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Reply #30 posted 10/04/03 4:18am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

the real question is this: if and when this video gets filmed, will it be actually shown or just get tossed in the paisley video stash along with the other unseen footage from paisley parties and the like?

hmmm


It will probably get a showing on the video screens on the Australian tour before the show starts (like the video commercials he had on the D&P tour)
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Reply #31 posted 10/04/03 10:23am

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dnaplaya said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

the real question is this: if and when this video gets filmed, will it be actually shown or just get tossed in the paisley video stash along with the other unseen footage from paisley parties and the like?

hmmm


It will probably get a showing on the video screens on the Australian tour before the show starts (like the video commercials he had on the D&P tour)

makes sense. nod
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Reply #32 posted 10/04/03 11:21am

joshmos

DIRECTOR???

Mr. Blue...can u find out who's directing? If it's Prince we're in trouble. On the other hand if it's an actual music vid director, that would give a clue as to the seriousness of this benig a "comeback" vid and single.
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Reply #33 posted 10/04/03 11:49am

softandwet

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DIRECTOR???

Mr. Blue...can u find out who's directing? If it's Prince we're in trouble. On the other hand if it's an actual music vid director, that would give a clue as to the seriousness of this benig a "comeback" vid and single.




but at the same time its not prince who directed live at aladdins cave dvd and we all know what most peeps think of that one. personally i think prince is a pretty good director, cherry moon impressed me. the reason the direction looks shit on graffiti bridge is cos in general the film isnt all that good. however, i know directing is about more than camera angles, so there you go
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Reply #34 posted 10/07/03 11:32am

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Just called the casting director's hotline and you need to leave your name/number and they will return your call with the location info. I guess it's "hush hush" right now. I will try again Friday to see if they have an address listed for Saturday. Sometimes people quit after the first day and they need additional people on the second day and they don't have time to phone each person so they may just leave the info on the hotline.

HEY! How come I posted this info on Oct 3 and NOW there's a news item on the front page of prince.org dated Oct 6 submitted by someone else? I don't get no credit no more!

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Reply #35 posted 10/07/03 11:50am

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Reply #36 posted 10/07/03 12:17pm

NuPwrSoul

A cool video to a cool song is not going to propel Prince into hitsville.

Exhibit A: "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" -- a beautiful song, well crafted, nice plush orchestration and a similarly beautifully shot video by Malik Sayeed (the cinematographer for most of Hype Williams' videos).

In order to make a splash, P has to come with something mindblowing...

"When Doves Cry" - no bass line
"Kiss" - speaks for itself
"Sign o the Times" - not mind blowin in terms of sound but in terms of lyrics
"Gett Off"
"Sexy MF"

If "Musicology" sounds anything like the samples that were in the Musicology room at the NPGMC, it may indeed be a cool tune, but nothing that is gonna shake the ground.
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Reply #37 posted 10/07/03 1:09pm

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Buying tix for flight to LA on www.jetblue.com nutty
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Reply #38 posted 10/07/03 8:07pm

thedoorkeeper

NuPwrSoul said:

A cool video to a cool song is not going to propel Prince into hitsville.

Exhibit A: "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" -- a beautiful song, well crafted, nice plush orchestration and a similarly beautifully shot video by Malik Sayeed (the cinematographer for most of Hype Williams' videos).


Problem was the video did not hit the airwaves until weeks after the single was released. If I recall Prince did not shoot the TGRES video until after the single was out. Maybe this time his promotion is being thought out in advance instead of off-the-cuff like it so often seems.
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Reply #39 posted 10/07/03 8:23pm

Sdldawn

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..
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Reply #40 posted 10/07/03 8:31pm

NuPwrSoul

thedoorkeeper said:

NuPwrSoul said:

A cool video to a cool song is not going to propel Prince into hitsville.

Exhibit A: "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" -- a beautiful song, well crafted, nice plush orchestration and a similarly beautifully shot video by Malik Sayeed (the cinematographer for most of Hype Williams' videos).


