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Thread started 08/24/03 9:31am

funkaholic1972

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TRC haters: Would you have liked the album without the voice-over and religious message?

Personally I think TRC rocks, especially musically. I really enjoy this album, it was a great return to form in my opinion. I have no problem with the lyrics, although I don't think they make much sense either.

But I'm not a native English speaker, so I don't really "hear" what he is singing when I play the album, In addition, it is just Prince expressing his beliefs, and I always try to respect other people's opinions. I don't have to agree with them in order to enjoy a person or his music.

Anyway, many people seem to have issues with the lyrical content and the voice-over and because of this, they are unable to enjoy this album.

My question to the TRC haters is this one: would you be able to enjoy the album if the voice-over and the religious message were not to be found on this album???

I ask this because personally I think the music kicks ass, the song are performed really well and musically interesting. It's too bad that people who like the music itself are turned off by the voice-over and lyrical content.
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[This message was edited Sun Aug 24 9:49:49 PDT 2003 by funkaholic1972]
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Reply #1 posted 08/24/03 9:36am

unremarkable

Yes.

I like the music, but don't believe in God and do not want to spend an album's worth of my time listening to Prince's deranged sermon.
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Reply #2 posted 08/24/03 9:38am

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I love The Rainbow Children album myself...in my opinion, it's one of his best-- in fact. it's one of his top 5 albums ever...the voice-over was definitely annoying in the beginning...it would be great to hear it WITHOUT the voice over for a change...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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Reply #3 posted 08/24/03 9:44am

Sweeny79

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In one word YES. nod
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Reply #4 posted 08/24/03 9:50am

Handclapsfinga
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it wouldn't make much difference to me, sans voice-overs and religious banter. i don't care for the album, and that's that.
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Reply #5 posted 08/24/03 9:52am

Pochacco

I have to agree with Handclaps on this one

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Reply #6 posted 08/24/03 9:53am

funkaholic1972

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Sweeny79 said:

In one word YES. nod


Does the religious message turn you off that much that you never listen to the album or are you still able to enjoy the music for what it is?
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Reply #7 posted 08/24/03 10:04am

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"Lovesexy: the feeling you get not when you fall in love with a boy or a girl, but the heavens above"

"With the accurate understand of God and his law they went about building the work of a new nation: The Rainbow Children"

Either way, it's all Prince's usual psychobabble layered with excellent music. TRC's lyrics just give the listener an impression of a more organized religion that's not overtly sexual. I really don't understand the hate, but if some don't like it, they just don't like it.
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Reply #8 posted 08/24/03 10:17am

Jem

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I dig the voice thing, I don't get why people are annoyed by it. Plus its a music thing to, the voice has notes and went well with the music. Whether the message was annoying or not, whatever.
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Reply #9 posted 08/24/03 10:18am

Jem

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I thought the deep voice at the begining and end of 1999 was annoying, didn't go at all with the music.
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Reply #10 posted 08/24/03 10:54am

TheMax

YES! And I suspect a few million other potential record buyers would agree.
"When they tell me 2 walk a straight line, I put on crooked shoes"
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Reply #11 posted 08/24/03 11:48am

Freaker

Yes. I dont mind the religious message within the song like in Last December but i did not like the voiceover and the JW ideas in it at all.

I still think fams wildly overrate it though.
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Reply #12 posted 08/24/03 12:52pm

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well, first off, i think that this mentality that thif you dont think it's the greatest you hate it is ridiculously extreme.

that having been said, i have very mixed feelings about it.

musically, it stands apart as one of his greatest albums. the music is lush, it's pretty much the onyl album f his i don't have to adjust my bass and tremble on to make it sound right, and it flows really well. this is some of his best playing and writing.

lyrically... well, i can handle a balance of the spirtual and corpulant, that is always one of the things that made him a genius. as song about god and beliefs would be prefaced by a song that was nasty and very sexual. it was balanced. this album lacks that. it is wildly off balance, just off in this almost entirely spiritual babble that half the time doesn't even make sense. but even that doesn't bother me half as much as:

THAT GOD DAMN VOICEOVER CRAP!! It's so unneccessary and aggravating. Most of the time it just distracts from the music and lyrics and more often then not i am sitting there trying to figure out what it is saying, and even more than that what the hell it is talking about.

the JW content doesn't really bother me either, as just because i am an athiest doesn't mean i can't enjoy it for the fiction it is. I see movies all the time, I don't need to feel like those are truth to enjoy them. I do hate how insanely preachy and thin veiled it is in it's propoganda, but hey... i can overlook that.


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Reply #13 posted 08/24/03 2:09pm

funkaholic1972

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TheMax said:

YES! And I suspect a few million other potential record buyers would agree.


A few millions would be a little too much I guess, since the music on TRC isn't exactly your standard top 40 material. But I guess if the lyrics were more profane and the voice-over was deleted, it could sell something like 1 million exemplaires, provided there was some money for payola, good distribution and some promotional gigs at TV shows by Prince and the NPG.
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Reply #14 posted 08/24/03 2:22pm

Tom

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I enjoy the music on TRC. If it was an instrumental, I wouldn't have much of a problem with it at all. I don't like the cocky, overt and condescending preaching in it.
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Reply #15 posted 08/24/03 2:34pm

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I love The Rainbow Children album myself...in my opinion, it's one of his best-- in fact. it's one of his top 5 albums ever...the voice-over was definitely annoying in the beginning...it would be great to hear it WITHOUT the voice over for a change...


4 me, it ISNT the religious tone of the album (although it IS a little heavy-handed at times) it is that bloody slowed-down vocodered voice. It gave me that feeling of when someone is talking thru a movie that has your attention:
'SHUT UP ALREADY!' (damn) lol
It worked 4 the intro, sure - but it just detracted from the rest of the album. It didnt need it.
He however, obviously thought it did - and proceeded 2 smother it thickly and with great abandon across a great album. One of the downsides 2 Prince is that He has the inability 2 stop fiddling, and step back from his work and set it free.
However, these small niggles aside, I think (much like ATWIAD) this album (although a small, realease with little fanfare) will in later years really be looked back on as something unique and special.

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Reply #16 posted 08/25/03 4:53am

Cloudbuster

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I've always enjoyed the music, it was his most playful album in years. But aside from the voiceover and the lyrics (which are not to my taste), the songs are pretty tuneless and dull.
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Reply #17 posted 08/25/03 9:54am

TheEnglishGent

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I love the album and have grown to not mind the voice over too much now. What I can't stand though is that first part of family name with the computer voiced black or white/this or that rant.
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Reply #18 posted 08/25/03 9:58am

cborgman

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Plus, can I jsut say that the line "the opposite of NATO is OTAN" is probabyl the dumbest lyric I have ever hears, and yes I am counting "who let the dogs out?"

Yes, Prince, the opposite of nato IS otan, and the opposite of cool is these crap lyrics!
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Reply #19 posted 08/25/03 2:45pm

cebenspe

I like TRC, don't care if there are religion messages in it, but I admit that they God-like voice sounds weird. Maybe if he'd use a different voice, it's sound much better.
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Reply #20 posted 08/27/03 12:25pm

carmy

I love the '' trc ''' album.
It's good to hear something with a religous outlook, compared to what you hear everyday. Could have done without the overvoice though.
Sorry for the spelling,
Carmy
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Reply #21 posted 08/27/03 12:32pm

Universaluv

The voice-over is a distraction for me. I didn't think I cared for that album until I heard him perform the tracks live, sans most of the voice-over.
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