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Thread started 09/19/03 8:11am

javed

OK , name me ONE Prince rock track that could sit alongside Led Zepps tracks.

I'm currently working my way through 4 Led Zepp cds and can honestly say that there isn't a single rock track that Prince has done that can compare to these original pioneers. Anyone agree. By the way the track 'What is and what should be' should be covered by Prince!.
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Reply #1 posted 09/19/03 8:13am

Cloudbuster

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Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.
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Reply #2 posted 09/19/03 8:16am

pigeontoes

Which albums?

Led Zepp II is my fav.

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Reply #3 posted 09/19/03 8:17am

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Well, 'SOTT' has the same riff as 'Whole lotta love' so maybe that.
Otherise, 'Let's go crazy' is comparable.
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Reply #4 posted 09/19/03 8:18am

Anxiety

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Reply #5 posted 09/19/03 8:25am

Pagey

Anxiety said:




nod


I love Prince's rock tracks but they are impossible to compare to any Zep tracks.
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Reply #6 posted 09/19/03 8:26am

hectim

Only if you name me ONE Led Zeppelin funk-pop track that could sit alongside Prince tracks first. And NO, 'the Crunge' doesn't count. The Cringe, more like. smile
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Reply #7 posted 09/19/03 8:27am

mattosgood

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.



obviously as ever it is down to personal taste and very objective - but couldn't disagree more with you two

for starters listen to the guitar work on the following, they are more not only superior songs, they are more varied and interesting/humourous, both lyrically and musically:

I like it there
Shhh
Joy in repetition
The Cross
Purple Rain (a modern and more interesting Stairway to heaven)
She's always in my hair
Lets go crazy
The Ride
Chaos & Disorder
the riff at the end of Peach live circa 94/95


and live Prince's recent version of Whole Lotta love - is superior to Zepplin's own version


other than that, in terms of funky guitar riffs - give me one LZ guitar riff that is funky?
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Reply #8 posted 09/19/03 8:29am

Pagey

hectim said:

Only if you name me ONE Led Zeppelin funk-pop track that could sit alongside Prince tracks first. And NO, 'the Crunge' doesn't count. The Cringe, more like. smile


Trampled Under Foot, Out On The Tiles from III, Black Dog live I have always thought is funky as hell.
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Reply #9 posted 09/19/03 8:30am

Cloudbuster

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So Prince can play some rock guitar, but he doesn't rock. wink
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Reply #10 posted 09/19/03 8:31am

Cloudbuster

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Pagey said:

Trampled Under Foot, Out On The Tiles from III, Black Dog live I have always thought is funky as hell.


nod And Presence is a rather funky album. In a rock/funk kind of way.
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Reply #11 posted 09/19/03 8:45am

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mattosgood said:

and live Prince's recent version of Whole Lotta love - is superior to Zepplin's own version


other than that, in terms of funky guitar riffs - give me one LZ guitar riff that is funky?


Although I appreciate the effort of Prince, he is not even playing the same game as Led Zep doing Whole Lotta Love...

Funky guitar riffs??? Jimmy Page created more guitar riffs on 4 Led Zep albums than Prince in his whole career. Funky? No, just a whole lotta guitar riffs...
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Reply #12 posted 09/19/03 8:47am

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mattosgood said:

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.



obviously as ever it is down to personal taste and very objective - but couldn't disagree more with you two

for starters listen to the guitar work on the following, they are more not only superior songs, they are more varied and interesting/humourous, both lyrically and musically:

I like it there
Shhh
Joy in repetition
The Cross
Purple Rain (a modern and more interesting Stairway to heaven)
She's always in my hair
Lets go crazy
The Ride
Chaos & Disorder
the riff at the end of Peach live circa 94/95


and live Prince's recent version of Whole Lotta love - is superior to Zepplin's own version


other than that, in terms of funky guitar riffs - give me one LZ guitar riff that is funky?




No it's not superior. You just happen to like it more. I happen to like Living Colour's version more, but I know it's not superior.

If you've ever seen LZ live, you'd that know they are indeed very funky, but if you are looking for funk in the guitar (Page tends to play lead more than rhythm), then you don't know much about funk. Funk starts in the rhythm section. Bonham and Jones were a pretty tight funk tandem.

I know a whole of hardcore funkateers latched onto Led Zep with "D'yer Maker", "Trampled Underfoot" and "Kashmir". I know cuz I spun my LPs for them!!

"Damn. That shit is fon-kay!!"
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Reply #13 posted 09/19/03 8:48am

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mattosgood said:


and live Prince's recent version of Whole Lotta love - is superior to Zepplin's own version


you..wh..I...it...

disbelief


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Reply #14 posted 09/19/03 8:50am

PFunkjazz

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Cloudbuster said:

Pagey said:

Trampled Under Foot, Out On The Tiles from III, Black Dog live I have always thought is funky as hell.


nod And Presence is a rather funky album. In a rock/funk kind of way.



