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Reply #30 posted 10/21/03 2:42pm

DavidEye

I don't believe for one moment that Prince is really "retiring" his old hits.
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Reply #31 posted 10/21/03 3:07pm

sumtymes

prince may never recapture the energy of

performing purplerain songs live

as he did in the 80's

however, no one can

u had 2 be there

i think it's awesome 2 see prince

perform, period

the real experience happens live

he gives off such a powerful aura

some say prince could just walk out

on stage, never sing a note

and they would be blown away by him

he's just that cool


i'm diggin them threads he's sportin
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Reply #32 posted 10/21/03 3:15pm

Anxiety

I think that clip was indeed "minus something". I've seen far worse out of him, but this clip just looked like all the spontaneity and fun had been wrung out of the song and he was just phoning it in. But keep in mind: Prince phoning in a performance tends to be better than most musicians at their very best.
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Reply #33 posted 10/21/03 3:26pm

Neversin

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superfunki said:

How could you say that strange relationship with that band was awful and cringeworthy?
That was some real funky shit.

Well sorry but I don't think his band is all that funky, they have their moments, but they are rare...
This band just seems more jazz oriented...
"Strange Relationship" back in 1987, now THAT was some really funky shit played by a real funky band...
And to be quite honest I don't think all these old hits have a real impact anymore, only to the casual concertgoers who have never seen him perform...
I'd like to see him do some old songs he's hardly played, he's got tons of 'em... I'd even tolerate some new twists on older songs...
But I think a Prince concert nowadays isn't targeted at the hardcore Prince fan, just the aftershows cos there he still really rips it up (whenever Larry's not around that is)...
That's what I also liked back in 1994/1995 he just did gigs with not yet released material that only the hardcore knew from boots or whatever, I remember after some of those shows that some casual Prince fans were really pissed he didn't play "the hits" like "Purple Rain" and even label those shows as some of the worst Prince concerts in his career, while the hardcore fans were all psyched and content while humming "Days O' Wild" on their way to the aftershow...

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Reply #34 posted 10/21/03 3:28pm

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just2bnasty

Neversin said:

I'd even tolerate some new twists on older songs...


oh, well, that's mighty generous of you rolleyes
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Reply #35 posted 10/21/03 3:30pm

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Romance1600 said:

I was just watching the Baby I'm A Star footage from the latest show, and it occured to me that it was slightly 'tacky' - somehow it felt like a bit of a naff thing to do, perform your old hits with this new band.

Sure he's always done it, I've been there, many times - but as I watched the clip, I just thought it was a bit tacky - you know like when Larry Graham performs the Sly hits.

Maybe it's that drum sample sound that sounds a bit odd to me live, but with all those great players on stage who can do the more musically interesting "jazz" stuff of Xpectation and TRC - it seems a bit of a sell-out to be having them do Baby I'm A Star.

Hmmm


I wouldn't be erked if Wendy & Lisa played old Revolution songs...Never bothered me that Larry played Family Stone songs. He was there with the band, he helped write them...if there your songs y not
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Reply #36 posted 10/21/03 4:16pm

Bsunshine

What are you high? Prince shouldn't be able to play his old songs because there are others that may have performed on them besides him? I don't know if you realize this but most of the stuff on Prince's records was recorded BY HIM ... ALONE! That said, should he do every show as a solo act?

Should Paul McCartney not play any Beatles tunes because the other three aren't on stage with him? Should Sting avoid all Police tunes because he is solo? Should Adam Ant avoid doing Adam & the Ant songs? Should Paul Simon not do Simon & Garfunkle songs? Should David Bowie not perform Ziggy Stardust songs without the "spiders from Mars"? You get the picture.

Of course not. They are his songs and he can perform them whenever he wants. To limit a performer from performing his songs is just wrong. They are his children. If he wants to bring them out to play with us, enjoy it.

Now pipe down! I'm trying to enjoy the show.
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Reply #37 posted 10/21/03 4:36pm

charlottegelin

I can't view the clip and can't be bothered to update the software, but I was there last night, and I don't know what you are all talking about! To me he looked fresh and his performance was effortless.

