do you REALLY think it will be a hit? cos i heard that andre 3000's hey ya is doing really well on MTV's TRL in the states and unless prince's song makes you sit up and think wow like that song does, i cant imagine this comeback being what everyone wants it to be. its got to make people crap their pants and say that 'wow, prince is back' (as someone in the other post said). or at the least, get some rave reviews like david bowie and bob dylan's last few albums - he really needs to come with something that commands people's respect this time (and not just the die hards).
[This message was edited Mon Oct 13 4:46:52 PDT 2003 by thirstinhowlVIII]

it's sure to go straight to number 1

Ain't no hit unfortunately

Oscar Gomez summed it up fairly well: a combination of "the work" and "rock'n roll is alive..."

These are two nice, fine, songs but which completely lack originality. Nothing that will make anyone forget about Andre3000...

This song has (once again) a production problem and sounds somewhat out-dated

Let's face it: Prince should stick to his new output and sound (TRC, NEWS) which, even they are not groundbreaking, at least sound like nothing else at the moment and are quite enjoyable. He is dead as to mainstream music, except if he let someone else produce him, but this will never happen because of his ego problem. Enjoy The Love Below and leave the former Minneapolis Kid behind...

DrD said:

well lets be honest, andre has stolen not only half of princes musical ideas, but half his personality too! hes just done it in a fresh/innovative way. princes attempts at commercial albums have been average at best recently, i hope hes not going to be trying too hard again like with rave, etc. if prince just recorded a song in a standard way, with a group of his musicians, or even with him doing all the parts but LIVE, it would probably sound better than him trying to sound up to date and state of the art. his programming has been lacking for a long time. i wouldnt mind even if he just did some retro rock, he needs to stop trying to appeal to the kids.

DrD said:

Yes Absolutely Right with U > I don't Understand why Prince chooses this kind of song 4 a Supposed Come Back > A song a la Let's go crazy or Little red corvette would B appropriate!!! >> I only wish that Musicology song is Not REPRESENTATIVE of his Next Album>>If HE IS...So...this will be the come Back of Bad choises as USUAL!!

Yes Absolutely Right with U > I don't Understand why Prince chooses this kind of song 4 a Supposed Come Back > A song a la Let's go crazy or Little red corvette would B appropriate!!! >> I only wish that Musicology song is Not REPRESENTATIVE of his Next Album>>If HE IS...So...this will be the come Back of Bad choises as USUAL!! [/quote]

please dont tell me musicology is a ballad again? it needs to be fast and uptempo.

thirstinhowlVIII said:

You got that from that? someone above said it was like a cross between "The Work" and "Rock & Roll Is Alive..." doesn't sound very ballady to me. Relax, it might be OK.

DrD said:

Oh dear.

Romance1600 said:

exactly. rnr is alive was ok, but the work, for a JB pastiche, is almost funkless. its way too lightweight. at best, its like something JB would have done in the late 50s early 60s.

DrD said:

That seems like a pretty fair description to me. Of course, I only heard the song once, and I wouldn't say that I didn't enjoy it...but it was high on the NPG cheese factor, no doubt. Not something I could see being a hit song, but what the fuck do I know?

DrD said:

Some are saying he needs to get Andre to produce him, others are saying Andre is stealing his style, some are saying he needs to give up the retro, while others are saying come back to basics.

Maybe we're just like his mother?

word had it, it was a reminiscent of All U Need is Love/Raspberry Beret. How the fuck did it go from that 2 rnr is alive/the work type of track. Someone is bs'n, i just hope that its more like the first comparison that I heard.

NuPwrSoul said:

ain't that the truth

NuPwrSoul said:

Maybe Andre and Prince could co-produce a post-modern retro back to basics style number while both wearing hot-pants, heels and purple overcoats.

KeithyT said:

Yes, yesss!!!

camille2002 said:

Well, the song I heard sounded nothing like All You Need Is Love or Raspberry Beret, and much more like Northside or (as has been mentioned before) a cross between The Work and Rock 'n Roll is Alive. Of course, I only heard it once.

Does anyone know if those "keep the party movin" vocal samples and other instrumental samples that were in the Musicology room at NPGMC from the song "Musicology"?

theblueangel said:

Northside, Rock 'n Roll is alive and The Work eh?

