

Old, old friends 4 sale
Get'em while the gettin' is hot
But U better watch out, they'll kiss U until they get what U got
And they'll show U the friends that they're not
Old friends 4 sale
(Yeah, hey, yeah, ooh)


© 1999 Controversy Music - ASCAP

courtesy: http://www.dtt-lyrics.com...ml#friends

Thank u 4 that. As we can see a vastly superior version was never officially released.
Those words are so personal and wonderfully realised.

The second version is inferior in everyway it has its charm but what is it about.
The 1st version is explicit and clear and is a work of genius because of it.

man if only Prince released this stuff back then...sheesh
Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
Is this 2morrow or just the END of time?
The Funk will always b with u
"I've got a face, not just my race, Bang
Bang I've got you babe!"
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Reply #35 posted 11/13/03 9:04pm

enjoyniki

OMG, MArkk i was just recently thinking the same thang... I don'tlike the released version of Empty Room or RAVE all and I love the bootleg versions. Come is very similiar so it is not too bad but know i wonder what he is gonna do to Musicology
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