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Reply #30 posted 09/19/03 9:48am

javed

Endorphine machine?, great rock-FUNK track but too many trippy lyrics and a bit of a rap. Slammin riff though , still not in the Zepps league. Same goes for Cal ' Square, Lets go Crazy and all the tracks on Chaos and Disorder and also the Under Taker video. What about Bambi?. NAH.!!
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Reply #31 posted 09/19/03 9:52am

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Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief


So if Prince is rock does that make Led Zeppelin classical?

Show me where I said "Prince is rock", then see Anxiety's post.


Which I why I don't understand why you dismissed my post as a bunch of crap. shrug Whatever.

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Reply #32 posted 09/19/03 10:07am

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javed said:

As with all things he doesn't stick and focus on one style for too long which is great for us but doesn't get him the recognition he deserves.


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Reply #33 posted 09/19/03 10:27am

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Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief


So if Prince is rock does that make Led Zeppelin classical?

Show me where I said "Prince is rock", then see Anxiety's post.


Which I why I don't understand why you dismissed my post as a bunch of crap. shrug Whatever.

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Just accept it SUPERNOVA don't like you much.

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Reply #34 posted 09/19/03 10:29am

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Just accept it SUPERNOVA don't like you much.

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Excellent! The queue just gets longer. biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 09/19/03 10:39am

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Okay. One song. "Rock & Roll Is Alive"
I can't name that many. Maybe...MAYBE..."Bambi" or the long version of "She's Always In My Hair". I really have to agree with Anxiety. Apples & oranges.

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Reply #36 posted 09/19/03 10:47am

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gainsbourg said:

Well, 'SOTT' has the same riff as 'Whole lotta love' so maybe that.
Otherise, 'Let's go crazy' is comparable.
It doesn't matter how many times you say this, it doesn't make it true. The riff is musically not the same. It uses different notes, in a different order, with different time values, in a different part of the bar. They are simply similar. (There's no evidence that Prince drew on 'Whole lotta love' as inspiration for this part of 'Sign O' The Times' either.)
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Reply #37 posted 09/19/03 10:54am

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I think it's hard to compare.They're really different animals.Although,Rob Plant and P have that sensuality thang going and the girls eat it up.I think Prince would do well covering many of their songs.Led Zep is a really good band!I maean,I didn't even realize it fully until a couple of years ago.

Also,the Plant-Paige project where they cover "kashmir" is da bomdiggy!Pharrell should sample it for a Jessica Simpson remix.They could call it the "knucklhead mix".
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Reply #38 posted 09/19/03 10:56am

javed

rock and roll is alive ?, you are kiddin right , that is just an average B side with shit lyrics and again has too much funk in it. Compare that track to any by Led Zep, actually have you listened to Led Zepp!!.
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Reply #39 posted 09/19/03 11:01am

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mattosgood said:

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.



obviously as ever it is down to personal taste and very objective - but couldn't disagree more with you two

for starters listen to the guitar work on the following, they are more not only superior songs, they are more varied and interesting/humourous, both lyrically and musically:

I like it there
Shhh
Joy in repetition
The Cross
Purple Rain (a modern and more interesting Stairway to heaven)
She's always in my hair
Lets go crazy
The Ride
Chaos & Disorder
the riff at the end of Peach live circa 94/95

As you said, such a judgement is simply a matter of opinion. (Personally, I wouldn't choose 'I Like It There' as a shining example of a 'superior song' which is more 'varied and interesting / humorous both lyrically and musically.', when making such comparisons.)

Incidentally, the guitar riff at the end of Peach live circa 94/95 IS what became Chaos and Disorder, isn't it?
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Reply #40 posted 09/19/03 11:03am

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langebleu said:

Incidentally, the guitar riff at the end of Peach live circa 94/95 IS what became Chaos and Disorder, isn't it?


Well spotted.

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Reply #41 posted 09/19/03 11:04am

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hectim said:

Only if you name me ONE Led Zeppelin funk-pop track that could sit alongside Prince tracks first. And NO, 'the Crunge' doesn't count. The Cringe, more like. smile


All of my Love or the Fool in the Rain, you know, the song with the guitar solo in it that sounds A LOT like the intro to When Doves Cry nod
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Reply #42 posted 09/19/03 12:14pm

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Led Zeppelin's Rock is far superior (indeed ... except "in through the outdoor")
But they aren't funky ... "the Grunge" is horrible ...

Prince's Funk is far superior (indeed ... except everything past 1988)
But he can't rock ... "Chaos and disorder" is horrible ...
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Reply #43 posted 09/19/03 12:28pm

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PFunkjazz said:

Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief


So if Prince is rock does that make Led Zeppelin classical?

Show me where I said "Prince is rock", then see Anxiety's post.


Which I why I don't understand why you dismissed my post as a bunch of crap. shrug Whatever.

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Just accept it SUPERNOVA don't like you much.

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Reply #44 posted 09/19/03 12:31pm

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rockwilder said:

Also,the Plant-Paige project where they cover "kashmir" is da bomdiggy!

Dare I say it surpasses the original. Yeah, I dare say it.

Pharrell should sample it for a Jessica Simpson remix.They could call it the "knucklhead mix".

