I agree with you. I listen "SOTT" every time I can, and I don't do the same with TRC, but I like it.

on TRC Prince takes his quest back to the roots of black music.

I thought Wedding Feast was not a "song" per se but more like a 54 second "segue", and also not to be taken seriously.

Wedding Feast is an embarrassment whether it's a song or a segue. You'd get shot drivin' through the 'hood with that playing!
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Sign O' The Times was a safe album of nice pop songs. I loved it 8 years ago but now I have an appreciation for good musicianship. I still like SOTT but I only listen to it every once in a while.

It's funny some are comparing TRC to SOTT and Lovesexy, neither of which are favorites of mine. It just goes to show that everybody has their own tastes-- that's a good thing.

antoon said:

I wonder also. The worms around my area are all mute.

soulpower said:

Isn't it enough that Prince made it a 'religious' thing without ppl like you making it a 'race' thing, sad, very sad!!!

there are a fair amount of people
here on prince org. that still think how ,
the best prince albums are lovesexy and sign o the times.
well that's not true,
rainbow children is the best .

1)all guitar solos on sign o the times(with an exception of "i could never take the place" )
and lovesexy(with exception of anna stasia) are improvised.

on the rainbow children album all guitar solos (except family name ending solo) are thematic guitar solos with begging,middle end end.

2)all the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy(except dance on) have standard 4/4 time beat.
rainbow children have variations in the rhytmic depatment,take everywhere as an example.


3)some of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy sound outdated because of the drumm programing,while rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.


4)many of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy have simple chord proggresion,with only 2 chords(the cross) or 3 or 4 chords(lie anna stasia,i could never take the place of your man.)
and chord progresion ,
is predictable on most the songs,
while they arrangmants make 'em work of genios.
but on the other side,rainbow children cd contain songs with unpredictable chord progression
and you never know what next will happen' on those songs.
also he used many unis lines(when all the instruments play the same line.)examples are family name,last december,the work.

some people here complain about wedding feast.that songwas meant to be only a joke.
for me starfish and coffie is children song.

so those are the facts,rainbow children is musicly the best prince album the one real musician fans of prince always wanted and belived that prince could make.
amen

Lammastide said:

You'd probably get shot with anything Prince playing lol.

Great breakdown, thebanishedone.

I guess this pretty well illustrates the underlying dichotomy between the Prince of yesteryear and the Prince of today: The former was a spontaneous creative rogue; the latter is a measured, thinking composer.

I totally appreciate the merits of sophisticated arrangements and I respect where Prince has arrived, but sometimes sheer funk, instinct and ethos are more effective, I think.

"People like me"??? Can you define that?
Its not my fault that Prince is turning his back to pop and is getting more into funk and Jazz. Is that a "race" thing? Or simply a matter of style? Chill, dude, and read again.

soulpower said:

People like you means people like me!

Pop, Funk & Jazz = MUSIC

Its all music, granted. But there is a different approach to all of it. Jazz is not popular music, it exists due to the creative urge to play music. Popular music however, at least today, is produced to satisfy the masses and make money.
With "Rave", his last pop-album, Prince has tried one last time to write hits and please the masses. He failed, and underwent a change of mind, and that is going back to the roots of black music, as I have said above. This move did cost him many "popular votes".

Wedding Feast is an embarrassment whether it's a song or a segue. You'd get shot drivin' through the 'hood with that playing!

I do think the "...unless it's snowing" harmony is really pretty, though. Too bad these last two seconds couldn't save the whole thing.

there are a fair amount of people
here on prince org. that still think how ,
the best prince albums are lovesexy and sign o the times.
well that's not true,
rainbow children is the best .

1)all guitar solos on sign o the times(with an exception of "i could never take the place" )
and lovesexy(with exception of anna stasia) are improvised.

on the rainbow children album all guitar solos (except family name ending solo) are thematic guitar solos with begging,middle end end.

2)all the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy(except dance on) have standard 4/4 time beat.
rainbow children have variations in the rhytmic depatment,take everywhere as an example.


3)some of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy sound outdated because of the drumm programing,while rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.


4)many of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy have simple chord proggresion,with only 2 chords(the cross) or 3 or 4 chords(lie anna stasia,i could never take the place of your man.)
and chord progresion ,
is predictable on most the songs,
while they arrangmants make 'em work of genios.
but on the other side,rainbow children cd contain songs with unpredictable chord progression
and you never know what next will happen' on those songs.
also he used many unis lines(when all the instruments play the same line.)examples are family name,last december,the work.

some people here complain about wedding feast.that songwas meant to be only a joke.
for me starfish and coffie is children song.

so those are the facts,rainbow children is musicly the best prince album the one real musician fans of prince always wanted and belived that prince could make.
amen

Well, I'd KIN-da agree with that.

I'd submit that Prince has been experimenting with jazz for years. Think of Madhouse and the stuff on the Vault. Think of the 90's NPG period that produced a fuller, lusher, and at times more "soulful sound" than the more experimental 80's period. He's been playing "black" music all along; how could a black artist who makes music not play "black music"?

Prince didn't discover jazz in 2001 any more than he discovered rock after 1984. Like rock, jazz has always been an underpinning of P's music.

We must be vigilant against revisionism here!

I agree with you... BUT: Up to 2001, all jazz-influenced works were side-projects. Madhouse. NPG. Unless you wanna call "Strollin" a serious attempt to play jazz, there is no real jazzy effort in Prince`s regular albums (although he`d do it live). Its since TRC that he would move away from the mainstream and allow himself to dig deeper in the crates of black music.