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PrintableNuPwrSoul said: ian said: Not everyone is as obsessed about race as Americans y'know
 Don't act like there haven't been race riots and police brutality against black and brown people in the U.K. Please don't come with that "it's an American thing" when the British crown, the Portuguese, the French, and the Germans have the monopoly on colonial racism and in the case of Germany, the damn architect of the holocaust. Correct, Europe as a whole and Britain in particular created "race" and it's labels of "black", "white", the prejudice and the stereotypes. Hell, Amerikkka was "founded" by Brits whose descendants run things to this day, so "race" is an European obsession at best. [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 9:04:14 PDT 2003 by Essence] | |
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ian said: He looks very different now, and acts very different. He wears less makeup, and dresses less effeminately.
you gotta remember though, prince has always been one of the masters of chameleonism. he don't stick with one set thing for too long. His music is "blacker" now than his 80s crossover pop stuff. Also he himself brought his race to the discussion table in the 90s when he was having his problems with Warner Bros etc and the name change.
just like i mentioned--the way he don't stay with one set thing. he may be on this jazz trip at the moment, but who knows what he's gonna go and do next? he's pretty much outgrown the whole popsy thing as it is...as for the whole 'slave' deal with warners and such, that's a whole other thread. i myself thought that whole ordeal wuz utter nonsense. | |
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stymie said: UptownDeb said: stymie said: Hopefully this thread won't turn into the next Org Exodus, but I gotta give my two cents. I can only speak to my experience. Back in the day, when Prince was not claiming his African heritage or he and WB were downplaying his race in order to market him to a wider audience, it made me feel sad. Back as a young black teenager, I thought "What's wrong with being black?" On top of that, I didn't see him with women who looked like me so I was really confused. I felt more negativity towards him then for playing himself off as non-black. Like BlaqueKnight said, to anyone black, there was never any doubt just like there is no doubt with Mariah or Tiger.
Good response, stymie! I think the irony here is that homey flips it and plays the race card by writing "Slave" on his face when "the Man" tries to hold him down. (I think MJ's "Tommy Matola is the devil" was another example by playing the RC.) Thats exactly what my peeps felt like, Stymie 
Saying that he's a hypocrite 4 playing the "race card" when it suited his demands. While he didn't give a shit about what went down in the black community when he was at the peek of his career. | |
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july said:[quote] NuPwrSoul said: july said: "I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules."
Lyrics from Controversy... And for every one lyric like that you can come up with, there are probably five countering it with racial/cultural consciousness. So that means nothing. LadyCabDriver said: damn right Actually no. 
Prince's lyric's have always tried to raise above race and culture and reach a spiritual level where color is not the focus... Prince always made a point in making race a non issue and not important, if you had an open mind. Prince did go out of his way to make his music for everyone, and not just play one type of music. He succeeded in crossing into all walk of life and made himself a legend by not being any so called race. But by being an original and an individual.  By being himself... 
guitar edit... [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 0:44:20 PDT 2003 by july] You must be unfamiliar with such songs as "Super Hero," "Black MF in the House," "When Will We Be Paid," "DMSR," "Avalanche," "Family Name," "Muse 2 the Pharoah," "2045: Radical Man," and "Peace." "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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Harlepolis said: stymie said: UptownDeb said: stymie said: Hopefully this thread won't turn into the next Org Exodus, but I gotta give my two cents. I can only speak to my experience. Back in the day, when Prince was not claiming his African heritage or he and WB were downplaying his race in order to market him to a wider audience, it made me feel sad. Back as a young black teenager, I thought "What's wrong with being black?" On top of that, I didn't see him with women who looked like me so I was really confused. I felt more negativity towards him then for playing himself off as non-black. Like BlaqueKnight said, to anyone black, there was never any doubt just like there is no doubt with Mariah or Tiger.