An unholy trinity if ever i there was one.

I'm not expecting anything special anyway theses days.

NuPwrSoul said:

Yes, they're from the version that was played at The Park in July, anyway.

NuPwrSoul said:

Once again some are never satisfied... Some think they can do better than him except that they don't try...

HE (not we) can do better than his JW clone, that's why we are disappointed!

After a number of sub-standard prince albums such as NPS or Rave, some fans seem to have forgotten that the same guy wrote crazy dance tracks like, say, Lady Cab Driver, Erotic City, Days of Wild, Pussy control...

Now THAT was innovative funk!

Quite frankly, and even if you like those songs (I do actually) does anyone really believe that Northside, Rock n'roll is alive or The Work qualifies as innovative funk ???

We want Prince the genius, not Prince the pretty cool old funk writter!!!

If Musicology sounds like RNRoll'...& The work or Northside>>So PRINCE IS REALLY DEAD!!

Does it sound anything like "U & Me" ??

if so, it will surely HIT the bargain
baskets within 2 weeks of it's release.

Tsss..if it really sounds like the Work or RnR is alive...it makes me think of an old dutch saying:

Een ezel stoot zich niet twee keer aan dezelfde steen.
A donkey doesnt hit himself two times on the same stone.

It seems Prince is trying to hit himself the tirth time with a desperate move to be commercial. Well let's hope it will totally flop...one year later Prince will say: i dont care and give us the same good things like TRC live...ONA..ONA live..NEWS...Xpectation...

So people..don't buy it...just let it be a total failure..it will be the best possible way of getting good music out later...(just imagine if NPG or Rave would have been hit albums..we would still got the same stuff out...thanx 2 god that that didnt happen)

101 said:

And when he makes a TRc quality album, people will still moan and groan... Besides I like Northside- it's a cool track...

101 said:

But neither The Work nor Rock & Roll Is Alive were a desperate move to be commercial (possibly The Work was, but not a little-heard B-side). I don't think your old dutch saying is relevant.

I guess a few of us, including me, are judging it before we've even heard it. Personally if the description is as stated then it would be a real shame. A song like WILMHOU would really have made people sit up and take notice again, it had that certain P thing all over it. Yet again it was a crap decison to let it fade away. Truly a lost gem that we lucky few got to hear. Lets just hope that the album is a good one. Just give us 9 or 10 killer tracks.

klaatu said:

I agree, I like Northside too. In fact, I prefer Northside
over TheWork. One of the worst lead off singles ever.

It was the weakest, lest representative song off TRC and
yet he pushed that one to Napster where 100,000 people
downloaded it and decided it was a piece of shit as would
the album be.

Totally wrong, fcuz, since the album was the best thing to
come out of the park for more than 5 years [omitting the
stellar "The Truth" even for a decade].


Emancipation would have taken off much sooner had FaceDown
been the lead off single. Even when the lable folded or
whatever, the album would have garnered much more attention
Instead he released Betcha By Golly Wow.

Ironically, the only really good single choice he made the
last decade was "Come On", from NPS. And even that went
nowhere.

From the reports, I don't expect "Musicology" to be better
than than "Come On" since it's one heck of a song with a lot
of hit potential. And yet, it went nowhere.

Perhaps it was due to the shitty video, but somehow I think
that a song that cool and funny would have to be a hit even
with a piece of shit video.

So perhaps people are right in assuming that Prince will
never have a hit single anymore with simply a good song or
a funky or a rockhard song.

It seems that to get people's attention again he will have
to come up with something incredible. Something that will
make people stop and go "who the fuck is this? and WHAT the
fuck is he playing??".

Cool vid, promo bandwagon, label backup, remasters hype,
purple rain anni celebration. Whatever.

It can be done, just not with an average tune and a look
that says "betcha I can recite more bible passages than
you".

About hits/comebacks/etc

I think the song Chaos & Disorder would have been a big hit if he made a cool video with:
-him singin (with band) in a church with a lot of fans (a bit like Lenny did on Are you gonna go my way)
-camcorder shots of LA (or another big city) corresponding to the things he is singing.

# Big joints - never got u higher

I've had this thought for years now... 1st time share though.

No really, listen to it!