Moonbeam said:

They're both better than anything Prince has released in the past decade.

Moonbeam said:

dirty mind! 1999 rox too, but dm is the shit-bomb-dookie!!!

Nah, Dirty Mind was a good beginnging, butt...

TheP said:

Perhaps your joking, cause if u cant into what Prince was making when he was at his creative peak, ure just loving a confused man thats angry and pointing fingers at everyone but himself. Dirty Mind, Sign O The, Parade, lovesexy and 1999 withstands anything he has released, in just about every form.

And Ure little comment about The Beatles.. Dont even go there., Age aint got a damn thing to do with anythign sounding weak, if anything, the music was better back then anyway.

Gimmie a break, this is straight up "Caught In The Moment" crap..

TheP said:

i wuz born 4 years prior to pr. does that make me old as well?

I would certainly say that Prince's music today is better. One of the reasons is the fact that he is constantly evolving into a better artist with better creativity and musical brilliance. While on Warner, he was free to create as he pleased, but he still felt confined by contractural and legal boundaries, thus stagnating the music. He is now free totally. Able to really dig deep into his nucleus and psychi, pulling out great music. Another reason Prince's music is better today is because of the blues and funk influences that he has put into it. You hear a lot of the same rif's and bits in his music today that you heard in the 70's. And the good thing about it is that it isn't sampled. It's all new, and from the master himself; unlike the Hip Hoppers and R&B wannabe's of today. His music today shows real musicianship and a desire to satisfy the listening audience. Something record labels hate.

bohurdle said:

Oh shuddup!! Who asked you!!?

j/k (kinda)

Vashti said:

hahaha

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

This just sounds like a product of a person who is more than likely young, and doesnt understand Prince's past.. and obviously The Beatles

Honestly, what the fuck is this "OLD" shit..
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bohurdle said:

Oh, I agree completely.

Hey "scififilmnerd" you certainly can't be a member of the NPG; "New Power Generation." Your views are so out of touch with what Prince is doing today. You are stuck in a time warp, and that's most unfortunate. You are really missing out. I feel sorry for you, and I pray that you will live to see THE DAWN. Repent !!

no...

i miss the "freedom"...

7IS4ME said:

But didn't Prince/ NPGMC just recently said that if fans would send back their "I would die for U" and "Erotic City" extended version cd's (amongst others) then Prince would sue WB and the fans would get a remastered Purple Rain DVD or something???!!

bohurdle said:

That's alright. I prefer The Revolution and the Lovesexy band. They had more personality individually than everyone who were ever in the NPG combined.

No, really, I respect your taste. I just don't like the way of expressing something as being factually better when it really is just a matter of your taste and opinion.

My opinion is that Prince was anartist who created music from passion. Now he is creating music as work and it shows in the quality of his music. It may be great musician ship now, but it has no drive, passion or urgency to it.
[This message was edited Wed Sep 17 4:22:42 PDT 2003 by scififilmnerd]

No No No

We all have a right to an opinion but it's got to stop when u think that the material coming from PP now is better than the '80's stuff!
What is the matter with people who belive that!??
The stuff now (and for the past 12 years or so) is embarrasing!! There's is nothing "worldwide" about this period - just a musician who is trying to live up to past glories but on his own terms and with minimalin-put from other DECENT artists.

I watched the Las Vegas DVD recently and I was actually bored, yes bored! Just like I was bored when I went to one of the ONA shows last year, and just as I listened to the Celebration'02 bootleg.
Since whn has P been so God damn bossy telling his audience tostand up and sing this and that song.

The old Prince would only tell the audience to clap their hands (and then it would be in a stylish way).


Tut tut


Can Sabotage get their act together and get all those new tiltes RELEASED please!!!???

The 80's stuff and Prince was much, much better in the 80's.

In fact it is the only reason I stick around. I keep hoping that things with Prince will get good again.

2freaky4church1 said:

2freaky said "butt"... he he he...

scififilmnerd said:

Let's all remember that the man is almost 45, and has been releasing new material constantly since 78/79...It's very very rare to see artists significantly improve over a very long period (most of them die young in any case): look at Stevie Wonder, Bowie, McCartney, Ozzy (just kidding), etc...It looks like artists are blessed with a pre-set and limited amount of creativity, once and for all. Or maybe artists (even the most gifted ones) need, in order to achieve long-lasting musical improvement, to favor humility, genuine and rigorous work and a constant willingness to expand his/her musical culture...And Prince does not necessarily seem to favor such qualities nowadays...
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EvilWhiteMale said:

You're not a true fan

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scififilmnerd said:

why do people love to state their opinions like they're actual facts?

You may be Prince fans, fans still have diferent points of view… Sometimes I think FANS DON'T LIKE THE SAME PRINCE!
The ones who say "you're nut, 80's Prin ce is the King" would be very disapointed to be into Prince's brain… In 1985, Prince already said that he could never be that "Purple superstar" again…

- First, I was lucky to see the "mythical" contest between Prince and Michael jackson during the James Brown Show: I don't like MJ, but Prince made such a poor demonstration of his vanity!
I know his 80's shows were great, like the 1981 concert in New Orlean (a masterpiece absolutely not sounding old!). But listen to the Cyracuse concert: out-dated sound works… Okay, it's WAS great, but I think the Rave DVD will be a far better way to initiate a non -Prince fan! Many new fans don't like Purpel Rain. It schoked me, but I am open minded.

- Secondly, he felt really FREE and creative during his "slave" period. Remember Victor/The Undertaker/Gold/Emancipation… u can compare Crystal Ball to Emancipation and The Truth to ONA piano: It's equal quality!

- Physicaly,90's and actual Prince is gorgeous and has STYLE and class(see the ONA portrait, wow, wet dreams are back… ).
He always been a desaster as a businessman, that's why he can do such NASTY things like his latest Aladin DVD… (I didn't buy it so I don't complain!!). After all, the man did Graffity Bridge!

To end, I think Prince is NOT as conservative as some fans who idolize his legendary stardom. He plays Jazz-freaky fusion since 94 East (and even 1976 – got the tapes!). He wrote Adore, but he wrote the brillant TRC too.
This is my point: I adore past prince, but I love present Prince the MAN, and the FREE MUSICIAN.

PEACE.

TheP said:

I think not.


maybe Prince should therefore go back to being enslaved again? It seems to work well for his creativity, no?


I hate that picture. Like on Rave it does nothing but portray him as a very vain man. bleh... doesn't stroke with his supposed beliefs either.


Yeah, that's true. But... one is never to old to LEARN. Prince can still learn to be a reasonably good businessman. It's just that he has to want to be that.


but... you just said that the "slave Prince" felt really FREE and creative back then... :confused:

What is this discussion about? I mean Prince is still Prince, and his music hasn't change a lot. When I listen to e.g. ' everlasting now' I realy hear Prince like he has always been.
The only thing I don't really appreciate now is that Prince tries to bring over his obsession with God to us. I know religion has always been important to him, but now he truly gets on my nerves sometimes.

But nevertheless his tunes are still funky a hell...I love it.
So prince is not dead, but still alive and kickin'

Another point:
a lot of people seem to be paranoid or something. I mean in another thread they are complaining that it's a shame that Prince will perform his classical stuff during the upcoming tour, while here they state that the old stuff is better. What the fuck is that all about.
get a live, and learn to appreciate the quality of the lil'funkateer's musicianship, new or old.