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Reply #60 posted 10/05/03 8:47am

lovebird

I agree with Mcwatson.I mean, which do the fans think is better music, the cd 1999 or NEWS or Lovesexy or NEWS or Sign of the times or Expectation? Now he claims that he is going to retire the old songs for the new? I hope I won't be there.
People sure have a different opinion here than they do on NPG. If people were more honest just maybe Prince would see and hear something that would open his eyes and mind.
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Reply #61 posted 10/05/03 10:37am

Neversin

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lovebird said:

I agree with Mcwatson.I mean, which do the fans think is better music, the cd 1999 or NEWS or Lovesexy or NEWS or Sign of the times or Expectation?

Apples and Oranges...

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Reply #62 posted 10/05/03 12:08pm

NuPwrSoul

tricky99 said:

I agree with supernova there does seem to be something of a disregard for music idioms that are predomiantly black. I have a feeling that certain orgers identify the "best" of prince when he is more pop oriented. Which can be read as whiter. Where as some of his funk/jazz/rap music is more easily dismissed because it doesn't cuturely appeal to them. The genuis of Prince moves across all these genres of music unfortunely that doesn't mean that all his fans can so fluidly move along with him. I'm sorry but at this point in his career (25 yrs) i find it simply incredible that he still has the drive and capabiltiy to produce works like TRC, Xpectations and N.E.W.S. He is still searching, still pushing himself into new intense directions. 99% percent of musicians in music right now could simply not produce N.E.W.S. I believe even most jazz musicians could not produce it. Not that they don't have chops but because they lack the vision (genius) to pull it together. Especially when u look at Prince's complete body of work. Only genius explans Prince. I understand a lot of people don't get N.E.W.S. A lot of great art is ignored by the masses. N.E.W.S. is simply not fast food.


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Reply #63 posted 10/06/03 4:30am

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Supernova said:

Mcwatson68 said:

Prince is Prince. Prince is not James Brown, Sly Stone, etc. Why don't you people get this? Prince was good when he was doing his own style. All he does now is try to be like all the other "soul bruthas" from the 70's. That's why he makes 100% shit now. Yes, you may like it, but don't expect everyone else to. There was a time when he was groundbreaking and original.

It seems as if you don't care, but there is an undercurrent, nahhh, an overcurrent of racial animosity piling up in this entire thread from your posts. Whether you like his current music, or his current band is irrelavent to that fact.


That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I grew up on black music as well as white. I remember things like Planet Rock (Afrika Bambaata & the Soul Sonic Force), Al-Naayfish (Hashim), What People Do For Money (Divine Sounds), AJ Scratch (Kurtis Blow), Roxanne Roxanne (UTFO), and a long list of others. Racial animosity is just absurd. I have been against things like racism for a long time. That was why I mentioned the BET "Other Persuasion" remark. It was ridiculous. I liked alot of these black artists. But Prince wasn't doing that back then. What I am saying is when he tries to be like these other guys, to me, it sounds like shit. As for flaming, maybe you should remove the other comments like removeheadfromass.com and maybe I won't say anything back in that manner. Or is it ok for people that agree with you to flame? All I did was post about how I felt about this whole thing and certain people decided to blast me for it. And now you even go so far as to say I could be racist? Because he don't sound white anymore??? What white artist did he sound like back then? How was his music "white" music? Explain that to me, if you can.
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Reply #64 posted 10/06/03 5:02am

Danelivan

I see Prince as just Prince,his backing band is just that a backing band. He does what he wants no matter who he plays with and we either like it or we don't. I havn't seen the Tavis interview (Aussie no access) but have suspected for a while that P had devolved into a bit of a racist. What I don't get is he's of mixed race so how can he be racist towards any one race of people. I used to enjoy the fact that spiritually P seemed to be very open to new ideas but now feel like Im being preached at a bit with some of the stuff Ive heard. What it all boils down to is who really knows who he is. I suspect that he doesn't even know himself. All I know is that he has made some of the funkiest music ever... and thats what its all about for me in the end.
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Reply #65 posted 10/06/03 5:11am

DavidEye

Danelivan said:

I have suspected for a while that P had devolved into a bit of a racist. What I don't get is he's of mixed race so how can he be racist towards any one race of people.



Just curious,what race do you think Prince is "mixed" with?
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Reply #66 posted 10/06/03 5:23am

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DavidEye said:

Danelivan said:

I have suspected for a while that P had devolved into a bit of a racist. What I don't get is he's of mixed race so how can he be racist towards any one race of people.



Just curious,what race do you think Prince is "mixed" with?


Well seeing how he's a yellowish grey color, who knows? Maybe he's got a little bit of everything.
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Reply #67 posted 10/06/03 5:44am

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Mcwatson68 said:

As for flaming, maybe you should remove the other comments like removeheadfromass.com and maybe I won't say anything back in that manner. Or is it ok for people that agree with you to flame?

all the stuff i snipped that you said was pretty blatant. 'nuff said.
And now you even go so far as to say I could be racist? Because he don't sound white anymore??? What white artist did he sound like back then? How was his music "white" music? Explain that to me, if you can.

explain this: what exactly is "sounding white"?
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Reply #68 posted 10/06/03 5:51am

DavidEye

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Mcwatson68 said:

As for flaming, maybe you should remove the other comments like removeheadfromass.com and maybe I won't say anything back in that manner. Or is it ok for people that agree with you to flame?

all the stuff i snipped that you said was pretty blatant. 'nuff said.
And now you even go so far as to say I could be racist? Because he don't sound white anymore??? What white artist did he sound like back then? How was his music "white" music? Explain that to me, if you can.

explain this: what exactly is "sounding white"?




I think he means the Revolution-era material was more "pop/rock" than funk,thus in his opinion,more "white sounding"? LOL...
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Reply #69 posted 10/06/03 6:18am

Mcwatson68

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DavidEye said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Mcwatson68 said:

As for flaming, maybe you should remove the other comments like removeheadfromass.com and maybe I won't say anything back in that manner. Or is it ok for people that agree with you to flame?

all the stuff i snipped that you said was pretty blatant. 'nuff said.
And now you even go so far as to say I could be racist? Because he don't sound white anymore??? What white artist did he sound like back then? How was his music "white" music? Explain that to me, if you can.

explain this: what exactly is "sounding white"?




I think he means the Revolution-era material was more "pop/rock" than funk,thus in his opinion,more "white sounding"? LOL...


So telling me I have my head up my ass isn't blatant to you???

You tell me what sounding white is. I didn't bring that point up. It was brought up for me.

"tricky99 said:

I agree with supernova there does seem to be something of a disregard for music idioms that are predomiantly black. I have a feeling that certain orgers identify the "best" of prince when he is more pop oriented. Which can be read as whiter. Where as some of his funk/jazz/rap music is more easily dismissed because it doesn't cuturely appeal to them."

That about says it. There's another thread saying something similar, how white rockers turned their backs on Prince or something to that effect. But I guess it's ok to make comments about "whiteys".

It's the trend, these days.

Unfortunately, not all "whiteys" are going to stand for it. What does being white have to do with not liking the direction Prince went into (and how does my not knowing who Maceo is make my head stuck in my ass)? Dirty Mind wasn't rock. Neither was Controversy or 1999.

If you're going to filter out negative comments, you need to filter them all.
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Reply #70 posted 10/06/03 6:33am

Handclapsfinga
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better yet, i'ma just go ahead and lock this thread, as it's gone horrendously off-topic as it is...neutral
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