Essence said: Supernova said: [Snip. Flame removed. Ian]
Hehe, July/Luvy and HerRoyalBadness aren't really bringing a decent opposing argument to the table here. My first ever snip. flame removed., I feel so special now. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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violetorgangrinder said: For those of you who either didn't realize Prince was black or know of people who didn't realize it, you are not alone. A quick search on the internet revealed the following quotes:
"Wait a minute... Prince is black? I never noticed that!" "It is easy for a lot of people to forget that Prince is black. But he is." "Also mistaken. Prince is white." "Prince is black???" dayum! | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: violetorgangrinder said: For those of you who either didn't realize Prince was black or know of people who didn't realize it, you are not alone. A quick search on the internet revealed the following quotes:
"Wait a minute... Prince is black? I never noticed that!" "It is easy for a lot of people to forget that Prince is black. But he is." "Also mistaken. Prince is white." "Prince is black???" dayum! Those quotes all have Scottland and Irleands isp's "Climb in my fur." | |
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Supernova said: Essence said: Supernova said: [Snip. Flame removed. Ian]
Hehe, July/Luvy and HerRoyalBadness aren't really bringing a decent opposing argument to the table here. My first ever snip. flame removed., I feel so special now. wear that 'snip' with pride... | |
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lol... Ya'll like to debate race... instead of just being human... lol.. | |
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july said: lol... Ya'll like to debate race... instead of just being human... lol..
believin in total utopia ain't gonna getcha nowhere. stuff like this happens all the time--and it's human. | |
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Whats funny about a thread like this, is that I could easily go post a "How much is negativism towards Prince due to him being white"..
hahaha geez man | |
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So how much of he is black, how much white, how much indian, and whatever else? | |
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Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Pino is talkig about Prince being his favorite singer... | |
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Oh, come on now. Go to a music industry site and mention Axl and you'll get lots of mean-spirited jokes and derision. Mention Prince and you'll most likely get, "that guy's a genius - it's a shame I don't know what happened to him."
And within the fanbase? I can't speak for the online environment, but the fans I know and have met in person are about the most colorblind people I've met, and any "negativism" I've heard has always been about his business practices and the way he's treated women over the years. Does that translate to ragging on him because he's black? I don't think so. Get a fan of Phil Spector going and you'll most likely hear a lot of the same criticisms. We kvetch because we care, you know. That and we want our NPGMC official Prince spoon cozies. | |
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ian said: Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Pino is talkig about Prince being his favorite singer...
yeah, somebody had mentioned this earlier... | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: ian said: Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Pino is talkig about Prince being his favorite singer...
yeah, somebody had mentioned this earlier... But this time I said it, and I'm cooler! | |
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ian said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: ian said: Remember that scene in "Do the Right Thing" where Pino is talkig about Prince being his favorite singer...
yeah, somebody had mentioned this earlier... But this time I said it, and I'm cooler! uh, yeah. | |
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ian said: With regard to race being "fine detail" - for other artists I'd agree with you, but for Prince his most famous era was as an androgynous pop-pixie. I mean, we all know Bono is a white guy from Ireland. We all know Bob Marley is a black guy with dreads. Prince is known not as a black entertainer but as a "skinny pale androgynous pop star who might be gay and wears purple and frilly shirts and high heels". The cartoony image Prince created for himself overshadowed himself as a person, as a black man, and as a musician at times.
so you're saying that all black entertainers, and black people for that matter, are supposed to dress and act the same way? as far as I'm concerned, all of those things you mentioned were what MADE him black...in other words, it didn't seperate him from it, but it made him a unique black individual...not all black people dress the same, act the same, etc. Prince may have played games with ethnic ambiguity, but he's not stupid, he KNEW and still knows, that he's black. The only reason he played games with it is probably because he got sick of being questioned about it. (by the WHITE media, I might add, one of whom blatantly told him to his face that he wasn't black) ***************************************************
Seems like the overly critical people are the sheep now days. It takes guts to admit that you like something. -Rdhull ...it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at... - Rakim | |
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true.. but.. didnt the blacks point out that he wasnt black?
Sorry, just about everyone I know thinks he's white.. I dont give a shit what he is.. it doesnt matter now does it... well, 2 some of u it obviously does, seems like its a comfort blanket or something.. very strange. | |
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ok, Perhaps they dont say WHITE, but most people always wonder what the hell he is, and thats the first thing out of their mouth..
I dunno.. | |
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I'd call him a creamy mocha java with half and half or skim.. in a really tiny cup.. built to serve. get 12 punches and u get a free side of Tony M with Preachy grahm crackers. [This message was edited Sun Sep 7 19:37:04 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn] | |
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Somebody is a dork--I won't say who though... "Climb in my fur." | |
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"Im such a fucker" First reasonable words out your mouth. | |
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i guess prince just had a lot of issues about identity back then. i read a really interesting review of the popularity of Purple Rain by a famous black film critic named David/donald? Bogle's book Coons Mulattos and Mammies about how Prince was marketed as a "tan" character rather than a black person to further his appeal to white audiences, the way he explained it was really deep and i never had thought of it that way before.. sorry i don't have the review, but anywho, this subject has been discussed with many black artist who find fame with racial ambiguity only to be dropped like a bad habit.. and by some of the posts on here it's really alarming the narrow uneducated view white ppl have of what a black person is ....
