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Thread started 10/24/03 9:26pm

thebanishedone

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i'll give you all the reasons why rainbow children is better then lovesexy and sign o the times

there are a fair amount of people
here on prince org. that still think how ,
the best prince albums are lovesexy and sign o the times.
well that's not true,
rainbow children is the best .

1)all guitar solos on sign o the times(with an exception of "i could never take the place" )
and lovesexy(with exception of anna stasia) are improvised.

on the rainbow children album all guitar solos (except family name ending solo) are thematic guitar solos with begging,middle end end.

2)all the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy(except dance on) have standard 4/4 time beat.
rainbow children have variations in the rhytmic depatment,take everywhere as an example.


3)some of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy sound outdated because of the drumm programing,while rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.


4)many of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy have simple chord proggresion,with only 2 chords(the cross) or 3 or 4 chords(lie anna stasia,i could never take the place of your man.)
and chord progresion ,
is predictable on most the songs,
while they arrangmants make 'em work of genios.
but on the other side,rainbow children cd contain songs with unpredictable chord progression
and you never know what next will happen' on those songs.
also he used many unis lines(when all the instruments play the same line.)examples are family name,last december,the work.

some people here complain about wedding feast.that songwas meant to be only a joke.
for me starfish and coffie is children song.

so those are the facts,rainbow children is musicly the best prince album the one real musician fans of prince always wanted and belived that prince could make.
amen
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Reply #1 posted 10/24/03 9:32pm

soladeo1

COMPLETELY AGREED!!!

TRC IS PRINCE'S GREATEST ALBUM, BAR NONE!!

I FOUGHT IT LONG AND HARD BUT NOW I MUST ADMIT IT'S TRUE...

Soladeo
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Reply #2 posted 10/24/03 9:57pm

magnificentsyn
thesizer667

neutral
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Reply #3 posted 10/24/03 10:02pm

lovebizzare

yeah, if you break it down, "musically" it can be said it's his best.
HOWEVER, there are some that simply prefer SOTT and/or Lovesexy to TRC.

But if you like TRC better, cool. It's all opinion.
~KiKi
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Reply #4 posted 10/24/03 10:45pm

Moonbeam

Sometimes simplicity and minimalism is what it's all about. TRC is a good album, but I wouldn't rank it among Prince's top 10.
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Reply #5 posted 10/24/03 11:30pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

trc and lovesexy are my favorites; i love them equally. parade comes in at a very close 2nd place. i understand what you're saying, banishedone, but you can't really tell people that what they think is wrong. its all subjective. i think lovesexy was a very experimental album. to this day, there is nothing else that sounds like it. the same can be said of trc. does that make a 'best' album? to some, yes...but not to all.

i do love your passion for the recording, though! smile
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Reply #6 posted 10/25/03 1:11am

softandwet

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

trc and lovesexy are my favorites; i love them equally. parade comes in at a very close 2nd place. i understand what you're saying, banishedone, but you can't really tell people that what they think is wrong. its all subjective. i think lovesexy was a very experimental album. to this day, there is nothing else that sounds like it. the same can be said of trc. does that make a 'best' album? to some, yes...but not to all.

i do love your passion for the recording, though! smile




what i think is amazing about prince is the fact that he takes something simple and done before, ie an A chord and an E chord, and turns it into something that makes shivers run over your body and tears prick your eyes!like the cross, or forever in my life, simple song but fucking amazing, though the backing vox on that is out of the normal span!!
the fact he improved the solos on sign and lovesexy blows me away though, i love the guitar on lovesexy!
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Reply #7 posted 10/25/03 3:02am

Romance1600

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thebanishedone said:

there are a fair amount of people
here ... (snip) blah, blah, blah, blah...


It's all down to personal taste.
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I'm a sucker for a major chord
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/03 3:17am

VANITYSprisonB
YTCH

Why compare?!!

SOTT and LOVESEXY is where P was then...

TRC is were P is now...

Though most will regard SOTT as his masterpiece (as do I)...TRC is a masterpiece in itself...it's all about the music...more so than ever before!