Don't go overboard now.
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Reply #45 posted 09/19/03 1:03pm

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many of u people are strainge with comments like prince is a pop artist.
prince was pop only when it was by accident.
computer blue,beutiful ones,darling nikki those songs aint pop,purple rain aint pop its 2 long to be pop.
prince is funk and rock both.
he can funk ,but he can hard rock

bambi undertaker
i like it there
darling nikki
whats my name
chaos and disorder
peach...and many many others.
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Reply #46 posted 09/19/03 1:04pm

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ThataintFunky said:

Led Zeppelin's Rock is far superior (indeed ... except "in through the outdoor")
But they aren't funky ... "the Grunge" is horrible ...

Prince's Funk is far superior (indeed ... except everything past 1988)
But he can't rock ... "Chaos and disorder" is horrible ...


gues you couldn't find that bridge either.

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Reply #47 posted 09/19/03 1:14pm

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thebanishedone said:

many of u people are strainge with comments like prince is a pop artist.
prince was pop only when it was by accident.
computer blue,beutiful ones,darling nikki those songs aint pop,purple rain aint pop its 2 long to be pop.
prince is funk and rock both.
he can funk ,but he can hard rock

bambi undertaker
i like it there
darling nikki
whats my name
chaos and disorder
peach...and many many others.



I think you got it backwards. Prince rocks and funks occassionally; most of the time he's pop. Though a very solid pop artist.

PR is more a pop album than what I'd consider a rock album. Possibly only LGC and PR would qualify as rock trax, but you couldn't get many rock head bangin' to the other trax. Well maybe DN, cuz it's got a very sexy thematic device. 1999 actually rocks harder; much, much harder!
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Reply #48 posted 09/19/03 1:24pm

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PFunkjazz said:

I think you got it backwards. Prince rocks and funks occassionally; most of the time he's pop. Though a very solid pop artist.


Exactly my point.
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Reply #49 posted 09/19/03 1:51pm

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hectim said:

Only if you name me ONE Led Zeppelin funk-pop track that could sit alongside Prince tracks first. And NO, 'the Crunge' doesn't count. The Cringe, more like. smile



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Reply #50 posted 09/19/03 1:55pm

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PR is more a pop album than what I'd consider a rock album. Possibly only LGC and PR would qualify as rock trax, but you couldn't get many rock head bangin' to the other trax. Well maybe DN, cuz it's got a very sexy thematic device.

Eh? So "Computer Blue" isn't rock? PR is the album that turned many (mainstream) rock heads onto Prince in the first place. In fact, many rock heads are still waiting for him to go back to something like that.


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Reply #51 posted 09/19/03 2:09pm

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Supernova said:

PFunkjazz said:


PR is more a pop album than what I'd consider a rock album. Possibly only LGC and PR would qualify as rock trax, but you couldn't get many rock head bangin' to the other trax. Well maybe DN, cuz it's got a very sexy thematic device.

Eh? So "Computer Blue" isn't rock? PR is the album that turned many (mainstream) rock heads onto Prince in the first place. In fact, many rock heads are still waiting for him to go back to something like that.


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Odd thing about CB. I felt that had a jazz fusion feel to it. Kinda like Chick Corea & Al DImeole where they run lines in unison.

OK I'll give you PR had a few extra rock tunes on it, but I challenge you to find a single "rock head... waiting for him to go back to something like that". The interest was only momentary and most could care less (mind now I'm not talking about folks who post around here who listen to Prince and some rock. I mean a real hardcore rocker!).
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Reply #52 posted 09/19/03 2:12pm

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PFunkjazz said:

Supernova said:

PFunkjazz said:


PR is more a pop album than what I'd consider a rock album. Possibly only LGC and PR would qualify as rock trax, but you couldn't get many rock head bangin' to the other trax. Well maybe DN, cuz it's got a very sexy thematic device.

Eh? So "Computer Blue" isn't rock? PR is the album that turned many (mainstream) rock heads onto Prince in the first place. In fact, many rock heads are still waiting for him to go back to something like that.


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Odd thing about CB. I felt that had a jazz fusion feel to it. Kinda like Chick Corea & Al DImeole where they run lines in unison.

OK I'll give you PR had a few extra rock tunes on it, but I challenge you to find a single "rock head... waiting for him to go back to something like that". The interest was only momentary and most could care less (mind now I'm not talking about folks who post around here who listen to Prince and some rock. I mean a real hardcore rocker!).

Over the years they haven't been hard to find for me. shrug
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Reply #53 posted 09/19/03 2:30pm

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In all honesty, now that I think of it, Bambi IS probably the only track that is straight up rock (as in can stand with Zep), unless you want to count "I'm Yours". Prince has always fused his music. He's never been too funky or too rockish. He has been too fusionish at times though. I hate to say it but Lenny Kravitz's "Mama Said" (Always on the Run) is heavier rock than pretty much anything Prince has done. Lawd knows I hate admitting that. Prince's forte is mixing funk and rock. I think his strongest material is his "blends". Zep is straight up blueprint ROCK. That's what they DO. When Prince tries to go the complete rock route, he sounds weak to me (Peach, C & D, etc.) Songs like "The Ride" are bluesy-rock, but don't stand up against Zep's "classic" sound. I think PFnukJazz nailed it: Prince occasionally rocks.
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Reply #54 posted 09/19/03 2:38pm

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gainsbourg said:

Well, 'SOTT' has the same riff as 'Whole lotta love'



Like, where?
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Reply #55 posted 09/19/03 3:28pm

VINCENT

Yeah right but when I listen to Housequake, I cannot help thinking Led Zep could never be as funky as this.
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Reply #56 posted 09/19/03 3:50pm

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Prince could take Page on guitar no prob. He could take John Paul Jones on bass and\or keys no problem. He could take Plant on vocals no problem.
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