Good response, stymie! I think the irony here is that homey flips it and plays the race card by writing "Slave" on his face when "the Man" tries to hold him down. (I think MJ's "Tommy Matola is the devil" was another example by playing the RC.) Thats exactly what my peeps felt like, Stymie
Saying that he's a hypocrite 4 playing the "race card" when it suited his demands. While he didn't give a shit about what went down in the black community when he was at the peek of his career. That would actually hold water with me and ALL the black people I know, but it does not because there is no clear financial, commercial, popular, artistic, or critical benefit that Prince seemed to gain by "playing the race card." If it got him really free from WB, that would be one thing (they still got his masters and he still had to deliver the required albums to them); if it got him more money that would be one thing. But he gained nothing from it. Only ridicule from most people. So the "he became black when it was convenient" does not hold water. Throughout his career, even while he was with WB, there are clear signs that Prince was ALREADY moving in a direction that placed more emphasis on his roots. Most of the black folk I know, therefore see his "slave" move as a powerful sign of his growth; and a powerful statement for the voiceless artists who did not have the platform he did, about the way the industry handles them. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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rdhull said: Ok so lets really get this shit jumpin off(planet rock-ya just dont stop)..about the color scheme ( no pun)...I do feel that because of his color he gets clowned and boo-hissed for his dealings and daliances etc. rather than if he were not black...you see Axl Rose (just an example), and damn near every other rock star (especially in the 80's) playing the field and playing games...who gives a shit that he dogged precious Susannah supposedly...like he the only one to ever be nfaithful etc if the stories are even true etcbut folks pin Prince to the cross..I mean stauros..I mean cross hell I dont know anymore lol..and I wonder why folks never use relationships as an issue as they do with Prince for being such a godawful person...hell Madonna is queen bitch to her staff etc too...u think she doesn't or has not in th e past, fucked people over?...but she's looked upon as a "struggling survivor who did what she had to do to get where she wanted to go " etc and all that otha boolshet nonsense...yeah I think race has something to do with it...not skin tone per se...there I said it cause somebody had too...dont be scurred lol...Im such a fucker
[This message was edited Sun Sep 7 11:49:13 PDT 2003 by rdhull] Personally I would have said it is more down to a mixture of: the name change = butt of many jokes jealousy/backlash over his seemingly endless talent - no one, especially the so called music press, could stomach saluting his work to such high standards his failure to keep it real since the 90s when groups were more gritty - again this image over reality as with number of gigs, after shows he did then was definately keeping it real and when do you see another mega star stage dive as often if ever like he did circa 94-5 No longer the newest or hippest cat on the block - simply new people to write about |
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Aight. Time to end this race shit.
http://www.mtv.com/shared...135200.jpg Prince circa 1979. Carmel-colored. UNMISTAKEABLY BLACK. Only a blind idiot fool CAN'T see this. 
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ea.../00035.jpg Prince, the white guy? No makeup? PLUH-EASE! 
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ea.../00137.jpg Prince the same color as Wendy. Wendy is NOT Carmel-colored. Neither is Prince anymore. Hydroquinone works like a mofo. Regardless of his DELIBERATE attempts to make himself more vague racially, Prince is STILL BLACK. Whether one THINKS about it or not is irrelevant. He IS. Seems like some people who are mixed who like Prince want him to be mixed and are subscribing to that "best of both worlds" propaganda. I have seen many bi-racial people that are the worst of both worlds as well. Being mixed does not make you better in any way. To some cultures, it makes you less pure. For Prince, it broadened his marketbase. Mo $$$, mo $$$, mo $$$!!! That's what time it REALLY is. Some of the youngstas on here need to grow up and get a clue. [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 10:40:42 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight] [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 10:54:21 PDT 2003 by BlaqueKnight] | |
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Romance1600 said: These type of threads are always very interesting.
I really don't have the time or will to read the entire 74 posts, but reading a few, it makes me wonder why questions like these come up. The question posed makes me think the author loaded it with the presumption that criticism towards Prince from his fanbase comes from his white fans. Exactly!! And not only that, but it also causes racist arguments on this site AND I think it's high time we stopped all the black/white racist threads! Prince was treated much the same as Lenny Kravitz by some blacks because he wasn't "black" enough. No wonder there is so much hate and racism in this world. Some people can never stop separating black and white. Get over it for christ sake - who gives a fuck what colour anyone is??  | |
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NuPwrSoul said: Harlepolis said: stymie said: UptownDeb said: stymie said: Hopefully this thread won't turn into the next Org Exodus, but I gotta give my two cents. I can only speak to my experience. Back in the day, when Prince was not claiming his African heritage or he and WB were downplaying his race in order to market him to a wider audience, it made me feel sad. Back as a young black teenager, I thought "What's wrong with being black?" On top of that, I didn't see him with women who looked like me so I was really confused. I felt more negativity towards him then for playing himself off as non-black. Like BlaqueKnight said, to anyone black, there was never any doubt just like there is no doubt with Mariah or Tiger.