Problem was the video did not hit the airwaves until weeks after the single was released. If I recall Prince did not shoot the TGRES video until after the single was out. Maybe this time his promotion is being thought out in advance instead of off-the-cuff like it so often seems.


True, but it's not unusual for his first single to be without video. Come to think of it, that was before videos became so integral to promoting a song or album.
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Reply #41 posted 10/07/03 8:33pm

NuPwrSoul

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


lol at your comparison.

But why is it "he" that disappointed you? The song was really good, and the video very well done. It just didn't cause any waves in the sonicscape at the time, but I don't know how much control he really had over that.
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Reply #42 posted 10/07/03 8:34pm

NuPwrSoul

BTW, check psykosoul's post

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/64394

Apparently they have a casting call out for extras.

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[This message was edited Tue Oct 7 20:34:48 PDT 2003 by NuPwrSoul]
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Reply #43 posted 10/07/03 8:57pm

Sdldawn

NuPwrSoul said:

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


lol at your comparison.

But why is it "he" that disappointed you? The song was really good, and the video very well done. It just didn't cause any waves in the sonicscape at the time, but I don't know how much control he really had over that.


Well, Not "he" exactly.. the disappointment in what Rave was NOT, and what it could have been.. actually, his whole reason behind that back of collabs and pop edits.. a "comeback" a "santana part 2".. all the shit that came with it.. I believe thats what prince wanted, and I dont think he would have approached that whole scene in the manner he did if he didnt want that kind of success... so thats what was disappointing...
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Reply #44 posted 10/07/03 9:04pm

NuPwrSoul

Sdldawn said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


lol at your comparison.

But why is it "he" that disappointed you? The song was really good, and the video very well done. It just didn't cause any waves in the sonicscape at the time, but I don't know how much control he really had over that.


Well, Not "he" exactly.. the disappointment in what Rave was NOT, and what it could have been.. actually, his whole reason behind that back of collabs and pop edits.. a "comeback" a "santana part 2".. all the shit that came with it.. I believe thats what prince wanted, and I dont think he would have approached that whole scene in the manner he did if he didnt want that kind of success... so thats what was disappointing...


I think Clive had a lot to do with it. I remember reading that Clive encouraged him to make it more of a standard R&B record and so what we got was not what Prince had initially intended.

I think that Rave experience will turn out to be a significant turning point in the history of Prince's attitude to the industry (and the industry to him). I think Clive had actually convinced him that he could pull off a Santana with it, and Prince for the first time in a long time, actually heeded much of Clive's recommendations (reworking Rave, video, etc. even going to Europe to do a promo tour when he really wanted to stay in the U.S. and push the album some more).

When it was all said and done, Prince realized that Clive was having his own problems with Arista, and Rave just wasn't going to move the way Clive had hyperbolically promised. And I think that's when he did "Why should I do that when I can do this?" And directed that song to everyone from Clive to Londell who had been pushing him to be more mainstream friendly.

Prince said fuggit and decided to do his own thing. This coincides with the whole religious thing... and he follows his instinct with The Rainbow Children and the One Nite Alone tour. All the criticism of his religious beliefs aside, both were met with very good critical reviews, and so I think Prince was like "I'm better off doing this on my own."

Regarding "Rave," Prince's own "Rave In2" special edition is a far superior version.
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[This message was edited Tue Oct 7 21:05:07 PDT 2003 by NuPwrSoul]
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Reply #45 posted 10/07/03 9:05pm

Sdldawn

NuPwrSoul said:

Sdldawn said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


lol at your comparison.

But why is it "he" that disappointed you? The song was really good, and the video very well done. It just didn't cause any waves in the sonicscape at the time, but I don't know how much control he really had over that.


Well, Not "he" exactly.. the disappointment in what Rave was NOT, and what it could have been.. actually, his whole reason behind that back of collabs and pop edits.. a "comeback" a "santana part 2".. all the shit that came with it.. I believe thats what prince wanted, and I dont think he would have approached that whole scene in the manner he did if he didnt want that kind of success... so thats what was disappointing...