Put SOTT and TRC together in random rotation and you are really in for a treat!
Every minute of last night is on my face today....
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/03 6:53am

JavierAlcalde

I love TRC, and as I said in other threads, I adore the new directions in music. I think Prince is a better musician now, he plays better and composes better.
But what about inspiration? Maybe "Sign O' The times" was easier to play, but you can find there a lot of incredible tunes, a lot of very inspired lyrics, a good performance. TRC is all about the same (in the lyrics part), and the tunes are good but if we compare the studio version of "The everlasting now" doesn't give us anything new that we didn't see in "U got the look", for e.g. Or what about "She loves me for me"? It'a pop ballad, but not like "i could never take the place of your man". I prefer "sign o the times" more than "mellow mellow", or "the ballad of Dorothy Parker" more than "muse 2 the paraoh", or "strange relationship" more than "the work", or "if i was your girlfriend" more than "everywhere"...

I think that then Prince was a better "tuner" and he composed cooler songs.
But it's true he is now a better musician and I love to see him looking for something new,
and of course
PLAYING JAZZZ!!!
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/03 7:03am

seanski

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JavierAlcalde said:

I love TRC, and as I said in other threads, I adore the new directions in music. I think Prince is a better musician now, he plays better and composes better.
But what about inspiration? Maybe "Sign O' The times" was easier to play, but you can find there a lot of incredible tunes, a lot of very inspired lyrics, a good performance. TRC is all about the same (in the lyrics part), and the tunes are good but if we compare the studio version of "The everlasting now" doesn't give us anything new that we didn't see in "U got the look", for e.g. Or what about "She loves me for me"? It'a pop ballad, but not like "i could never take the place of your man". I prefer "sign o the times" more than "mellow mellow", or "the ballad of Dorothy Parker" more than "muse 2 the paraoh", or "strange relationship" more than "the work", or "if i was your girlfriend" more than "everywhere"...

I think that then Prince was a better "tuner" and he composed cooler songs.
But it's true he is now a better musician and I love to see him looking for something new,
and of course
PLAYING JAZZZ!!!


I've been listening to SOTT and Lovesexy since they where released, but I don't know when the last time i listened to TRC! I just don't find it that intresting like SOTT and Lovesexy.
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Reply #11 posted 10/25/03 7:11am

JavierAlcalde

I've been listening to SOTT and Lovesexy since they where released, but I don't know when the last time i listened to TRC! I just don't find it that intresting like SOTT and Lovesexy.[/quote]


I agree with you. I listen "SOTT" every time I can, and I don't do the same with TRC, but I like it.
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Reply #12 posted 10/25/03 8:31am

antoon

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thebanishedone said:

rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.



I wonder what that sounds like... confuse
555-4444 you're on coffee talk.
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/03 8:45am

TheBluePrince

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I agree, Like LoveBizarre, that it's his best 'Musical' album. I may like a few others better, like SOTT. Yet like we all know, it's hard to pick our favorite Prince album or song (so many treats to pick from smile) TRC is my favorite album as far as strictly the music, but N.E.W.S. is surely etching it's niche in that category as well. <--- Yeah I said it!

Blue smile
"Come on out here Rhonda"
Blue music
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/03 8:48am

Cloudbuster

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antoon said:

thebanishedone said:

rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.



I wonder what that sounds like... confuse


I wonder also. The worms around my area are all mute. shrug
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/03 9:08am

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SOTT and Lovesexy have more personality and mystery than TRC. Like others said, I listen to SOTT and Lovesexy all the time, but I rarely listen to TRC. It just doesn't have that same exciting feel when you listen to it.
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Reply #16 posted 10/25/03 10:06am

DOROTHYPARK

It's a good thing we all have the same taste! no no no!
Just think of it, how awefull it would be if everyone liked a diferent Prince album. hmph! OH NO! that would be so damn awefull, wouldn't it?! bow
I agree!!! We all should think alike, so let's put up a list of things to like and dislike, in the right order for EVERYONE. wink
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/03 12:48pm

danielboon

thebanishedone said:

there are a fair amount of people
here on prince org. that still think how ,
the best prince albums are lovesexy and sign o the times.
well that's not true,
rainbow children is the best .

1)all guitar solos on sign o the times(with an exception of "i could never take the place" )
and lovesexy(with exception of anna stasia) are improvised.

on the rainbow children album all guitar solos (except family name ending solo) are thematic guitar solos with begging,middle end end.

2)all the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy(except dance on) have standard 4/4 time beat.
rainbow children have variations in the rhytmic depatment,take everywhere as an example.