Good response, stymie! I think the irony here is that homey flips it and plays the race card by writing "Slave" on his face when "the Man" tries to hold him down. (I think MJ's "Tommy Matola is the devil" was another example by playing the RC.) Thats exactly what my peeps felt like, Stymie
Saying that he's a hypocrite 4 playing the "race card" when it suited his demands. While he didn't give a shit about what went down in the black community when he was at the peek of his career. That would actually hold water with me and ALL the black people I know, but it does not because there is no clear financial, commercial, popular, artistic, or critical benefit that Prince seemed to gain by "playing the race card." If it got him really free from WB, that would be one thing (they still got his masters and he still had to deliver the required albums to them); if it got him more money that would be one thing. But he gained nothing from it. Only ridicule from most people. So the "he became black when it was convenient" does not hold water. Throughout his career, even while he was with WB, there are clear signs that Prince was ALREADY moving in a direction that placed more emphasis on his roots. Most of the black folk I know, therefore see his "slave" move as a powerful sign of his growth; and a powerful statement for the voiceless artists who did not have the platform he did, about the way the industry handles them. | |
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kisscamille said: Exactly!! And not only that, but it also causes racist arguments on this site AND I think it's high time we stopped all the black/white racist threads! Prince was treated much the same as Lenny Kravitz by some blacks because he wasn't "black" enough. No wonder there is so much hate and racism in this world. Some people can never stop separating black and white. Get over it for christ sake - who gives a fuck what colour anyone is??
show me the racism/separatism within this thread. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: kisscamille said: Exactly!! And not only that, but it also causes racist arguments on this site AND I think it's high time we stopped all the black/white racist threads! Prince was treated much the same as Lenny Kravitz by some blacks because he wasn't "black" enough. No wonder there is so much hate and racism in this world. Some people can never stop separating black and white. Get over it for christ sake - who gives a fuck what colour anyone is??
show me the racism/separatism within this thread. You've got to be kidding?? | |
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kisscamille said: You've got to be kidding??
nope, show me. i'ma tell you right now that this is not what this thread is about. some folks are gettin their views misconstrued here and gettin their feathers ruffled cuz they think this is all racially motivated, but it's not. read closer. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Hydroquinone works like a mofo.
True! | |
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UptownDeb said: BlaqueKnight said: Hydroquinone works like a mofo.
True! hydroquinone? what's that?  | |
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I never understood y when those rock artists of the 80's would look like girls and wear make up and lace still b gettin credit 2 this day as the greatest groups and shhh but P only gets mentioned on Bet n VH1. Well o well. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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AGAIN IT'S A PITY I JOINED THIS DISCUSSION SO LATE IN THE DAY...
But hat's off to BlaqueKnight for the words of wisdom. Very apt. M.2.K :2C: M.2.K
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: UptownDeb said: BlaqueKnight said: Hydroquinone works like a mofo.
True! hydroquinone? what's that? Skin bleaching cream I assume, doubt Prince did this, just different levels of makeup vary his looks in Blaque's pics. | |
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Essence said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: UptownDeb said: BlaqueKnight said: Hydroquinone works like a mofo.
True! hydroquinone? what's that? Skin bleaching cream I assume, doubt Prince did this, just different levels of makeup vary his looks in Blaque's pics. ohh, awright...and yeah, i highly doubt the skin bleaching as well. | |
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july said: BlaqueKnight said: july said: I'm not defending Prince not being black. I'm just saying I believe he has a few other things in his mix as well... That's not a bad thing or negative. Prince is not african that is forsure. But American and from the midwest who's parents came from a known racially mixed area. New Orleans... It's just my opinion Prince is mixed... Not to freak out the people who want him to be totally Black and that's it...  "Prince is not african" [color=blue:13ed1ecb3a:f7ecd04ecd:fa58e2e55f:47a960d64f:09d99132a1]We are ALL African. "It's just my opinion Prince is mixed... Not to freak out the people who want him to be totally Black and that's it... "
[color=blue:13ed1ecb3a:f7ecd04ecd:fa58e2e55f:47a960d64f:09d99132a1] I think you underestimate the extent of the classification of black. Most of us are "multi-cultural", but many choose to embrace the culture they grow up in primarily. Since Prince is NOT bi-racial like Halle Berry (one white parent, one black parent), its pretty safe to assume that he grew up in BLACK culture. The "old" Prince was carmel-colored and unmistakeably black. (pre "dirty mind" era) It wasn't until the body makeup and caked on face makeup started until there was a so-called question. He and WB made his race a question. To the black community, there was NEVER ANY QUESTION. Ya'll (non-blacks) just have a hard time with the deprogramming. Even Prince calls himself a black man now. So WHY IS THERE A QUESTION? Even Lenny Kravitz, who IS bi-racial, identifies himself as a black man. Black comes in MANY shades.  No, you're plain wrong... 
