undulatingacrobat said:

would he want to? that's the question.
most of you orgers are ignorant mofos and see other
artists influenced by prince as possible attackers of
prince's sacred thrown. as people that want to be like
your prince. as people that want to be more than your
prince ever was.

that ain't the case here. an artist like d'angelo only
wants to share that he listened to prince back in the
day and other artists for that matter and was really influenced by them in one way or another.

prince was cool. maybe for most people on these boards
he's still the man to this day. but don't be ignorant. don't defend him whenever you feel like his legacy is getting tainted. when that's clearly not the case.

purpleone said:

Thanks for pointing out a point that I missed, Purpleone. D'Angelo is probably the ONLY one who actually brings something new to the table. I can remember when he first dropped "Brown Sugar," I was like what the hell is this!!! It was so captivating and new. NO ONE was doing the shit he was, other than maybe Tony Toni Tone, and we can all see why Ray decided to work with him. Although I loved Voodoo, I think he actually regressed a little bit because ?uestlove is such a sorry-ass drummer and he even said in his review of the album that most of the beats were just loops. I can't wait to hear what D has in store for us next...especially since it's supposed to be only he and Raphael doing the shit!

To answer your question about the live album, I haven't heard anything else other than the snippetts, but that's enough for me to run out and buy it!!! LOL!!!

Stay down!

dangelo is a talented guy. he doesnt sound like prince vocally apart from the falsetto really. and prince wasnt the first guy to sing in a high voice. soul music has had millions. people need to get off this prince vs. dangelo thing.

anyway, the voodoo tour was incredible and funky and there simply arent many people doing it like that anymore, sad to say. and yes, a lot was borrowed from prince and others, but anyone who thinks prince never borrowed a few things here and there has got issues.

questlove is a gossipy big mouth but he means well. he loves prince. hes said playing with him at a show was the highpoint of his career. hes a limited drummer with arguably more reputation than ability but hes not at all bad.

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I think he actually regressed a little bit because ?uestlove is such a sorry-ass drummer and he even said in his review of the album that most of the beats were just loops. [/quote]

?uest is a sorry-ass drummer? bite your tongue until it bleeds

i think cats severely underestimate ?uesto's pocket

there's a reason why d picked him to co-pilot on voodoo and the tour(which featured one of the dopest bands to hit the stage in awhile)

you'll see

Scrapluv said:

?uest is a sorry-ass drummer? bite your tongue until it bleeds

i think cats severely underestimate ?uesto's pocket

there's a reason why d picked him to co-pilot on voodoo and the tour(which featured one of the dopest bands to hit the stage in awhile)

you'll see[/quote]

the drumming on voodoo was very limited though, whether intentional or not. im all for minimalism, i hate over flashy drummers, and this is soul after all, not rock, so i dont expect a million fills all over the place but there was hardly any variation on voodoo in terms of the drumming. its hard to tell sometimes with questlove as he seems to be trying too hard, im not sure how skilled he really is as of late, even on other peoples records, he just drums in that same old style. in thepocket is one thing, monotony is anohter.

and some of voodoo, for all its intrigue, seemed a bit too 'studied'. that albu was amazing in terms of the sound and atmosphere but not for the songs, which was disapointing. great tour though.

thirstinhowlVIII said:

I'm sure you probably think Kirk J. was a supurb drummer, too then. I'll say it again...?UESTLOVE SUCKS!!! ROYALLY!!! I understand that you don't have to be "flashy" in order to play, but give me something to work with other than a snare drum and hi-hat on the twos and fours.

BlaqueKnight said:

I agree. I am so sick of 'everybody sucks except Prince'. D's first album was a masterpiece.

okaypimpn said:[quote]

purpleone said:

yep. they're doing the writing. but d also got pino palladino (bass) and spanky (additional guitar) onboard again. and those two can funk i tell ya!

thirstinhowlVIII said:

co-sign.

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I'm sure you probably think Kirk J. was a supurb drummer, too then. I'll say it again...?UESTLOVE SUCKS!!! ROYALLY!!! I understand that you don't have to be "flashy" in order to play, but give me something to work with other than a snare drum and hi-hat on the twos and fours. [/quote]

i dont know who kirk j is

but i'll say it again... people are definitely underestimating ?uesto

i'm not saying he's the greatest drummer, cuz he's not, but he doesn't suck by no means
[This message was edited Mon Oct 13 9:39:34 PDT 2003 by Scrapluv]

purpleone said:[quote]

okaypimpn said:

have you heard who's playing drums or if they are going programmed?

BlaqueKnight said:

But the MN sound was actually something pretty original unlike this "Neo-soul" shit...
BTW WTF is "Neo-soul"??
All I hear is shitty singers doing the same stuff good singers did back in the 1960's and beyond... Neo-Soul can suck my ass with a straw...
These neo-soulers are just cheap and waaayyy less talented wannabe knock-offs of real soul artists (Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Al Green etc...)



Thank the hype-machine for that...
I just can't understand why people praise this guy, he hasn't made anything significant (just 2 unoriginal/mediocre albums in 10 years that just seem to drag...) and I don't see or hear anything that has been influenced by him, you're giving this D'angelo dick waayy too much credit...

Neversin.

purpleone said:[quote]

okaypimpn said:

Spanky is nasty on the axxe, but so is Jubu (who I'm praying is on there as well). I don't really see why Pino would be necessary for the album, considering that Raphael can play rings around him. Don't get me wrong, I think Pino is a good session player, but there's something about his basslines that just don't stand out enough...too "classical" for me. D needs those funky, gritty bassline like (I'm not trying to be funny) only a brother can produce! Flea's style of playing is so funky, I'm starting to question if he's got some black in 'em!!! I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the outcome is.

BlaqueKnight said:

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Not to many people ran to to record store to pick up Vodoo If D'Angelo can sell-out venues with no record out in ten years and still be listed as an influnce by other artist he will be a Prince's level. Until then we will have to wait and see.

okaypimpn said:

fuck no, i dont. questlove isnt one of the greatest drummers IMO. hes just one of the most famous. there arent that many well known drummers in black music, in the same way meg white or dave grohl are in rock. kirk was a crappy drummer, but quest is better than him. but i dont think youve heard the early roots records (organix, do you want more) where his drumming was a lot less repetitive, and more fun. now hes often just boring, overrated and frequently too self-congratulatory. hes still not half as bad as you make out though. what do you want from a drummer? technically brilliant but characterless, over-showy drumming like john blackwell? or unsubtle stadium rock bashing like michael bland? no thank you.

thirstinhowlVIII said:

I feel you and I'm not asking for much. Just straight-up talent. Sheila E. or Gene Lake could wipe the floor with ?uest and all of the above mentioned and they're not flashy at all.