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Thread started 08/22/03 9:44pm

lastdecember

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Most "PLAYED OUT" complaints

Well IM sure we have all heard these arguments from people.
One of my faves is the "Prince needs to be more commercial" to regain his TOP 40 and album sales. Can we bury this shit argument already, do u really want PRINCE in a top 10 with the BAD BOYS II soundtrack, Ashanti and Chingy and of course Fifty Cent. Lets face it, PRINCE could never sell to the kids that buy the majority of CDS today, they would have to actually think while they listen and that aint going to happen. And yes I would rather PRINCE play with MACEO AND LARRY then duet with FIFTY CENT to a NEPTUNE beat to have a "hit" in these times.
And another thing that annoys me is that complaint we all hear about how PRINCE doesnt make money, OK lets bury his right now. I manage in Retail ad work with company buyers, Princes Latest NEWS sells to "stores" at a price of 13.98 per cd. Now even if PRINCE after manufacturing costs clears about half of that, 7 dollars a CD at retail is unheard of for any artist, even if PRINCE only sells 25,000 of these to retail thats still a nice piece of change, not counting the Cd copies sold to NPGMC members. So cut the crap already, Prince is getting Paid, and even if he wasnt, when did we all become his accountants or Business manager. So stop all these lame arguments, lets bury them all FACE DOWN like PRINCE buried 1999.

PEACE


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Reply #1 posted 08/22/03 9:50pm

Muffy

That's True. Prince is in a League of his Own and he doesn't have to be a Rap Dude and all. But if he wanted to do that again well all he would need was some Sexy dancing girls cheering him on.
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Reply #2 posted 08/22/03 9:51pm

lovebizzare

i can think of a few more:

1. he isn't funky anymore

2. he doesn't cuss anymore

3. he hasn't colaborated with wendy & lisa (this one takes the cake)

4. he hangs out with larry grahm

5. he isn't sexual anymore

6. he doesn't sing anymore (this one is fairly new, but still annoying)

that's a few
[This message was edited Fri Aug 22 21:52:19 PDT 2003 by lovebizzare]
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Reply #3 posted 08/22/03 9:53pm

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My favorite: "If only he'd start listening to his fans"
[This message was edited Fri Aug 22 21:53:23 PDT 2003 by rainbowchild]
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Reply #4 posted 08/22/03 10:29pm

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lastdecember said:

Well IM sure we have all heard these arguments from people.

One of my faves is the "Prince needs to be more commercial" to regain his TOP 40 and album sales. Can we bury this shit argument already, do u really want PRINCE in a top 10 with the BAD BOYS II soundtrack, Ashanti and Chingy and of course Fifty Cent.

Lets face it, PRINCE could never sell to the kids that buy the majority of CDS today, they would have to actually think while they listen and that aint going to happen.

And yes I would rather PRINCE play with MACEO AND LARRY then duet with FIFTY CENT to a NEPTUNE beat to have a "hit" in these times...


I agree with this. INEP-TUNES and Chitty and 50 Pesos and all that crap, right!

Top 40 is over. It's all Coca Cola and Disney now, forget it.

And I do think Prince realizes this. It's a different Pop music scene and it's just not for Prince anymore. Which cool.
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Reply #5 posted 08/22/03 10:32pm

LaMont

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lastdecember said:

Well IM sure we have all heard these arguments from people.
One of my faves is the "Prince needs to be more commercial" to regain his TOP 40 and album sales. Can we bury this shit argument already, do u really want PRINCE in a top 10 with the BAD BOYS II soundtrack, Ashanti and Chingy and of course Fifty Cent. Lets face it, PRINCE could never sell to the kids that buy the majority of CDS today, they would have to actually think while they listen and that aint going to happen. And yes I would rather PRINCE play with MACEO AND LARRY then duet with FIFTY CENT to a NEPTUNE beat to have a "hit" in these times.
And another thing that annoys me is that complaint we all hear about how PRINCE doesnt make money, OK lets bury his right now. I manage in Retail ad work with company buyers, Princes Latest NEWS sells to "stores" at a price of 13.98 per cd. Now even if PRINCE after manufacturing costs clears about half of that, 7 dollars a CD at retail is unheard of for any artist, even if PRINCE only sells 25,000 of these to retail thats still a nice piece of change, not counting the Cd copies sold to NPGMC members. So cut the crap already, Prince is getting Paid, and even if he wasnt, when did we all become his accountants or Business manager. So stop all these lame arguments, lets bury them all FACE DOWN like PRINCE buried 1999.