Doing the hits in Australia is an extremely intelligent move, he wouln't get away with anything else here, despite 10% of the audience who might like something different. People stood up (and seats were provided for all 10,000 of them) and they danced for 2.5 hours and that has never happened before at this venue. It was an awesome performance and I doubt there were many complaints.
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Reply #38 posted 10/21/03 4:46pm

SquirrelMeat

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Damn! I know everyones gotta get old, but he's taking the Little Richard route to retirement!!

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Reply #39 posted 10/21/03 4:53pm

charlottegelin

Does Little Richard wear tight white leggings and furry moon boots too?
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Reply #40 posted 10/21/03 5:08pm

danielboon

charlottegelin said:

I can't view the clip and can't be bothered to update the software, but I was there last night, and I don't know what you are all talking about! To me he looked fresh and his performance was effortless.

Doing the hits in Australia is an extremely intelligent move, he wouln't get away with anything else here, despite 10% of the audience who might like something different. People stood up (and seats were provided for all 10,000 of them) and they danced for 2.5 hours and that has never happened before at this venue. It was an awesome performance and I doubt there were many complaints.


good 4 u mate !glad it went well and u enjoyed it !

dont b surprised if sum1 who was'nt there gives u stick and say's that p playin the hits is shit cos "they viewed the clip" (and... they arent even in ur country !)

it'll happen watch this space
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Reply #41 posted 10/21/03 5:10pm

Romance1600

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Bsunshine said:

What are you high? Prince shouldn't be able to play his old songs because there are others that may have performed on them besides him? I don't know if you realize this but most of the stuff on Prince's records was recorded BY HIM ... ALONE! That said, should he do every show as a solo act?

Should Paul McCartney not play any Beatles tunes because the other three aren't on stage with him? Should Sting avoid all Police tunes because he is solo? Should Adam Ant avoid doing Adam & the Ant songs? Should Paul Simon not do Simon & Garfunkle songs? Should David Bowie not perform Ziggy Stardust songs without the "spiders from Mars"? You get the picture.

Of course not. They are his songs and he can perform them whenever he wants. To limit a performer from performing his songs is just wrong. They are his children. If he wants to bring them out to play with us, enjoy it.

Now pipe down! I'm trying to enjoy the show.


Calm down love, you might be the one who's high.

I'm just throwing this stuff out there for an opinion, thanks for yours, but no thanks for the OTT judgementation.
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Reply #42 posted 10/21/03 6:01pm

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Most of the people on this site are fuckin' morons, they blast a two minute clip from a website. A clip that you can barely see with terrible sound quality and you all make an assumption about an entire show from this. I swear this reminds me of the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back when they talk about the expert-idiots(oxymoron) that over analyze EVERYTHING on internet message boards. Some of you are so sad that your behavior has gone past funny and returned to sad again. The funny thing is a shitty performance from Prince is 100,000,000 times better than anything us internet performers could ever hope to accomplish. Quick question, for those that consider Prince a has been, how do u feel the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Sting, U2 etc. etc.?

I'm just trying to figure out how you can gather so much information from a two minute clip of a two hour show?
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Reply #43 posted 10/21/03 6:07pm

chookalana

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How is it any different than playing the same songs with any of his other bands?

You people are never happy. Bitch, moan, and complain. Find a new hobby.

Stupid. You just need something to complain about.If it's the Revolution you want, keep waiting. It ain't gonna happen.
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Reply #44 posted 10/21/03 6:08pm

namepeace

Most great musicians have performed standards with subsequent bands. You don't have to like them, but it's by no means tacky.

What's he supposed to do, not perform "Baby I'm A Star unless and until the Revolution returns . . .

well . . . wait a minute . . .

that's not a bad idea!

smile
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Reply #45 posted 10/21/03 6:13pm

marcdeondotcom

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Most of the people on this site are fuckin' morons, they blast a two minute clip from a website. A clip that you can barely see with terrible sound quality and you all make an assumption about an entire show from this. I swear this reminds me of the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back when they talk about the expert-idiots(oxymoron) that over analyze EVERYTHING on internet message boards. Some of you are so sad that your behavior has gone past funny and returned to sad again. The funny thing is a shitty performance from Prince is 100,000,000 times better than anything us internet performers could ever hope to accomplish. Quick question, for those that consider Prince a has been, how do u feel the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Sting, U2 etc. etc.?