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BlaqueKnight said The rest of the world has almost forgotten about him or view him in a nostalgic sort of way.[/b][/color][/quote]
Hehe, whats so silly is I find myself coming here in my MOMENTS of spare time for no reason sometimes.. I could really care less of what this world or fan base thinks of Prince, or hear about why and what kind of fart he just made. Or maybe im just so naive to believe there is actually gonna be new music awaitin for me when I sign on his/or this site... | |
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Sdldawn said: "Im such a fucker" First reasonable words out your mouth. I see Ive upset you again ..was it the dork thing? "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Sdldawn said: "Im such a fucker" First reasonable words out your mouth. I see Ive upset you again ..was it the dork thing? RD, come on.. if u think this cow dung that people say around here gets me upset.. gimme a break. [This message was edited Sun Sep 7 20:27:22 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Supernova said: Essence said: Supernova said: [Snip. Flame removed. Ian]
Hehe, July/Luvy and HerRoyalBadness aren't really bringing a decent opposing argument to the table here. My first ever snip. flame removed., I feel so special now. wear that 'snip' with pride... She just called me weird... That's not a flame... I like it when she calls me weird... It's not like I called her bitter, or anything... at all for that matter. Rova likes to follow me on the boards I don't mind... lol... | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: july said: lol... Ya'll like to debate race... instead of just being human... lol..
believin in total utopia ain't gonna getcha nowhere. stuff like this happens all the time--and it's human. Total utopia lol... what is that? lol... No, but drawing colorlines for a racially mixed man will really really get you no where. Being human is enough... Race divides humans into catagorys. Let's find racial and cultural similarities... There is no black or white... Only shades of the... | |
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Sdldawn said: rdhull said: Sdldawn said: "Im such a fucker" First reasonable words out your mouth. I see Ive upset you again ..was it the dork thing? RD, come on.. if u think this cow dung that people say around here gets me upset.. gimme a break. [This message was edited Sun Sep 7 20:27:22 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn] Come on duke..each time Ive clowned u you have gotten pised "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Sdldawn said: rdhull said: Sdldawn said: "Im such a fucker" First reasonable words out your mouth. I see Ive upset you again ..was it the dork thing? RD, come on.. if u think this cow dung that people say around here gets me upset.. gimme a break. [This message was edited Sun Sep 7 20:27:22 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn] Come on duke..each time Ive clowned u you have gotten pised I know, I really like doing this with u.. its seasonal thing. I like how u keep replying to it also.. your my little Next topic: Chuck D sucks a big public enemy dick.. [This message was edited Sun Sep 7 20:57:09 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn] | |
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july said: Total utopia lol... what is that? lol... No, but drawing colorlines for a racially mixed man will really really get you no where. Being human is enough... Race divides humans into catagorys. Let's find racial and cultural similarities... There is no black or white... Only shades of the... White people have the luxury to pretend that "there is no black or white", but people of color DON'T. Society in general won't allow for it. That crap didn't work in the 80's and it won't EVER work. The only true answer is to learn to RESPECT THE DIFFERENCES. The problem is, not enough people want to do that. Pretending is so much easier. Pretending isn't REAL, though. Some of my favorite artists are white, but I like them AND I understand and respect their culture. I don't pretend they are an "exception". I accept. So UNDERSTAND that Prince IS BLACK, ACCEPT IT, and move on. Folks get on my nerves thinkin' that multi-racial = more than. That best of both worlds shit is BULLSHIT. Red roses are as beautiful as pink and white swirled ones. Just different, that's ALL. Same with people. Peace. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: july said: Total utopia lol... what is that? lol... No, but drawing colorlines for a racially mixed man will really really get you no where. Being human is enough... Race divides humans into catagorys. Let's find racial and cultural similarities... There is no black or white... Only shades of the... [color=blue:fe275619c6:bb7d94e4dc]White people have the luxury to pretend that "there is no black or white", but people of color DON'T. Society in general won't allow for it. That crap didn't work in the 80's and it won't EVER work. The only true answer is to learn to RESPECT THE DIFFERENCES. The problem is, not enough people want to do that. Pretending is so much easier. Pretending isn't REAL, though. Some of my favorite artists are white, but I like them AND I understand and respect their culture. I don't pretend they are an "exception". I accept. So UNDERSTAND that Prince IS BLACK, ACCEPT IT, and move on. Folks get on my nerves thinkin' that multi-racial = more than. That best of both worlds shit is BULLSHIT. Red roses are as beautiful as pink and white swirled ones. Just different, that's ALL. Same with people. Peace. Said in a blue font Bknight "Climb in my fur." | |
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It's seems like it's the non-black people that don't want Prince to be black | |
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