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Thread started 03/19/03 1:16am

gainsbourg

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Did Prince write all of Madonna's songs??

During the period 1989-1990???

Everyone knows they were dating during this period and worked on 'Love song' together. I assumed he would have helped her with all of her other songs.
'Like a Prayer' is just about the only contemporary song Prince covered in the early 90's and they sound like his lyrics.
If you listen to 'Spirit' on Martika's album - It sounds very similar to 'Vogue'. I know 'Spirit' came later but I find it hard to believe, Prince would so blatantly rip-off a Madonna song.
In the sleeve notes to 'The Immaculate Collection' Madonna thanks 'The Pope - my divine inspiration'. 'The Pope' is a Prince song and nickname.
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Reply #1 posted 03/19/03 1:22am

DavidEye

Prince contributed to Maddy's 'Like A Prayer' album...


***He plays guitar on the title track and "Keep It Together"

***He co-wrote and co-produced "Love Song" with her,which he also sings on.


***The last track "Act Of Contrition" features his guitar work


In 1990,he offered her a song called "By Alien Means",which she rejected.In 1994/95,the two are rumored to have recorded two more songs together: "Mad" and "Funk Of A Thousand Years".


So,yeah,he has definitely worked with her on several songs.But no,he did not write ALL of her songs from this period.And no,they were not dating during this time.They briefly dated each other in early 1985.



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[This message was edited Wed Mar 19 1:26:14 PST 2003 by DavidEye]
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Reply #2 posted 03/19/03 1:24am

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Listen to "Act Of Contrition"!
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Reply #3 posted 03/19/03 1:28am

DavidEye

Btw,you should check out the extended 12" version of "Like A Prayer".Prince's guitar work is more prominent on this version than it is on the album version.
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Reply #4 posted 03/19/03 1:29am

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umm, no.
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Reply #5 posted 03/19/03 1:39am

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gainsbourg said:

During the period 1989-1990???

Everyone knows they were dating during this period


I didn't.
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Reply #6 posted 03/19/03 1:40am

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DavidEye - I bet you are SO excited about the new Madonna album!!! I can't wait to get it!

Any insider gossip?
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Reply #7 posted 03/19/03 1:40am

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Thanks - i still think he co-wrote the lyrics to 'LAP'.
btw, I love the guitar at the start of the video. That must be him!!
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Reply #8 posted 03/19/03 1:44am

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I always thought that Prince wrote the song Like A Prayer. It sounds like his style and with all his other contributions to her work at that time it seems quite possible.

Did Prince ever record or play Like A Prayer (whether being a cover or not)?
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Reply #9 posted 03/19/03 2:24am

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Sabaisabai - according to 'Turn It Up 2.0' Prince DID record his own version of 'Like A Prayer', which lurks somewhere in the vault.

I don't think he did write 'LAP' but, you're right, it DOES sound like something he'd compose. Maybe that's the reason he identified with it and made a cover version??
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Reply #10 posted 03/19/03 2:24am

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eye think to have heard, in "Like A Prayer", went working also Lenny Kravitz in. Could it be they did made a teamwork in and for that song?
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Reply #11 posted 03/19/03 2:50am

DavidEye

gainsbourg said:

Thanks - i still think he co-wrote the lyrics to 'LAP'.
btw, I love the guitar at the start of the video. That must be him!!



No,Prince did NOT write the song "Like A Prayer".Madonna wrote and composed it with her producer Pat Leonard.She explained it in a 1989 interview with Song Talk magazine...


"It just came out of my head.Pat had the chord changes for the verse and the chorus.We hadn't written the bridge yet.I really wanted to do something really gospel-oriented and a capella,with virtually no instrumentaion,just my voice and an organ.So we started fooling around with the song,and we'd take away all the instrumentation so that my voice was naked.Then we came up with the bridge together,and we had the idea to have a choir".


When the song was nearly finished,they asked Prince to contribute guitar.Apparently,he was so impressed with it that he recorded his own cover version,which remains in the vaults.
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Reply #12 posted 03/19/03 2:59am

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Sheila E said she wrote her album too which was a lie..
Also, speaking of Lenny Kravitz; 'Justify my love' is another song from that era, which has a Prince connection (Ingrid Chavez lyrics with a James Brown drum sample). Even 'Rescue me' has a vague Prince connection (It's practically a cover of a Deee-Lite song)
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Reply #13 posted 03/19/03 3:03am

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I think Prince only worked on Love Song, Act Of Contrition (maybe) and covered Like A Prayer.

That's it as far as I know.

Vogue was, as usual, a magpie act of theft by Madonna, she took the ideas of Malcolm McLaren and brought them to a larger audience.