Really? I have alwasy found PRESENCE unlistenable. That was a very long time ago and some of my attitudes have changed. I'll have to give it a whirl soon.
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Reply #15 posted 09/19/03 8:51am

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Zep rock like Ayers, man.
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Reply #16 posted 09/19/03 8:52am

Cloudbuster

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PFunkjazz said:

Cloudbuster said:

Pagey said:

Trampled Under Foot, Out On The Tiles from III, Black Dog live I have always thought is funky as hell.


nod And Presence is a rather funky album. In a rock/funk kind of way.



Really? I have alwasy found PRESENCE unlistenable. That was a very long time ago and some of my attitudes have changed. I'll have to give it a whirl soon.


It's not a great album but it is underrated. The only studio album of Zep's I've never liked much is In Through The Out Door.
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Reply #17 posted 09/19/03 8:55am

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ahhh...brings back memories of grade school...

really, neither are comparable to the other. different styles, sounds, emotions. prince has always been a blended sound whereas led zeppelin were a 'rock' band. they had soul, sure, but in a completely different way then prince exemplifies.

there is a 't' in but edit
[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 8:56:13 PDT 2003 by imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty]
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Reply #18 posted 09/19/03 8:56am

javed

Matt how can you compare P. Rain to Stairway, PR is his anthem but Stairway is just about the most anthemic rock song there is . Its twists and turns in so many directons and as for THAT voice. The thing with Prince is that live he does rock hard but on record he lets funk get in the way and adds too many quirky touches. As with all things he doesn't stick and focus on one style for too long which is great for us but doesn't get him the recognition he deserves.
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Reply #19 posted 09/19/03 9:00am

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What Is And What Should Never Be... FANTASTIC SONG!! love the live version.. yeah could be great if PRince covered it! What a fantastic band.. - As much as I love Prince, I agree with you..
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Reply #20 posted 09/19/03 9:07am

whodknee

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

ahhh...brings back memories of grade school...

really, neither are comparable to the other. different styles, sounds, emotions. prince has always been a blended sound whereas led zeppelin were a 'rock' band. they had soul, sure, but in a completely different way then prince exemplifies.

there is a 't' in but edit
[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 8:56:13 PDT 2003 by imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty]


Soul? No no no no! Attitude yeah. Same can be said for Prince (through most of the 80's and 90's atleast).

Oh, and nobody rocks like Led Zepp. music
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Reply #21 posted 09/19/03 9:14am

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Sandra said:

What Is And What Should Never Be... FANTASTIC SONG!! love the live version.. yeah could be great if PRince covered it! What a fantastic band.. - As much as I love Prince, I agree with you..


YES INDEED that's the best thing on the disc set.

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Reply #22 posted 09/19/03 9:21am

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Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.

What a bunch of crap.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #23 posted 09/19/03 9:28am

Cloudbuster

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Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.

What a bunch of crap.


How is that a bunch of crap? Point out one song on a Prince album where he really lets rip apart from the occasional fiddly guitar solo. He is not a rock artist.

o edit.
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Reply #24 posted 09/19/03 9:38am

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Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.

What a bunch of crap.


How is that a bunch of crap? Point out one song on a Prince album where he really lets rip apart from the occasional fiddly guitar solo. He is not a rock artist.

o edit.
[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 9:32:07 PDT 2003 by Cloudbuster]

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #25 posted 09/19/03 9:38am

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Okay, there's Endorphinemachine that I can think of. No others at present. There's some raw guitar on C&D but it's more funk/blues than out and out rock.


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Reply #26 posted 09/19/03 9:40am

Cloudbuster

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Supernova said:

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief


So if Prince is rock does that make Led Zeppelin classical?
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Reply #27 posted 09/19/03 9:44am

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Hey Hey children-let's end all of this Zepplin VS. Prince guitar crap right now. I've seen many interviews with Robert Plant praising Prince VERY highly so drop it.
"New Power slide...."
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Reply #28 posted 09/19/03 9:46am

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Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

As I said: what a bunch of crap. disbelief


So if Prince is rock does that make Led Zeppelin classical?

Show me where I said "Prince is rock", then see Anxiety's post.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #29 posted 09/19/03 9:46am

mattosgood

Cloudbuster said:

Supernova said:

Cloudbuster said:

Prince has never been a convincing rock act. He's a pop artist, that's what he does best. Seems he's forgotten that though.

What a bunch of crap.


How is that a bunch of crap? Point out one song on a Prince album where he really lets rip apart from the occasional fiddly guitar solo. He is not a rock artist.

o edit.
[This message was edited Fri Sep 19 9:32:07 PDT 2003 by Cloudbuster]



exactly - he is so much more
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