I like Daddy Pop... so shoot me.

KingSausage said:

Totally agree on this!

Does anyone remember before this album came out,there was a rumor that Lisa Bonet would be directing a video for "Walk Don't Walk"? Did it ever materialize?

I really dont know why sott sold poorly and diamonds and pearls sold over 5 millions around the world!!!

Basically it was an album made with a commercial mind. Prince wanted to be played on the radio again, he wanted to be on top of the charts. It acheived that, and spawned several prince classics.

I think its a perfectly good album, a bit of filler maybe (Jughead , Push), but if you think this is worse than Rave, Chaos & Disorder, NEWS, New Power Soul, Graffiti Bridge etc...well I cant understand that one.

I think o(+> is better as an album, but i kinda view them as volumes I & II. Similar sound. My top songs from the album:

1. Get Off
2. Diamonds & Pearls
3. Money Dont MAtter 2Night
4. Strolling
5. Cream
6. Thunder
7. Walk Dont Walk
8. Daddy Pop
9. Willing & Able
10. Insatiable

It would have been an amazing album if he'd put Open Book and Love Thy Will Be Done on there, they're 2 of my favourites...great pop songs.

I never understood why people say the symbol album is just like a sequel to this one. The only similarities I've ever seen between the two was Prince building on the foundation of hip-hop he laid down on the former (more Tony M, augh). The production of the Symbol album seems to be so much louder and in your face. Diamonds and Pearls comes off as a shallow pop album to me, that could've almost been an album from most any pop artist in '90 or '91. Except for maybe the song "Thunder"...

CrozzaUK said:

imo it should've been:

01. thunder
02. cream
03. diamonds & pearls
04. walk don't walk
05. willing and able
06. get off
07. strollin'
08. money don't matter 2night
09. live 4 love

'jughead', 'push' and 'insatiable' are tracks i mostly skip when playing this record.

'daddy pop' is cool, but not good enough imo.

the first few minutes are cool, but the raps in the song are pure shite.

also, i can do without tony's rap on 'live 4 love'.

prince should've kept the bridge from the original demo.

I like D+P and still play it regularly. Aside from it being the first Prince album I actually listened to throughout and read the lyrics (prior to that I had concentrated on his "hits"), I thought then, and still think, that the musicianship and, yes, "the production" is first rate. Sure it' may not be funky-raw as much of his other stuff, but don't we agree that "change is good" (or does that only apply to his becoming a JW, or when we have to justify our cult-like admiration for someone who has lost his mass appeal?).

Anyway, whether D+P was "commercial" or not is secondary to the fact that all but a few of the songs are widely loved by many fans. To this, I'd add that the contribution of Rosie Gaines alone makes this a special album. Lastly, the lyrics on many of the songs are very relevant, particularly Live 4 love (don't forget it was recorded during the first war in Iraq) and Jughead (force yourself to just read the words).

Its an excellent album and a great comeback too.
Songs have rarely ever been so meaningful as Money Dont Matter, Live 4 Love or so romantic as Insatiable.
A jewel and u should delete this thread immediately and complain about an album worth complaining about like NPS (except the brilliant Until u'r in my arms again)



If you are looking at Worst album categories, look at New power Soul.

Freaker said:

I'm not complaining, I'm just giving my personal opinion about this album. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion and as a matter of fact, I might even like NPS better than D&P...

I quite like Diamonds and Pearls. It's a good straightforward
album with clean production, and still room enough for some
more unusual tracks like Thunder, Strollin' & Willing and Able.
The only things that I really think should have been changed
are cutting the 'manager rant' off the end of Jughead, and
he should have included the longer 5:30 edit of Gett Off on
the album instead of the single edit.