Body make up.  Prince did not wear body make up... 
edit edit... [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 1:00:04 PDT 2003 by july] Body make up! Pleezeee...
This is Prince in all his glory a almond brown light skinned man. He definitely is not dark...  | |
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july said: july said: BlaqueKnight said: july said: I'm not defending Prince not being black. I'm just saying I believe he has a few other things in his mix as well... That's not a bad thing or negative. Prince is not african that is forsure. But American and from the midwest who's parents came from a known racially mixed area. New Orleans... It's just my opinion Prince is mixed... Not to freak out the people who want him to be totally Black and that's it... "Prince is not african" [color=blue:13ed1ecb3a:f7ecd04ecd:fa58e2e55f:47a960d64f:09d99132a1:c1a40b92ed]We are ALL African. "It's just my opinion Prince is mixed... Not to freak out the people who want him to be totally Black and that's it... "
[color=blue:13ed1ecb3a:f7ecd04ecd:fa58e2e55f:47a960d64f:09d99132a1:c1a40b92ed] I think you underestimate the extent of the classification of black. Most of us are "multi-cultural", but many choose to embrace the culture they grow up in primarily. Since Prince is NOT bi-racial like Halle Berry (one white parent, one black parent), its pretty safe to assume that he grew up in BLACK culture. The "old" Prince was carmel-colored and unmistakeably black. (pre "dirty mind" era) It wasn't until the body makeup and caked on face makeup started until there was a so-called question. He and WB made his race a question. To the black community, there was NEVER ANY QUESTION. Ya'll (non-blacks) just have a hard time with the deprogramming. Even Prince calls himself a black man now. So WHY IS THERE A QUESTION? Even Lenny Kravitz, who IS bi-racial, identifies himself as a black man. Black comes in MANY shades. No, you're plain wrong...
Body make up. Prince did not wear body make up...
edit edit... [This message was edited Mon Sep 8 1:00:04 PDT 2003 by july] Body make up! Pleezeee...
This is Prince in all his glory a almond brown light skinned man. He definitely is not dark... I'm just teasing y'all... Relax... 
Us "almond brown" folks... opps... I mean "black" folks gotta stick together...  | |
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1) i'ma go ahead and bow outta this thread for a bit, i suppose...
2) rd, you may wanna start up a part 2 of this thread, cuz it's spillin out into the hallway n'chit... | |
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Black or white. I don't care.
As long he's not gay!
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At the jump I never recall his color having much to do with how he was being accepted, I was more about his questionable
sexuality that caused most people to shun him. It's only sence he's begun to express his 'Blackness' that the negativity has become aparent. It kinda makes one think that folks were cool with his shit while his race was a questionable thing, now those who have liked him for years are in a quandery because they still like him, but he is no longer a 'raceless' being and that may bother them. I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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ian said: rdhull said: ian said: rdhull said: ian said: Let's be honest though... Prince in the 80s (back when he was famous) definitely tried to be ambiguous with his image with regard to sexuality and race. He did very well out of it. For most ordinary people who aren't Prince nutjobs, they remember Kiss and Purple Rain but the rest is an unknown quantity made of tabloid tidbits and stuff about the name-change. With his makeup on Prince is paler than I am FFS, so who could tell what his parentage was?
I agree with him trying to pass as someting else to a point..but still...I aint buying that "oh Prince is black? who knew?" stuff. Talk about naive oblivion  It's just the truth. Prince isn't that important for people to be aware of the fine details if they aren't fans.
Im just saying that knowing a prominant entertainer is black or white isn't a "fine detail" regardless A workmate of mine is in his thirties, and he's a talented musician. He loves his music, plays loads of instruments, but he's never had much exposure to black music - he is into stuff like Pink Floyd, Peter Gabriel etc. He was totally surprised when I told him Prince was black. He's not the first who has reacted that way. I can't think of any reason why people would know such details... and I can't really figure out why you think everyone is aware of Prince's ethnicity...
