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Printablebananacologne said: ALthough one of the greatest songs e has ever written, he can't hold a candle 2 her version, sorry.
Sinead's is sung with so much regret and longing - almost pleading 4 a second chance in the last few choruses. Perfect - even Prince started whacking it out in his sets as soon as it became a hit, (and 2 be fair, he hadnt bothered with it since 85/86 with the whole Family thing). Sublime. bang on as usual mr cologne ! | |
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FunkMistress said: CrozzaUK said: The one on The Hits with Rosie is bad
You're the second person on this thread to say that, so I'm obliged to say I absolutely adore this version. It's my favorite version, hands-down. I'll take it any day over Sinead's, The Family's and the numerous live solo versions I've heard. I think he and Rosie completely nail the emotion of the song and, together with the band, bring it to a breathtaking climax. yeh..i agree with u missy 'Scrubdadishes!' | |
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I commend Prince for writing the lyrics to this song, some of his best, in fact, but his version with Rosie is just dreadful.
The family's and sinead's versions are great and far more superior to prince & rosie's, IMHO. ~KiKi | |
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So when did Prince originally record it? Which album was it on (besides The Hits)? I've only ever heard that version with Rosie and yeah, I love the song unquestionably but I do tend to find it a bit "Vegas" (good term, whoever I just copied it from). | |
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I love The Family version and was gutted when Sinead recorded it. I think it was done purely out of spite at the time. Fargnoli who was Prince's ex manager picked her up as part of his stable of stars and then used this Prince track to re-launch her. Fargnoli would have known how personal this song was and how much it would hurt Prince to see someone else singing it. Cold and calculating.
So yup I can't listen to Sinead's version. In the distance a light shines and I know it is mine. Someday I will touch it because it calls me. It says cross the line, cross the line. I know everything is not always what it seems, so I pinch myself daily just in case it's a dream | |
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67TBirdHeartAttack said: Cold and calculating.
hmm...I've heard someone from the prince camp (mark, I think) use those word to describe Steve himself. I never really gave much thought to the fact that he was her manger, he could have done it out of spite (I mean, how else did she know about this song? did she have The Family's album? hmmm), inetresting, never thought of that. Anyway, all that put aside, I still think her version is great. I think if many people just put aside the fact that it's her (I know her name carries a lot of baggage with it) and just listened to it they'd realize she did a great job on this. Whether it was sincere or not, it was still a great cover. ~KiKi | |
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EverlastingNow said: That song leaves no doubt how he felt about Susannah that's for sure.
didn't he write it before he even knew her? if not, deep  ~KiKi | |
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67TBirdHeartAttack said: I love The Family version and was gutted when Sinead recorded it. I think it was done purely out of spite at the time. Fargnoli who was Prince's ex manager picked her up as part of his stable of stars and then used this Prince track to re-launch her. Fargnoli would have known how personal this song was and how much it would hurt Prince to see someone else singing it. Cold and calculating.
So yup I can't listen to Sinead's version. I don't know the story, but I've always thought Prince wanted somebody else to record that song, or at least wanted to do more with it at a later time. He wrote the entire Family album, but Nothing Compares 2 U is the only song he took credit for. Maybe I'm reading something into it, but that always struck me as him wanting that song to stand out. Maybe Fargnoli knew that and beat Prince to it, but that wouldn't have been Sinead's fault. She already had a successful first album, and her second album would have been great even without Prince's song. That's just my opinion, though. | |
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The song is song good, I don't think any suck, but for me, the released Family version is by far the best. Very original in its production. It was my favourite song for between 85 and 90, and I couldn't believe P had kept it for himself.
Sinead did a good job, but her vocals aren't the strongest, and the production was obviously commercial. If I had to rate them, to me it would be: 1. Released Family Version 2. Prince (Nudity Version) 3. Sineads Version 4. Family (Alternative Version) 5. All of Prince's other caberet versions I don't think Steve Fagnoli ever picked that song for Sinead to get back at Prince. I think he knew, for five years, that Prince had been ingnoring a potential classic. I'm sure they had many arguements over single choices over the years, and Prince won nearly all of them. When Steve was proved right with Sinead, it then became a kind of "two fingers" to Prince. . | |
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lovebizzare said: 67TBirdHeartAttack said: Cold and calculating.
hmm...I've heard someone from the prince camp (mark, I think) use those word to describe Steve himself. I never really gave much thought to the fact that he was her manger, he could have done it out of spite (I mean, how else did she know about this song? did she have The Family's album? hmmm), inetresting, never thought of that. Anyway, all that put aside, I still think her version is great. I think if many people just put aside the fact that it's her (I know her name carries a lot of baggage with it) and just listened to it they'd realize she did a great job on this. Whether it was sincere or not, it was still a great cover. I read an interview with her where she said she had their album yes, and that that track really stood out 4 her and made her weep. As 4 the rest, I think ur reading more than a little too much in2 all this! If anything, I think it bugged the shit out of Prince that someone else had SUCH a massive hit with it after he'd sat on that gem 4 so long. I'd say it was a bit of a wake-up call 4 him. Doesnt change the fact that it's the better version - and a number one song around the world, still played on radio. ...and yeah, The Hits version DOES suck (the 'production' on the drums is bloody dreadful!) The one time Ive seen him nail it was on the Rave show - thought that was great, but I prefer it without Rosie - the Nude Tour versions were good - just Him. 