PEACE


"it took ONE NITE ALONE to witness THE BEAUTY OF DAWN" a film about finding THE ONE TRUTH...coming soon.




Preach, brother, preach! I like the way that you are putting it down. Let's get some truth up in this bitch to counter the ignorance and hate.
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Reply #6 posted 08/22/03 11:15pm

lmas

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rainbowchild said:

My favorite: "If only he'd start listening to his fans"
[This message was edited Fri Aug 22 21:53:23 PDT 2003 by rainbowchild]




Here is one I hate. I HATE IT SO MUCH. This one cat was talking about the new DVD and says and I quote: "...we deserve better Prince!"

and if I were Prince I would say to that orger, (I think it was some cat called "Rainbowchild" or something,) "Why do U deserve better, I have only played for you for the last 25 years from the top to the bottom, I am the fuckin best"
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Reply #7 posted 08/23/03 12:18am

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how about this one:

"fans who have opnions,even negative,& they arent fans & should shut up & go away because they arent up Prince's ass"
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Reply #8 posted 08/23/03 9:56am

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but to be fair he is a different person from the one that got me drawn into his music.
you can accpet that they days are over but you can still
miss him.
Or does that touch a nerve with some fans in here.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #9 posted 08/23/03 11:12am

Dan

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Hey Love Bizzare! R u trying 2 tell me Prince a'int funky?!!
Have a word with urself man!!
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Reply #10 posted 08/23/03 11:35am

Neversin

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LaMont said:

Let's get some truth up in this bitch to counter the ignorance and hate.

LMMFBA-WAAAYYY-O!!!
You're the one always spouting ignorant bullshit and hate man...
Open your fucking eyes my man...

Neversin.
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Reply #11 posted 08/23/03 11:39am

StinkyWeaselTe
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My top 8:

1. Prince isn't a good businessman. Duh? rolleyes
2. Prince should leave the jazz/instrumentals alone.
3. Prince doesn't service his fans with quality product. the money for extravagant artwork, superior digitial quality, etc probably went down the drain once ties were severed with Warner. Name one independent artist who does these things with independent money and I'll remove it from my list
4. Prince doesn't service his fans with enough product.
5. The influence of Jehovah's Witnesses have ruined Prince personally and musically.
6. Prince doesn't listen to the fans. despite releasing the jazz, acoustic guitar, piano and live and vault material which has been requested in the past 7 years
7. How dare Prince even ask for my bootlegs. if the thought of it wasn't reasonable, it should have been ignored by those who felt it was a dumb request. It's not like Prince or any representative of Paisley Park/NPGMC said they were going to come and ransack your homes for the material
8. Where's the ___ album he promised (i.e. Roadhouse Garden, 7 Disc Sampling set) if you're still waiting on these project you should also be waiting for copies of the proposed live Controversy album with the supporting live video
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Reply #12 posted 08/23/03 12:02pm

jtgillia

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My #1: NEWS/Xpectation is "elevator music"/boring
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Reply #13 posted 08/23/03 12:11pm

Neversin

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StinkyWeaselTeats said:

My top 8:

1. Prince isn't a good businessman. Duh? rolleyes
2. Prince should leave the jazz/instrumentals alone.
3. Prince doesn't service his fans with quality product. the money for extravagant artwork, superior digitial quality, etc probably went down the drain once ties were severed with Warner. Name one independent artist who does these things with independent money and I'll remove it from my list

Ani Difranco and heaps of others (but y'all probably never heard of em since y'all probably think Prince was the first and only independant artist out there... You probably think he's being "innovative" again, but like he said on his recent tour he much rather be a "follower")
...And "superior digital quality"??!! Give me a fucking break man, his cd's arent even HDCD's... So much for the "superior digital quality"... And I don't see anything extravagant about his artwork, I only see cheap made, easily broken slipcases/digipacks...

8. Where's the ___ album he promised (i.e. Roadhouse Garden, 7 Disc Sampling set) if you're still waiting on these project you should also be waiting for copies of the proposed live Controversy album with the supporting live video

The Controversy live video and album were never promised, BTW these are already out there...