I'm just trying to figure out how you can gather so much information from a two minute clip of a two hour show?


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Reply #46 posted 10/21/03 6:16pm

nunatak

Sounds good and I am sure these shows are kicking ass - great band, great songs; the facts!
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Reply #47 posted 10/21/03 6:34pm

charlottegelin

These songs are just made for singing live, they just go OFF!
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Reply #48 posted 10/21/03 7:52pm

Bsunshine

Romance1600 said:

Bsunshine said:

What are you high? Prince shouldn't be able to play his old songs because there are others that may have performed on them besides him? I don't know if you realize this but most of the stuff on Prince's records was recorded BY HIM ... ALONE! That said, should he do every show as a solo act?

Should Paul McCartney not play any Beatles tunes because the other three aren't on stage with him? Should Sting avoid all Police tunes because he is solo? Should Adam Ant avoid doing Adam & the Ant songs? Should Paul Simon not do Simon & Garfunkle songs? Should David Bowie not perform Ziggy Stardust songs without the "spiders from Mars"? You get the picture.

Of course not. They are his songs and he can perform them whenever he wants. To limit a performer from performing his songs is just wrong. They are his children. If he wants to bring them out to play with us, enjoy it.

Now pipe down! I'm trying to enjoy the show.


Calm down love, you might be the one who's high.

I'm just throwing this stuff out there for an opinion, thanks for yours, but no thanks for the OTT judgementation.


Glad I could set you straight babydoll. Sorry to be so harsh but it sounded like you needed a steaming bowl of reality served up Beckystyle!

Sorry it sounded like I was rubbing your nose in it. I didn't mean to do that. I only wanted to show you how logically your "tacky" comment didn't hold water. Hope I wasn't too harsh in my opinion. I get like that sometimes.
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Reply #49 posted 10/21/03 10:46pm

madhouseman

Bsunshine said:

Romance1600 said:

Bsunshine said:

What are you high? Prince shouldn't be able to play his old songs because there are others that may have performed on them besides him? I don't know if you realize this but most of the stuff on Prince's records was recorded BY HIM ... ALONE! That said, should he do every show as a solo act?

Should Paul McCartney not play any Beatles tunes because the other three aren't on stage with him? Should Sting avoid all Police tunes because he is solo? Should Adam Ant avoid doing Adam & the Ant songs? Should Paul Simon not do Simon & Garfunkle songs? Should David Bowie not perform Ziggy Stardust songs without the "spiders from Mars"? You get the picture.

Of course not. They are his songs and he can perform them whenever he wants. To limit a performer from performing his songs is just wrong. They are his children. If he wants to bring them out to play with us, enjoy it.

Now pipe down! I'm trying to enjoy the show.


Calm down love, you might be the one who's high.

I'm just throwing this stuff out there for an opinion, thanks for yours, but no thanks for the OTT judgementation.


Glad I could set you straight babydoll. Sorry to be so harsh but it sounded like you needed a steaming bowl of reality served up Beckystyle!

Sorry it sounded like I was rubbing your nose in it. I didn't mean to do that. I only wanted to show you how logically your "tacky" comment didn't hold water. Hope I wasn't too harsh in my opinion. I get like that sometimes.



hahahaha. While I agree with you, and I'm sure most of the readers do too, that post took balls and from the look of your picture, you don't... well never mind.
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Reply #50 posted 10/21/03 11:08pm

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Some of you silly people on this site need to get a life. You complain about the current tour and then some complain about the previous tour. Well what is it that some of you want? Certain jackasses probably don't know themselves. If you don't like what Prince is doing now then play what you do enjoy and let that be that!!
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Reply #51 posted 10/21/03 11:40pm

mrdespues

eldog98 said:

Some of you silly people on this site need to get a life. You complain about the current tour and then some complain about the previous tour. Well what is it that some of you want? Certain jackasses probably don't know themselves. If you don't like what Prince is doing now then play what you do enjoy and let that be that!!


yes. there are sad bastards aplenty posting lately.



