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PrintableI really don´t know what you mean when you say he´s lost the funk, all I know is that he´s still making good music, just check out Xpectation or NEWS  | |
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whateverCPH said: Then please enlighten me, oh master of Funk... Teach and let me drink from the source of your eternal wisdom on the subject...  Sarcasm is not gonna get you anywhere. Either you care to learn about Funk, or you dont. But claiming that Prince has lost the funk when in reality he is finally gettin funky, is ridiculous. Unfortunatley you have failed to answer my question what funk is in YOUR opinion. Obviously you dont know... "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany"  | |
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soulpower said: whateverCPH said: Then please enlighten me, oh master of Funk... Teach and let me drink from the source of your eternal wisdom on the subject... Sarcasm is not gonna get you anywhere. Either you care to learn about Funk, or you dont. But claiming that Prince has lost the funk when in reality he is finally gettin funky, is ridiculous. Unfortunatley you have failed to answer my question what funk is in YOUR opinion. Obviously you dont know... In my humble - and uneducated opinon - funk is to be found on every pore of, say, Sign of the Times (the album) ... After that (87) .. there has only been sporadic outbursts of funk from Mr. Nelson. There have even been catasthrophic outbursts such as Graffiti Bridge which - in my book - has "minus funk" written all over it. Funk - and taste in arts in general - is an individual experience which cannot be held to an absolute term of measurement, and therefore your view on Mr. Nelson's current state of funkiness is as valid as mine... Just my 2 cents... Peace | |
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whateverCPH said: In my humble - and uneducated opinon - funk is to be found on every pore of, say, Sign of the Times (the album) ... After that (87) .. there has only been sporadic outbursts of funk from Mr. Nelson. There have even been catasthrophic outbursts such as Graffiti Bridge which - in my book - has "minus funk" written all over it. I agree with you to the point that SOTT is one of Prince`s (few) highlights in funk, allthough overall its a pop album. The only truly funky moments are the title song, "Housequake", "TBODP", "Hot Thing" and "Its gonna be a ...". Thats far from "every pore" as you name it. Graffiti Bridge, techincally, has more Funk to offer than SOTT, although its a pretty terrible example of funk. Same counts for the "Exodus" album which is full of funk, and "New Power Soul". A great example is the tune "Come". Just because you dont like these songs, it doesnt mean that they are not incredibly funky. Funk - and taste in arts in general - is an individual experience which cannot be held to an absolute term of measurement, and therefore your view on Mr. Nelson's current state of funkiness is as valid as mine... Just my 2 cents... Peace Not true. You indeed can measure funk quite well, better than Jazz for example. One requirement is the typical hit on the first and third chord of every bar, which was established in the 1950s by some Jazz players as Horace Silver and Art Blakey. The overall live feel is important to Funk ... you need a real bass and a solid drummer. Most "close-to-funk"-tunes Prince has recorded in the past dont have that, he mainly uses the LINN drum computer, which kills every true attempt to be funky. Today he uses a tight live band even on record, and the funk sound is very clear. Typical funk tunes are all upbeat numbers by James Brown, such as "Papa`s got a brandnew bag" (an early truly funky song), "Sex Machine", "Licking Stick" and "Payback". Good examples for Prince`s funkier moments are "Everlasting now", "The work P.1", "Lets work", "Sexual Suicide", "1+1+1=3" and "Housequake". "News" does have some very funky moments as well. One thing you definetely cant do with the Funk is claiming that its a subjective thing. Then you could label anything you like as funk, but it doesnt work that way. "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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Not sure we have the same denotation to "Funk" ...  | |
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whateverCPH said: Not sure we have the same denotation to "Funk" ...
Well, I cant help you if make one up for yourself... thats cool, but it sure isnt reality.  "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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sabaisabai said: Mr. Nelson made a good point in his latest tour book.
If music inspires a person, then one day that music doesn't inspire that person anymore then what has changed? Has the music lost the inspiration or has the listener? If the music is good the listener shouldnt have to struggle to be inspired by it. It's the responsibility of an artist to make sure he connects with people - in the centre of who they are. If he shoots too far left because he'd like to be self-indulgent for a moment - and the listener cant follow - that's the artist's problem. If he plays too many notes and shoots straight over the top of the listeners head - then he's missed the point of what music is for : THE LISTENER. Self-indulgent artists are not necessarily a bad thing - but if they're audience drops to 5 they shouldnt be surprised. An artist who - after years of proclaiming "I will do what I want" has 'suddenly' decided to take the stage and give his public what THEY want. THAT IS WHY HE IS FUNKIER NOW THAN HE WAS 4 MONTHS AGO. LEAN UP AGAINST THE WALL OF A KINGDOM HALL FOR TOO LONG AND U START TO FALL ASLEEP. WHO WOULDNT. WHAT WOKE HIM UP ? < IS MY QUESTION ... *Most members of the general public who are not musicians but love music want to hear music they can understand, that is simple and that moves them. If an artist won't give them that - then they are not an artist - they are an egotist. PB www.pbphonehome.com http://www.pbphonehome.co...loads.html " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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whateverCPH said: I have absolutely no idea... Anyone?
 How can anyone say this after hearing 1+1+1 is 3 live? Or The Everlasting Now? | |
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soulpower said: whateverCPH said: Not sure we have the same denotation to "Funk" ...
Well, I cant help you if make one up for yourself... thats cool, but it sure isnt reality. Ahhh "reality"!! dont get me started on that philosophical dead end... | |
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soulpower said: Name me more phase in Prince?s career which was more funky... he had some funky shit out on "Exodus" (the instrumental cut "New Power Soul" is deep fried funk)
a-ha, deep fried funk! Bad for the arteries, likely to encourage all sorts of cancers, etc. Lots prefer raw funk nowadays. Deep frying is bad. | |
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cynicalbastard said: soulpower said: Name me more phase in Prince?s career which was more funky... he had some funky shit out on "Exodus" (the instrumental cut "New Power Soul" is deep fried funk)
a-ha, deep fried funk! Bad for the arteries, likely to encourage all sorts of cancers, etc. Lots prefer raw funk nowadays. Deep frying is bad. His name is Prince... and he is funky. | |
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soulpower said: you need a real bass and a solid drummer.
So "1999" isn't funk?  I think that's his funkiest album bar none. But again, that's just me. | |
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Moonbeam said: soulpower said: you need a real bass and a solid drummer.
So "1999" isn't funk? I think that's his funkiest album bar none. But again, that's just me. There are some great funk tunes on "1999"... "DMSR" (which sounds better live though, the drum computer just kills it on record) and definetely "Lady Cab Driver", which is about one of the greatest funk tunes he has ever recorded. But thats about it. "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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