Neversin.
[This message was edited Sat Aug 23 12:27:33 PDT 2003 by Neversin]
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Reply #14 posted 08/23/03 12:38pm

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Neversin said:

StinkyWeaselTeats said:

My top 8:

1. Prince isn't a good businessman. Duh? rolleyes
2. Prince should leave the jazz/instrumentals alone.
3. Prince doesn't service his fans with quality product. the money for extravagant artwork, superior digitial quality, etc probably went down the drain once ties were severed with Warner. Name one independent artist who does these things with independent money and I'll remove it from my list

Ani Difranco and heaps of others (but y'all probably never heard of em since y'all probably think Prince was the first and only independant artist out there... You probably think he's being "innovative" again, but like he said on his recent tour he much rather be a "follower")
...And "superior digital quality"??!! Give me a fucking break man, his cd's arent even HDCD's... So much for the "superior digital quality"... And I don't see anything extravagant about his artwork, I only cheap made, easily broken slipcases...


I've got some of Ani's shit and it's not much different. She makes basic ass cds like any other independent artist. I know Prince isn't the first independent artist. But without the financial backing of a mutli-million dollar record company he's going to cut costs by any means necessary like the rest of average do-it-yourselvers. The average consumer of music wants a regular ass cd you can pop into your stereo or your car with no hiss. When I'm in the record store, I don't see many people bitching because what they want is not HDCD. If you want the music, then you accept it how it is. As a matter of fact, I'm going to pop over to a Pearl Jam board and see if there's as much bitching about artwork, quality and set-lists. If there isn't I'll make a fake name and start one.

8. Where's the ___ album he promised (i.e. Roadhouse Garden, 7 Disc Sampling set) if you're still waiting on these project you should also be waiting for copies of the proposed live Controversy album with the supporting live video

The Controversy live video and album were never promised, BTW these are already out there... [/quote]

Roadhouse Garden and 7 Disc Sampling Sets were never "promised" The sampling set was advertised with "coming soon", which was not a good business tactic but it wasn't promised. The point is we would have never known what the fuck we could have had during the Warner years if it weren't for Per Nielsen's research. Knowing the type of decision maker Prince is I wouldn't bitch about Roadhouse Garden especially if The Flesh Sessions never saw the light of day.
[This message was edited Sat Aug 23 12:40:22 PDT 2003 by StinkyWeaselTeats]
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Reply #15 posted 08/23/03 12:55pm

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Name one independent artist who does these things with independent money and I'll remove it from my list [/i]

Easy Enough... Ani DiFranco
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Reply #16 posted 08/23/03 12:57pm

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oh, never mind, i see you already ignored that one
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Reply #17 posted 08/23/03 12:58pm

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cborgman said:

oh, never mind, i see you already ignored that one


Then explain yourself. Help my ignorant ass to see the difference. What's so different in your opinion?
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Reply #18 posted 08/23/03 1:00pm

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StinkyWeaselTeats said:

The point is we would have never known what the fuck we could have had during the Warner years if it weren't for Per Nielsen's research.

Not to take anything away from Per Nielsen, he is a great researcher, but he isn't the only one researching Prince's past projects...

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Reply #19 posted 08/23/03 1:05pm

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Neversin said:

StinkyWeaselTeats said:

The point is we would have never known what the fuck we could have had during the Warner years if it weren't for Per Nielsen's research.

Not to take anything away from Per Nielsen, he is a great researcher, but he isn't the only one researching Prince's past projects...

Neversin.


I'm not saying he is the only researcher. But he is however the only one who has brought indepth information which details recording dates and proposed albums without yellow journalism tactics. My point is without someone doing the research, we wouldn't have known shit about what might have been. Just because Prince is a little more talkative these days doesn't mean he won't change his mind at the drop of a dime about proposed releases.
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Reply #20 posted 08/23/03 11:57pm

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Joshy said:

how about this one:

"fans who have opnions,even negative,& they arent fans & should shut up & go away because they arent up Prince's ass"



"Smart" comments work better if you can spell and type properly.
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Reply #21 posted 08/24/03 8:20am

StinkyWeaselTe
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fauxnewbie said:

Joshy said:

how about this one:

"fans who have opnions,even negative,& they arent fans & should shut up & go away because they arent up Prince's ass"



"Smart" comments work better if you can spell and type properly.


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