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Reply #60 posted 10/16/03 3:04am

BinaryJustin

DavidEye said:

Hmmm,"Partyman" is another single that I have mixed feelings about.I like the song,but I wonder if "The Future" or "Trust" would have made better singles.


"The Future" was a single in the U.K.
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Reply #61 posted 10/16/03 3:07am

UptownDeb

I don't think it's the "worst" but I've never been crazy about "Gett Off."
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Reply #62 posted 10/16/03 4:32am

CrozzaUK

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"Betcha By Golly, Wow", "New Power Generation", "Dinner With Delores", "The Holy River".

All terrible choices...

I also think that Warners should have skipped releasing "Thunder" as a single in the U.K. and released "Insatiable" like in the U.S. I think that "Insatiable" would have done well on Urban radio stations here, whereas I don't remember "Thunder" being played anywhere!

How many more people would have bought Emancipation if he'd released the following as singles:

01) Sleep Around b/w Somebody's Somebody;
02) Soul Sanctuary b/w In This Bed Eye Scream;
03) The Love We Make b/w My Computer;
04) Friend, Sister, Lover, Mother/Wife b/w Face Down.


No Offence but those are some of the worst choices for singles ive ever seen. My skin would've crawled if hed released Sleep around as the first single. The Holy River was the only obvious choice for a single on the album. The rest of the stuff was mediocore. The Love We Make would've been okay, and Jam Of the Year might have worked, but the whole problem with Emancipation was that there wasn't enough stand out songs to make it work. There was a lot of good stuff on there, but none that would motivate me to buy it...except The Holy River.
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Reply #63 posted 10/16/03 4:49am

DavidEye

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Prince really did not choose his singles well after 1987 or so (exception being Diamonds and Pearls album). He has had a couple of potential hits on each album he's released (almost) and he's usually picked songs that are either mediocre or totally uncommercial...



Agreed.I think,beginning with the 'Parade' album,he began choosing wrong singles,in most cases.Songs like "Glam Slam","New Power Generation","If I Was Your Girlfriend" and "The Morning Papers" were poor choices for singles.But I don't know if it was him,or Warners who had the final say.
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Reply #64 posted 10/16/03 4:55am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

jtgillia said:

Prince really did not choose his singles well after 1987 or so (exception being Diamonds and Pearls album). He has had a couple of potential hits on each album he's released (almost) and he's usually picked songs that are either mediocre or totally uncommercial...



Agreed.I think,beginning with the 'Parade' album,he began choosing wrong singles,in most cases.Songs like "Glam Slam","New Power Generation","If I Was Your Girlfriend" and "The Morning Papers" were poor choices for singles.But I don't know if it was him,or Warners who had the final say.


If I was Your Girlfriend did okay in the UK getting to number 20. But he should've released HouseQuake in the US.
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Reply #65 posted 10/16/03 4:59am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

jtgillia said:

Prince really did not choose his singles well after 1987 or so (exception being Diamonds and Pearls album). He has had a couple of potential hits on each album he's released (almost) and he's usually picked songs that are either mediocre or totally uncommercial...



Agreed.I think,beginning with the 'Parade' album,he began choosing wrong singles,in most cases.Songs like "Glam Slam","New Power Generation","If I Was Your Girlfriend" and "The Morning Papers" were poor choices for singles.But I don't know if it was him,or Warners who had the final say.


If I was Your Girlfriend did okay in the UK getting to number 20. But he should've released HouseQuake in the US.



It did very poorly in the U.S.,peaking at Number 87 if I'm not mistaken (or was it 78?).Understandably,most radio stations were afraid to play it,and Prince didn't dare make a video for it...lol
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Reply #66 posted 10/16/03 5:00am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

It did very poorly in the U.S.,peaking at Number 87 if I'm not mistaken (or was it 78?).Understandably,most radio stations were afraid to play it,and Prince didn't dare make a video for it...lol


No. 67, I believe.
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Reply #67 posted 10/16/03 5:03am

JDINTERACTIVE

I also think Gold is a bit on the crap side. Especially the edited 4 radio version.
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Reply #68 posted 10/16/03 5:05am

Cloudbuster

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JDINTERACTIVE said:

I also think Gold is a bit on the crap side. Especially the edited 4 radio version.