I think Clive had a lot to do with it. I remember reading that Clive encouraged him to make it more of a standard R&B record and so what we got was not what Prince had initially intended.

I think that Rave experience will turn out to be a significant turning point in the history of Prince's attitude to the industry (and the industry to him). I think Clive had actually convinced him that he could pull off a Santana with it, and Prince for the first time in a long time, actually heeded much of Clive's recommendations (reworking Rave, video, etc. even going to Europe to do a promo tour when he really wanted to stay in the U.S. and push the album some more).

When it was all said and done, Prince realized that Clive was having his own problems with Arista, and Rave just wasn't going to move the way Clive had hyperbolically promised. And I think that's when he did "Why should I do that when I can do this?" And directed that song to everyone from Clive to Londell who had been pushing him to be more mainstream friendly.

Prince said fuggit and decided to do his own thing. This coincides with the whole religious thing... and he follows his instinct with The Rainbow Children and the One Nite Alone tour. All the criticism of his religious beliefs aside, both were met with very good critical reviews, and so I think Prince was like "I'm better off doing this on my own."

Regarding "Rave," Prince's own "Rave In2" special edition is a far superior version.
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[This message was edited Tue Oct 7 21:05:07 PDT 2003 by NuPwrSoul]


Yep, I agree.. Good post.
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Reply #46 posted 10/07/03 9:08pm

Sdldawn

It also sucks that Prince didnt put the entire Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic (The Song) in its entire form.. Not to mention not adding that on the remix album...

Having the Rave (Full song) in complete digital sound is something worth having..
[This message was edited Tue Oct 7 21:09:19 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn]
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Reply #47 posted 10/08/03 12:58am

DrD

My recollection is that it is a sorta casual mid-tempo funk...

Quite frankly, I do not mean to be negative, I love TRC and Prince's recent output, but that "Musicology" song is so weak, its production sounds so out-dated that I feel very sad that he is probably going to release this as a commercial single.

At a time when a number of us view Andre3000's sound and production as those of a Prince of the 2000s, I am afraid that with musicology Prince will provide the final proof that he is a complete has been.

Why such a lame, pathetic commercial step back ?

I have no problem with him getting back to a commercial album, but it should be innovative, exciting, groundbreaking. Musicology is BS, it sounds like an outtake from the already very weak NewPowerSoul!

VERY sad
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Reply #48 posted 10/08/03 6:02am

LolaM

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


GRAPHIC??? I almost ill
I'll leave graffiti where you've never been kissed
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Reply #49 posted 10/08/03 9:12am

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NuPwrSoul said:

A cool video to a cool song is not going to propel Prince into hitsville.

Exhibit A: "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" -- a beautiful song, well crafted, nice plush orchestration and a similarly beautifully shot video by Malik Sayeed (the cinematographer for most of Hype Williams' videos).

In order to make a splash, P has to come with something mindblowing...

"When Doves Cry" - no bass line
"Kiss" - speaks for itself
"Sign o the Times" - not mind blowin in terms of sound but in terms of lyrics
"Gett Off"
"Sexy MF"

If "Musicology" sounds anything like the samples that were in the Musicology room at the NPGMC, it may indeed be a cool tune, but nothing that is gonna shake the ground.


I could give a crap less about a hit, I just want a another great album and if the public catches on, fine! "Musicology" is supposed to have words, right?
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Reply #50 posted 10/08/03 12:10pm

Sdldawn

LolaM said:

Sdldawn said:

He really dissapointed me with The Greatest Romance.. That really was the last song I had faith for.. It was a good song, everyone seemed to enjoy it when it was played, the video was tight (My favorite Prince video) and it still flopped over like a donkey dick.


sorry for the graphic comparison..


GRAPHIC??? I almost ill


Wow, I just imagined one kindof dirty just slithering out of its foreskin.. what the heck were u thinking of wink
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