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DavidEye said: howcomeudontcallme said: Sinead has since stated on television that her and Prince's infamous 'fight' was nothing more than a pillow fight.
(sigh) Sinead is one weird chick.In 1991,she told a completely different story.I now wonder if it was all just a silly publicity stunt that she and Prince came up with? Anyway,this is what she said back then... According to o'Connor,Prince invited her to Paisley Park but then he started to cuss her out."You know,you really should start wearing dresses and stop swearing so much",he reportedly told her."He continually said that he was gonna beat the shit out of me",Sinead claims.Prince then sent his limo driver away,leaving Sinead with no way to get back to the airport."I was crying but he just laughed at me,saying that once again,my big mouth had gotten me in trouble",O'Connor claims. Sinead thinks she knows the real reason for his funky attitude."His problem is that I did a song of his ("Nothing Compares 2 U") without him being involved",she says."He's jealous.And he did tell me that he wishes I had never done his song.I think that,frankly,that song saved his fucking ass.He was in serious financial trouble until that song happened". Reality or a publicity stunt? LOL [This message was edited Tue Nov 11 4:00:12 PST 2003 by DavidEye] yep, i think it was a publicity stunt. You do as I say | |
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howcomeudontcallme said: Sinead has since stated on television that her and Prince's infamous 'fight' was nothing more than a pillow fight. Besides, the initial thread wasnt about that old and tired story. It concerned itself with the fact that sinead was being highly appreciative and respectfull to its composer. Nice. You are aware enough to hear it from the horse's mouth before you decide what the truth is. Remember peeps, Man and Woman do have disagreements. Viva la difference!...
Prince in a sense catapulted Sinead onto the world stage. It is almost as if he knew that the song was one that should be sang from a woman's point of view. I know it was written for the family (I think). That is one of the virtues of accepting the anima and animus in our individual self. The tears were awesome. The feeling was awesome. There seems to be something so right about Sinead singing that number. Remember, tho' Sinead, something else that Prince has written: "Don't cry unless you're happy. Don't smile unless you're blue" 'Cos we don't want that lonely monster taking controlling of us, I think. Sure, Godzilla may be coming to town. But he under-estimates King Kong... --------
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SquirrelMeat said: The song is song good, I don't think any suck, but for me, the released Family version is by far the best.
I TOTALLY AGREE as I've said before on here. The Family's version is the definitive version to me. 1. Released Family Version
2. Prince (Nudity Version) 3. Sineads Version 4. Family (Alternative Version) What alternative version? Do you mean on Family Business the rehearsal CD? Plus, how could Steve F. get Sinead to do it without P's permission? Doesn't he have to agree for a recorded version plus get royalties?  |
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I liked The Family's version the best. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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GaryMF said: SquirrelMeat said: The song is song good, I don't think any suck, but for me, the released Family version is by far the best.
I TOTALLY AGREE as I've said before on here. The Family's version is the definitive version to me. 1. Released Family Version
2. Prince (Nudity Version) 3. Sineads Version 4. Family (Alternative Version) What alternative version? Do you mean on Family Business the rehearsal CD? Plus, how could Steve F. get Sinead to do it without P's permission? Doesn't he have to agree for a recorded version plus get royalties? This page might help explain some of the legalities of recorded music. http://www.ascap.com/lice...fined.html | |
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GaryMF said: Plus, how could Steve F. get Sinead to do it without P's permission? Doesn't he have to agree for a recorded version plus get royalties? Does the word Slave ring any bells? Wasn't this the issue with the whole WB dispute. Prince wasn't required to give permission and I vaguely remember something about Fargnoli owning rights to a handful of songs as well. So many artists when young virtually sign over their soul to get a recording deal. I am sure there are many many people in the same boat out there. George Michael springs to mind with his whole Sony dispute as well. In the distance a light shines and I know it is mine. Someday I will touch it because it calls me. It says cross the line, cross the line. I know everything is not always what it seems, so I pinch myself daily just in case it's a dream | |
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67TBirdHeartAttack said: GaryMF said: Plus, how could Steve F. get Sinead to do it without P's permission? Doesn't he have to agree for a recorded version plus get royalties? Does the word Slave ring any bells? Wasn't this the issue with the whole WB dispute. Prince wasn't required to give permission and I vaguely remember something about Fargnoli owning rights to a handful of songs as well. So many artists when young virtually sign over their soul to get a recording deal. I am sure there are many many people in the same boat out there. George Michael springs to mind with his whole Sony dispute as well. ooh, boy... -SWANGwon'teven | |
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