Yeah well I know someone who didnt know that Led Zeppelin sang Whole Lotta Love..had never heard the song until Prince did it so I guess Ireland is a really... different place altogether Actually I live and work in Scotland at the moment so I was referring to a Scottish person
But I bet my mother isn't aware that Prince is black, and she's the same generation as Prince. With regard to race being "fine detail" - for other artists I'd agree with you, but for Prince his most famous era was as an androgynous pop-pixie. I mean, we all know Bono is a white guy from Ireland. We all know Bob Marley is a black guy with dreads. Prince is known not as a black entertainer but as a "skinny pale androgynous pop star who might be gay and wears purple and frilly shirts and high heels". The cartoony image Prince created for himself overshadowed himself as a person, as a black man, and as a musician at times. | |
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Come on, everybody, yeah, this is your life
I'm talkin' 'bout a revolution we gotta organize We don't need no segregation, we don't need no race New age revelation, I think we got a case
/// The year is 2020 And in the club - Love4OneAnother Students dance 2 the heartbeat of the drum 3000 or more dance on the dance floor Same aesthetics - everyone Taste the color, smell the fun The force of nature is what brought us here The walls between us soon all disappear The year is 2020 and there's no more fear Can U see this? (Mm hmm) Peace and happy people (Mm hmm) /// Prince Same December Once was this ball with a line straight down the middle One side was black and the other one white And they both understood so little That they spent their whole lives tryin' 2 tell each other what time it was And all along it did not matter what either said Because, because U only know what u know U only see what your heart will show U only love when your soul remembers We all come from the same December And in the end that's where we'll go So let's go There once was a golden idol that went 2 the winners Needless 2 say, it didn't make 'em feel any less a sinner Cuz the very next mornin' the whole damn world was the same Yes it was The idol's still shinin' but the voice inside it said, "There ain't no winners in this game" U only know what u know U only see what your heart will show U only love when your soul remembers We all come from the same December And in the end that's where we'll go So let's go There once was an angel Who most certainly watched over me But if it got me through the day Is it crazy? Yeah, I'll be crazy Until the demons fall as far as anyone can fall When they reap what they done sowed, I'll be standin' tall We spend our whole lives tryin' 2 dog the other man When what we need 2 do is try to give him all we can But, uh, u only know what u know And, uh, u only see what your heart'll show And, uh, u only love when your soul remembers We all come from the same December And in the end that's where we'll go So let's go Let's go Let's go! /// Prince Race Lie down, [fair 1//pheromone], and come away Till the rain is over and gone G-G-Gimme the beat now (Face the music) Lead line (Face the music) If the air is a little thick in this room 2nite I reckon it's the result of an onslaught of separatist rookies Overcome by this colorful sight Talkin' so fast that even they Talkin' so fast that even they Don't know what they mean Of all the things that base a rhyme How is it that U everytime Regurgitate the racist lines that keep us apart? Thank God this ain't Monopoly U'd make us all go back 2 start Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Race Face the music We all bones when we dead Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Cut me, cut U Both the blood is red I gotcha Race Race Check it Three seats over there's a lady black Entrusted 2 her care is a little white girl And the fact of the matter is Before her momma or another kid at school Tells her about the fallacy that 1 race rules over the other She'd be a much-better-off-left fool (Face the music) If we never heard about the evils that those before us committed Then how my dear, tell me now how my dear, tell me now how now would we know And then the band say Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Race Face the music We all bones when we dead Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Cut me, cut U Both the blood is red I gotcha Race Race (Face the music) D-d-down with H-I-S-T-O-R-Y and all this BS propagandi Keepin U from me and me from U as we grow I don't wanna know (I don't wanna know) Why those before us hated each other I'd rather believe they never did I'd rather believe (I'd rather, I'd rather believe) That there's hope 4 a kid And if he imitates the best I guess that's what I'll try 2 be And I will let the rest dissolve with my guitar underneath the sea Race (Face Face Face Face Face) Face the music (Face the music) Face the music Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Race Face the music We all bones when we dead Race In the space I mark human (Face the music) Cut me, cut U Both the blood is red Get it? Race Got it Race Face the music Race Race (Face Face Face the music) Race Race (Face Face Face the music) Race Race Race Race (Face-F-Face the music) Race /// Prince Color Performed by The Steeles Composed by Prince Color me black if U color me just like U Color me angry if U color me less than I do (Whoa, what's your color?) Yeah, what's your color? (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color? Color me happy if U teach me what I need 2 know Color me gone if U don't, if U don't cuz every child needs 2 grow This I know (Whoa, what's your color?) Oh, what's your color, yeah? I wanna know (Whoa, what's your color?) Oh, what's your color? Listen (Listen) Love is my color when I'm shown love in return But when I am not, it's a bet U can guess what I have learned What's my color? Hey Color me green (Color me green) if I cannot have what U've got Color me blue (Blue) until I do cuz the fire will sho'nuff be hot Yes it will (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color, yeah? Hey yeah (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color, yeah? Oh, make me a promise (Make me a promise) Oh, make me a promise (That whatever U color me) that whatever U color me U will at least color me then I can color U 2 What's your color? (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color, yeah? Hey Color (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color? (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color, yeah? What's your color? Make it Love What's your color? Mine is Love (Whoa, what's your color?) Yeah (Whoa, what's your color?) What's your color? (Whoa, what's your color?)