A UK no.10. But yeah, a bit too poppy and er...'80's sounding.
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Reply #69 posted 10/16/03 5:10am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

I also think Gold is a bit on the crap side. Especially the edited 4 radio version.


A UK no.10. But yeah, a bit too poppy and er...'80's sounding.



Say what?? "Gold" is brilliant! But yeah,it does kinda resemble a big 80s rock anthem,of sorts.
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Reply #70 posted 10/16/03 5:15am

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DavidEye said:

Say what?? "Gold" is brilliant! But yeah,it does kinda resemble a big 80s rock anthem,of sorts.


I don't mind it but I think there were better choices for singles from TGE.
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Reply #71 posted 10/16/03 5:30am

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It's weird but some of these songs mentioned are my favorites. That's really interesting. But I HATE (and I don't know the real title of the song) but I think it is called "Courtin' Time".

I skip that song everytime it comes up on the CD.
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Reply #72 posted 10/16/03 5:34am

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dearlybeloved said:

It's weird but some of these songs mentioned are my favorites. That's really interesting. But I HATE (and I don't know the real title of the song) but I think it is called "Courtin' Time".

I skip that song everytime it comes up on the CD.


lol I love that tune.
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Reply #73 posted 10/16/03 5:37am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

Say what?? "Gold" is brilliant! But yeah,it does kinda resemble a big 80s rock anthem,of sorts.


I don't mind it but I think there were better choices for singles from TGE.



What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"
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Reply #74 posted 10/16/03 5:37am

hectim

Cybersingle.
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Reply #75 posted 10/16/03 5:41am

DavidEye

Some of y'all are gonna think I'm insane for saying this,but I think it was a mistake to release "Do Me Baby" as a single.The third single from 'Controversy' should have been "Private Joy",a song that was strong enough to have even been the FIRST single.
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Reply #76 posted 10/16/03 5:45am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"


The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Dolphin
P Control
Eye Hate U
Shy
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Reply #77 posted 10/16/03 5:48am

alexnvrmnd

dearlybeloved said:

It's weird but some of these songs mentioned are my favorites. That's really interesting. But I HATE (and I don't know the real title of the song) but I think it is called "Courtin' Time".

I skip that song everytime it comes up on the CD.

But, the question isn't whether or not a song is good or not, but if it would make an impact on the charts and the record-buying public!! Just like If I Was Your Girlfriend, as others have mentioned, is an excellent masterpiece, but to release as a single to get max airplay, it just wasn't going to happen. I think it's a little more about good business sense than about what's actually just good. smile
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Reply #78 posted 10/16/03 6:05am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"


The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Dolphin
P Control
Eye Hate U
Shy



LMAO smile

"P Control" as a single??!! Yeah,I'm sure radio would really embrace a song like that...lol
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Reply #79 posted 10/16/03 6:08am

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DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"


The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Dolphin
P Control
Eye Hate U
Shy



LMAO smile

"P Control" as a single??!! Yeah,I'm sure radio would really embrace a song like that...lol


Hey, Sexy M.F. got to no. 4 over here. So you never know. wink
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Reply #80 posted 10/16/03 6:13am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"


The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Dolphin
P Control
Eye Hate U
Shy



LMAO smile

"P Control" as a single??!! Yeah,I'm sure radio would really embrace a song like that...lol


Hey, Sexy M.F. got to no. 4 over here. So you never know. wink



Serious? Did they play it on the radio? In my area,the song "Sexy Mf" was played a few times on our R&B station,but they did a really clumsy edit,the chorus sounded like this...


"come here baby...yeah...you sexy mutha mutha mutha...
come here baby...yeah...you sexy mutha mutha mutha"

smile it sounded ridiculous!
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Reply #81 posted 10/16/03 6:17am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

Serious? Did they play it on the radio? In my area,the song "Sexy Mf" was played a few times on our R&B station,but they did a really clumsy edit,the chorus sounded like this...


"come here baby...yeah...you sexy mutha mutha mutha...
come here baby...yeah...you sexy mutha mutha mutha"

smile it sounded ridiculous!


We got the clumsy edit as well. lol

But yeah, it got to number 4.
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Reply #82 posted 10/16/03 9:03am

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alexnvrmnd said:

dearlybeloved said:

It's weird but some of these songs mentioned are my favorites. That's really interesting. But I HATE (and I don't know the real title of the song) but I think it is called "Courtin' Time".