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Reply #52 posted 10/22/03 1:51am

danielboon

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Most of the people on this site are fuckin' morons, they blast a two minute clip from a website. A clip that you can barely see with terrible sound quality and you all make an assumption about an entire show from this. I swear this reminds me of the movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back when they talk about the expert-idiots(oxymoron) that over analyze EVERYTHING on internet message boards. Some of you are so sad that your behavior has gone past funny and returned to sad again. The funny thing is a shitty performance from Prince is 100,000,000 times better than anything us internet performers could ever hope to accomplish. Quick question, for those that consider Prince a has been, how do u feel the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Sting, U2 etc. etc.?

I'm just trying to figure out how you can gather so much information from a two minute clip of a two hour show?



xlent reply !!!

u r bang on ! a 2 minute clip and some orgers .. put the boot in !!! total nonsense !!!
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Reply #53 posted 10/22/03 2:43am

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Well, after seeing him in HK I can tell you the man is fresh and funky. The performance was fantastic!

I do wonder though about how the band feels. His current lineup consists of top class musicians and I doubt they'd stick around if all they ever did was play hits. However, I bet they get their chance to let loose in the aftershows and all of the private jamming they do.
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Reply #54 posted 10/22/03 6:07am

kisscamille

sabaisabai said:

Well, after seeing him in HK I can tell you the man is fresh and funky. The performance was fantastic!

I do wonder though about how the band feels. His current lineup consists of top class musicians and I doubt they'd stick around if all they ever did was play hits. However, I bet they get their chance to let loose in the aftershows and all of the private jamming they do.


I have no doubt that Prince was fresh and funky. He always is and never disappoints his fans in concert.
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Reply #55 posted 10/22/03 6:38am

softandwet

well i hear live performances from 1990 of take me with u and at first i was like what the fuck is that cheesy bouncy bass, the same on alphabet street etc. but then i got into it and its different and i think its the same with that baby im a star clip. theres no doubt he was enjoying it, or acting well. i dont think he was shortchanging the fans.

it just sounded different and if hes playing a hits tour i think its amazing he does that so perhaps older fans can enjoy it more!
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Reply #56 posted 10/22/03 6:44am

bananacologne

Neversin said:

superfunki said:

How could you say that strange relationship with that band was awful and cringeworthy?
That was some real funky shit.

Well sorry but I don't think his band is all that funky, they have their moments, but they are rare...
This band just seems more jazz oriented...
"Strange Relationship" back in 1987, now THAT was some really funky shit played by a real funky band...
And to be quite honest I don't think all these old hits have a real impact anymore, only to the casual concertgoers who have never seen him perform...
I'd like to see him do some old songs he's hardly played, he's got tons of 'em... I'd even tolerate some new twists on older songs...
But I think a Prince concert nowadays isn't targeted at the hardcore Prince fan, just the aftershows cos there he still really rips it up (whenever Larry's not around that is)...
That's what I also liked back in 1994/1995 he just did gigs with not yet released material that only the hardcore knew from boots or whatever, I remember after some of those shows that some casual Prince fans were really pissed he didn't play "the hits" like "Purple Rain" and even label those shows as some of the worst Prince concerts in his career, while the hardcore fans were all psyched and content while humming "Days O' Wild" on their way to the aftershow...

Neversin.


I think Neversin and AnX are right on the money here, but we shouldnt lose sight of the fact that the set He is playing in Oceania is tailored 4 these guys who havent seen him in over 10 years, and they no doubt would LIKE 2 hear these songs that we have been spoilt with all these years. That's worth keeping in mind.

This band aint funky, they are jazzy. There's a difference.
It doesnt neccesarily make them bad either.

It does make me wonder why he wont (or rather: hasnt) pulled out some songs from his vast back catalogue that have rarely been played live before, or that fans would no doubt love 2 hear - even on previous tours.

At the end of the day, what counts is that the fans down-under are having a blast right now, and that is something special not 2 be griped at. So far, all I hear is positive feedback, and that's a good thing.

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Reply #57 posted 10/22/03 6:51am

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Romance1600 said:

Bsunshine said:

What are you high? Prince shouldn't be able to play his old songs because there are others that may have performed on them besides him? I don't know if you realize this but most of the stuff on Prince's records was recorded BY HIM ... ALONE! That said, should he do every show as a solo act?