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HYDROQUINONE...
Is a chemical agent found in skin-lightening creams, but also used as a developer in black and white photography, lithography and in x-ray films. Bleaching creams containing the chemical were banned in South Africa during the 1980s after it was found responsible for the disfiguration of thousands of women. My 2 kobo M.2.K
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papaa said: HYDROQUINONE...
Is a chemical agent found in skin-lightening creams, but also used as a developer in black and white photography, lithography and in x-ray films. Bleaching creams containing the chemical were banned in South Africa during the 1980s after it was found responsible for the disfiguration of thousands of women. My 2 kobo That pertains to Michael Jackson... Not prince... | |
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stymie said: I am always fascinated by what you write, NPS, whether I agree with it or not. So I wanna ask you a couple of questions, if that's cool. Is the Prince of late the 'real' Prince? More in touch with roots, less sexual, etc.?
People are the sum total of their life experiences. However, Prince just like everyone else has the power to reinvent self over and over again. It is not for us to say which "self" is more real, just to accept which "self" just is. And currently, the Prince that we have before us is a racially conscious black man, who is married, and belongs to a conservative religious tradition. I don't think I really know what the slave thing was really about. It's my understanding that he signed a contract and later was unhappy with said contract hence the 'slave' scrawling. Are you saying that he did this to speak to the fact that he and other artists had no control over their music?
My understanding is that the battle was over how often he could release his music. His was an impulse driven by art, while his company was driven by business decisions, hence the clash. Really, the "slave" metaphor resonates well with black people so I never understood why people got all up in arms. Jill Nelson's "Volunteer Slavery" about racism in the journalism industry invoked the slavery metaphor, as did Nathan McCall in "Makes Me Wanna Holler" when he compared job hunting in corporate America to being on an auction block. Both books were published in 94-95... right around the same time Prince invoked the same metaphor to describe the dynamics within the music industry over control over your own work. Both Nelson and McCall's books were praised and sold well. So in that context, the "slave" thing made perfect sense to me. "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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yes, i do think that there are a lot of white fans that are secretly bitter that prince is now celebrating his "blackness"...
they feel like prince has turned on 'em or something... ... i don't remember a lot of black folks complaining about the "lynch" name changing thing that prince did before "family name" on the ONA tour... but i remember a lot of pissed of white people...
same thing with the words to the "moors"... how many white people got their draws in a bind over "abraham lincolm was a racist"... so, i agree with rd... i think that subconciously, a lot of white people have a problem with prince's blackness... and even though it's not on-topic, the debate about prince's race perfectly illustrates rd's original post... only the white people are debating prince's race... the white people are holding on to "prince is mixed" like they starving and it's the last of crumb of food on earth... and i gotta say this right here... you gotta be an blind-ass ignorant muthafucka not to see that prince is black... plain and simple... i don't care who the fuck you are or how much you know about prince, if you ever seen a picture of prince, you knew that muthafucka was black... i'm with theClaps on this one... people act like black people only come in one shade... like you gotta take the black moses test... "if you lighter than Isaac Hayes, you ain't black"... all people come in different shades... there's darker white people, and paler white people... same with hispanics... same with everybody... just cause prince ain't on the darker end of the spectrum don't make him any less black...  Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo 
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