Prince steals from the past, Madonna steals from the present.
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Reply #14 posted 03/19/03 3:20am

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trouble is Prince gets 'accused' of ghost writing for several songs that sound way too like him , a prime example of course being Waterfalls by TLC, its an awesome track and i would dearly like to believe that he wrote this as much as i would like to believe he wrote LAP but sometimes we have to accept that he too gets copied.
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Reply #15 posted 03/19/03 3:25am

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'Waterfalls' is a rip-off of a Paul Mcartney song of the same name.
Yeah, good question - I have a feeling there were a lot of hits in the 80's written by him using a fake name.
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Reply #16 posted 03/19/03 3:30am

MiaBocca

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gainsbourg said:

I have a feeling there were a lot of hits in the 80's written by him using a fake name.



Like what?
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Reply #17 posted 03/19/03 3:34am

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MiaBocca said:

I think Prince only worked on Love Song, Act Of Contrition (maybe) and covered Like A Prayer.

That's it as far as I know.



He also plays guitar on "Keep It Together".Listen to that little riff he does after the first chorus,you can tell that is Prince! On the song "Act Of Contrition",his guitar playing was reversed (played backwards).
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Reply #18 posted 03/19/03 3:35am

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I'm not sure. But it might not be obvious. Look at 'Manic Monday'.
He was writing hits in his sleep then, so I think he would have been curious to see what would happen with a song using a different name. He didn't even mind giving the artist the credit for writing it, so it could easily be Madonna or anyone else for that matter!
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Reply #19 posted 03/19/03 3:36am

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MiaBocca said:



Vogue was, as usual, a magpie act of theft by Madonna, she took the ideas of Malcolm McLaren and brought them to a larger audience.

Prince steals from the past, Madonna steals from the present.





I've never heard Malcom McLaren do anything as engagingly catchy and hypnotic as "Vogue" smile
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Reply #20 posted 03/19/03 3:37am

DavidEye

onenitealone said:

DavidEye - I bet you are SO excited about the new Madonna album!!! I can't wait to get it!

Any insider gossip?




Go to the "Music:Non Prince" forum,I just started a new thread about it.
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Reply #21 posted 03/19/03 3:37am

MiaBocca

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Listen to Malcolm McLaren - "Deep In Vogue" and the album from which it is taken.
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Reply #22 posted 03/19/03 3:39am

MiaBocca

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gainsbourg said:

I'm not sure. But it might not be obvious. Look at 'Manic Monday'.
He was writing hits in his sleep then, so I think he would have been curious to see what would happen with a song using a different name. He didn't even mind giving the artist the credit for writing it, so it could easily be Madonna or anyone else for that matter!


Manic Monday was written for Apollonia 6, I can't think of a single song by Prince that was under question as to whether he wrote it or not.

There are no songs that will be "discovered" as being by Prince, people may be influenced by him, or the same folks he is influenced by, or sample him - but that's it.
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Reply #23 posted 03/19/03 3:43am

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Not only is it a FACT that he wrote all of Madonnas songs he also wrote all of Bruce Springsteens, Stevie Wonders, most of The Beatles recordings.

He also dabbled in punk in the late 70's when he wrote most of The Sex Pistols songs.

Oh yeah, he also wrote the entire catalogue of New Kids on the Block. Just what was he thinking? confuse
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Reply #24 posted 03/19/03 3:45am

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How can you be so sure?? People only found out, he wrote 'Manic Monday' after it was a hit.
Did you know, Michael Jackson wrote 'Do the bartman' for The Simpsons + I think he wrote some songs for Atlantic Starr.
Prince also wrote a song for the simpsons and he wrote 'Born to Breed' which was a big hit for Monie Love.
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Reply #25 posted 03/19/03 3:51am

MiaBocca

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gainsbourg said:

How can you be so sure?? People only found out, he wrote 'Manic Monday' after it was a hit.
Did you know, Michael Jackson wrote 'Do the bartman' for The Simpsons + I think he wrote some songs for Atlantic Starr.
Prince also wrote a song for the simpsons and he wrote 'Born to Breed' which was a big hit for Monie Love.


All these things were disclosed before their respective releases.
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Reply #26 posted 03/19/03 3:59am

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I'm not sure about that.
Anyway 'Manic Monday' would have been a hit either way.
The fact he wrote Sheila E's hits wasn't disclosed.
I think he wrote 'Love will save the day' for Whitney Houston. The bridge souns like 'Pop Life'
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Reply #27 posted 03/19/03 4:04am

MiaBocca

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gainsbourg said:

I'm not sure about that.
Anyway 'Manic Monday' would have been a hit either way.
The fact he wrote Sheila E's hits wasn't disclosed.
I think he wrote 'Love will save the day' for Whitney Houston. The bridge souns like 'Pop Life'


Sheila E's tracks were not disclosed on the record, were disclosed at the library of congress.

Pre-release cassettes of the Apollonia 6 album contained Manic Monday.

The Whitney Houston song has a big fat ZERO to do with Prince.
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Reply #28 posted 03/19/03 4:09am

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Mia - you don't know that for sure.
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Reply #29 posted 03/19/03 4:11am

MiaBocca

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gainsbourg said:

Mia - you don't know that for sure.


You're wrong.
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