Should Paul McCartney not play any Beatles tunes because the other three aren't on stage with him? Should Sting avoid all Police tunes because he is solo? Should Adam Ant avoid doing Adam & the Ant songs? Should Paul Simon not do Simon & Garfunkle songs? Should David Bowie not perform Ziggy Stardust songs without the "spiders from Mars"? You get the picture.

Of course not. They are his songs and he can perform them whenever he wants. To limit a performer from performing his songs is just wrong. They are his children. If he wants to bring them out to play with us, enjoy it.

Now pipe down! I'm trying to enjoy the show.


Calm down love, you might be the one who's high.

I'm just throwing this stuff out there for an opinion, thanks for yours, but no thanks for the OTT judgementation.

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Reply #58 posted 10/22/03 6:54am

summerdawn

danielboon said:

summerdawn said:

kisscamille said:

It's funny how we all see things differently. I have NEVER in my life thought that Prince looked uncomfortable on stage. Granted, I have only seen him live 4 times, but I've seen numerous tv shows, concert footage etc. and IMO he always looks right at home. Being a fan for over 20 years, I personally don't want to see him do a show of his old hits, I would much rather see him do new music, but I still believe he should play whatever he wants and if that includes purple rain, let's go crazy even 1999, so be it. As far as a being a "has been",that's just plain silly. He's a pure musical genius and doesn't need a hit song on the radio.


a question: have you seen the clip? if so, what did you think?

i agree that prince is a musical genius...maybe he was just off for 5 minutes. shrug


the clip looked real ropey, i'll give u that,bad choice of song me think's , p + baby im a star = the splits , he mayb 2 old 4 that shit now , so retire baby i'm a star ! the hits that were played on last years tour in europe were fine with the new band !

just a bad choice of song 4 a middle aged gentleman ???

i was just pointing out earlier that he cant pls everyone !

summerdawn pull yo head out yo asss baby !!!




Me pull my head out of my ass??? hmm Apparantley you didn't even come close to getting the point of what I was even trying to say to kisscamille (please note I wasn't even responding to you).

and where did i ever say it was a bad choice of song?

BUT, we get your point. you disagree with the initial question.

hope you have a more peaceful day, my friend.
chill pill


as far as banancologne's previous statement, i agree totally. "This band aint funky, they are jazzy. There's a difference.".

The fans in Australia loved it and that's the only thing that matters. Now when he makes it here to the US, we'll judge for ourselves when we've had the chance to see the whole thing.
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Reply #59 posted 10/22/03 10:49am

danielboon

summerdawn said:

danielboon said:

summerdawn said:

kisscamille said:

It's funny how we all see things differently. I have NEVER in my life thought that Prince looked uncomfortable on stage. Granted, I have only seen him live 4 times, but I've seen numerous tv shows, concert footage etc. and IMO he always looks right at home. Being a fan for over 20 years, I personally don't want to see him do a show of his old hits, I would much rather see him do new music, but I still believe he should play whatever he wants and if that includes purple rain, let's go crazy even 1999, so be it. As far as a being a "has been",that's just plain silly. He's a pure musical genius and doesn't need a hit song on the radio.


a question: have you seen the clip? if so, what did you think?

i agree that prince is a musical genius...maybe he was just off for 5 minutes. shrug


the clip looked real ropey, i'll give u that,bad choice of song me think's , p + baby im a star = the splits , he mayb 2 old 4 that shit now , so retire baby i'm a star ! the hits that were played on last years tour in europe were fine with the new band !

just a bad choice of song 4 a middle aged gentleman ???

i was just pointing out earlier that he cant pls everyone !

summerdawn pull yo head out yo asss baby !!!




Me pull my head out of my ass??? hmm Apparantley you didn't even come close to getting the point of what I was even trying to say to kisscamille (please note I wasn't even responding to you).

and where did i ever say it was a bad choice of song?

BUT, we get your point. you disagree with the initial question.

hope you have a more peaceful day, my friend.
chill pill


as far as banancologne's previous statement, i agree totally. "This band aint funky, they are jazzy. There's a difference.".

The fans in Australia loved it and that's the only thing that matters. Now when he makes it here to the US, we'll judge for ourselves when we've had the chance to see the whole thing.


just a noise up from davey crockket !!!
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