3)some of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy sound outdated because of the drumm programing,while rainbow children cd will 4ever sound fresh and worm.


4)many of the songs on sign o the times and lovesexy have simple chord proggresion,with only 2 chords(the cross) or 3 or 4 chords(lie anna stasia,i could never take the place of your man.)
and chord progresion ,
is predictable on most the songs,
while they arrangmants make 'em work of genios.
but on the other side,rainbow children cd contain songs with unpredictable chord progression
and you never know what next will happen' on those songs.
also he used many unis lines(when all the instruments play the same line.)examples are family name,last december,the work.

some people here complain about wedding feast.that songwas meant to be only a joke.
for me starfish and coffie is children song.

so those are the facts,rainbow children is musicly the best prince album the one real musician fans of prince always wanted and belived that prince could make.
amen


hello !,is there anybody home ?

trc is a great album it really is ,but come on !!! it aint no lovesexy or sott, get real mate !
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/03 2:14pm

ThePrettyman

Truly all stand alone albums that represented what they did 4 there respected eras. 2 compare is 2 lose all sight~
different times and frame of minds...experiences inspirations, ideas. Not 2 leave what he felt from deep within his spirit...

All that stuff is 4 the critics, who missed the boat along time ago.

Who R we 2 compare another mans art?
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/03 2:28pm

Moonbeam

I'll give you one reason TRC can't touch SOTT or Lovsexy.

Mellow barf
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/03 4:20pm

NCC2012

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I've listened to TRC maybe 5 times since getting it. I've really tried to get it to grow on me, but I just can't do it. It was much easier with previous recordings. Heck, even NPS grew on me for a little while! smile
NCC2012... your local Trekkie. =/\=
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/03 5:35pm

jolajeph

thebanishedone said:

for me starfish and coffie is children song.

so those are the facts,rainbow children is musicly the best prince album the one real musician fans of prince always wanted and belived that prince could make.
amen


Ok, first of all I do not think Lovesexy or SOTT are Prince's best work & I don't think that TRC is either but...

Starfish & Coffee is beautiful in it's simplicity, which makes it child like, not childish!

Are you saying that REAL MUSICIAN FANS believe that Prince had not done enough until TRC was released, please!

Also, think about the time that has passed since the release of Lovesexy/SOTT & TRC, really think!
[This message was edited Sat Oct 25 17:40:23 PDT 2003 by jolajeph]
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/03 7:33pm

scififilmnerd

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These "TRC is the best thing since the dawn of mankind" threads are getting really old really fast. bored

I mean bored
rainbow woot! FREE THE 29 MAY 1993 COME CONFIGURATION! woot! rainbow
rainbow woot! FREE THE JANUARY 1994 THE GOLD ALBUM CONFIGURATION woot! rainbow
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Reply #23 posted 10/25/03 7:42pm

jn2

err
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/03 9:03pm

whodknee

Sign O' The Times was a safe album of nice pop songs. I loved it 8 years ago but now I have an appreciation for good musicianship. I still like SOTT but I only listen to it every once in a while.

It's funny some are comparing TRC to SOTT and Lovesexy, neither of which are favorites of mine. It just goes to show that everybody has their own tastes-- that's a good thing.
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/03 9:31pm

Lammastide

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Great breakdown, thebanishedone.

I guess this pretty well illustrates the underlying dichotomy between the Prince of yesteryear and the Prince of today: The former was a spontaneous creative rogue; the latter is a measured, thinking composer.

I totally appreciate the merits of sophisticated arrangements and I respect where Prince has arrived, but sometimes sheer funk, instinct and ethos are more effective, I think.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #26 posted 10/26/03 12:42am

csharp57

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Take that damn Feast song off TRC and its a classic!!!
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Reply #27 posted 10/26/03 1:28am

danielboon

agreed, how could u ever give a friend trc 2 listen 2! they would piss emselfs laffin and hava feast slaughtering u !!!
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Reply #28 posted 10/26/03 6:33am

JC

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csharp57 said:

Take that damn Feast song off TRC and its a classic!!!


y'ur
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whoz
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Reply #29 posted 10/26/03 6:53am

gooeythehamste
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scififilmnerd said:

bored


Aw, yer tired.

Here, rest yer head in my lap...
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