I skip that song everytime it comes up on the CD.

But, the question isn't whether or not a song is good or not, but if it would make an impact on the charts and the record-buying public!! Just like If I Was Your Girlfriend, as others have mentioned, is an excellent masterpiece, but to release as a single to get max airplay, it just wasn't going to happen. I think it's a little more about good business sense than about what's actually just good. smile


That is not what the questions was though. I was only answering the question...
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Reply #83 posted 10/16/03 9:58am

CrozzaUK

DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

Say what?? "Gold" is brilliant! But yeah,it does kinda resemble a big 80s rock anthem,of sorts.


I don't mind it but I think there were better choices for singles from TGE.



What songs would you have chosen as the singles from that album? I would have picked these,in this order...

*"I Hate U"
*"319"
*"Shy"
*"Gold"


I thought I hate u was a terrible choice for a single. Its a boring slow jam. Id've had:

TMBGITW
Dolphin
Gold
Endorphine Machine

In general, bad single choices :

Paisley Park (1985) - This was released before Raspberry Beret in the UK (WTF???)
Gett Off (1991)- I love this song, but its not a first single choice (even though it did well in the UK)
Letitgo (1994) - I thought Space was much better than this.
I Hate U (1995) - Still sends me to sleep now.
Betcha By Golly Wow (1996) - Since when did Prince release covers as singles?
The One (1998) - Nice enough song, but again its just a slow jam, Come On was much better.
The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (1999) - Too slow again, doesnt grab the listener.

I guess Prince has never been good at choosing lead singles, but then again, hes also had some of the greatest:

I Wanna Be Your Lover
Controversy
1999
When Doves Cry
Raspberry Beret
Kiss
Sign O The Times
Alphabet St
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Reply #84 posted 10/16/03 10:24am

AdoreDaBang1

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DavidEye said:

Some of y'all are gonna think I'm insane for saying this,but I think it was a mistake to release "Do Me Baby" as a single.The third single from 'Controversy' should have been "Private Joy",a song that was strong enough to have even been the FIRST single.


I don't hate you baby. What you said was utter foolishness...but I don't hate you. Do me baby is the funkiest teenage dry hump song ever (besides international lover).
When it comes to funk, i am junkie
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Reply #85 posted 10/16/03 10:38am

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Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

jtgillia said:

Prince really did not choose his singles well after 1987 or so (exception being Diamonds and Pearls album). He has had a couple of potential hits on each album he's released (almost) and he's usually picked songs that are either mediocre or totally uncommercial...



Agreed.I think,beginning with the 'Parade' album,he began choosing wrong singles,in most cases.Songs like "Glam Slam","New Power Generation","If I Was Your Girlfriend" and "The Morning Papers" were poor choices for singles.But I don't know if it was him,or Warners who had the final say.


If I was Your Girlfriend did okay in the UK getting to number 20. But he should've released HouseQuake in the US.


No. 20? i'm sure it got to No 11. (i got the picture disc)
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Reply #86 posted 10/16/03 12:17pm

BinaryJustin

CrozzaUK said:

BinaryJustin said:

"Betcha By Golly, Wow", "New Power Generation", "Dinner With Delores", "The Holy River".

All terrible choices...

I also think that Warners should have skipped releasing "Thunder" as a single in the U.K. and released "Insatiable" like in the U.S. I think that "Insatiable" would have done well on Urban radio stations here, whereas I don't remember "Thunder" being played anywhere!

How many more people would have bought Emancipation if he'd released the following as singles:

01) Sleep Around b/w Somebody's Somebody;
02) Soul Sanctuary b/w In This Bed Eye Scream;
03) The Love We Make b/w My Computer;
04) Friend, Sister, Lover, Mother/Wife b/w Face Down.


No Offence but those are some of the worst choices for singles ive ever seen. My skin would've crawled if hed released Sleep around as the first single. The Holy River was the only obvious choice for a single on the album. The rest of the stuff was mediocore. The Love We Make would've been okay, and Jam Of the Year might have worked, but the whole problem with Emancipation was that there wasn't enough stand out songs to make it work. There was a lot of good stuff on there, but none that would motivate me to buy it...except The Holy River.


Sleep Around was the most commercial-sounding song on the album! It was Emancipation's equivalent of "U Got The Look". Why would this have been a bad choice for the first single?
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