I have to admit I have a soft spot for D&P cuz it was the album that got me into Prince in the first place and it will probably always be my favorite for a few reasons:
1. It marked a pretty big transition for him sound-wise. He went from a lot more electronically based stuff like Sign to having the vibe of a whole band, even on the stuff like Jughead. Real instruments replaced synthesizers in many cases and when there were synths, they sounded a lot better (chalk it up to technology getting better but still...).
2. He changed his image quite a bit too which was probably to make it seem like he was a whole new artist when coupled with his new sound. I think he had brass balls for changing as much as he did from Graffiti Bridge to D&P.
3. YEah, it WAS commercial, but c'mon, Purple Rain wasn't? How about Around The World...?
4.The craftsmanship on D&P is amazing from the sounds they got, to the arrangements, and even the packaging. It's one of those albums that doesn't come out every day much like Metallica's "Black Album" or The Police's "Synchronicity." Now before everyone jumps out with their "Metallica/Sting sucks!" responses, go listen to those albums, I mean REALLY listen to them. The sounds, the music, the words, the artwork...just a perfect marriage of everything that makes up an album in the right proportions. That's what D&P is. It's funky, rockin', swingin', mellow...there's something for every mood on there. You could put it on at a party or kick back with your girl to it. And it's one of those rare albums (for me anyways) that I hear something new every time I listen to it, even after listening to it for 10+ years it still interests me and my tastes have changed radically since I first got into it! It sold a ton of copies while being musically interesting and lyrically deep (on certain songs anyway) This doens't usually happen and i think that for that reason alone, D&P is one of his best. Purple Rain sold more copies but in my mind wasn't as interesting musically as D&P was (with the title track being the only exception) while TRC might be the most musically interesting album of the bunch but didn't sell worth a shit. I think D&P is kinda like Prince's "Revolver."

Thunder, Gett Off, Insatiable and Live 4 Love are the only jams i like on D&P.I've felt that way a long time.

When it first came out, i liked it all (except Jughead!). I guess I was glad to see Prince hitting the top 10 again after the failure of Graffiti Bridge, and without the help of a Batman soundtrack.

BlaqueKnight said:

i agree b-knight. (whassup man?)

KingSausage said:

I totally agree and co-sing what KingSausage and Funkaholic r saying.
It's an outoffashioned album (xcept 4 Gett off) which stands 4 so many 90ies productions which I can't stand.
I really do prefer the last things he'd done and the songs he did 4 the NPGMC.
Much 2 clean and I do really hate some of the 90ies products ever made ...

BorisFishpaw said:

I agree with everything you said.

The versio of 'Willing ans Able' taken from the D&P video collection is amazing. Prince is on fine vocal form. The band sound organic aswell.

Marrk said:

Graffiti Bridge was a UK no.1 album with one top ten single - Thieves In The Temple (no.7).

Diamonds & Pearls was a UK no.2 album with one top ten single - Gett Off (no.4).

However, Graffiti Bridge only managed 8 weeks on the chart while Diamonds & Pearls managed 57.

This album was Prince's attempt to prove he had commercial appeal AGAIN. Graffiti Bridge didn't do so good and so LIL MAN had to proved that he could still go platinum PLUS...the result is a fun commercial record. The album sold like hotcakes...this in turn prompted WB to offer Prince that big contract/deal/package that turned out to be the beginning of the "dark age" between him and Warners.

Cloudbuster said:

Mmm, i remember. Even though i'm in the UK, i was thinking in terms of worldwide.In the US, Diamonds and Pearls (the single) was a No1.I'd presume Gett Off hit top ten.I'd say D&P was his most successful album in awhile.

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[This message was edited Mon Aug 25 5:14:54 PDT 2003 by Marrk]

Marrk said:

Diamonds & Pearls (both single and album) hit US no.3 on the pop chart, both hit no.1 on the R&B chart.

Cream hit US no.1 on the pop chart but didn't make the R&B chart.

Gett Off hit US no.21 on the pop chart , no.6 on the R&B chart.

Worldwide, D&P sold about 5m more than GB.
[This message was edited Sun Aug 31 10:44:16 PDT 2003 by Cloudbuster]

I was really impressed with the promotion of this album.Months before this album came out,Prince and Warners chose the singles and filmed the videos.Prince made a ton of cool TV appearances (MTV Videos Awards,Arsenio Hall,etc).This created a "buzz".I had heard that Prince hired Michael Jackson's old manager Frank Dileo to assist the Warner promotional team.Prince noticed that Jackson routinely had a slew of big hits from each of his albums,and felt that he could do the same with proper promotion.

Nethertheless...Graffiti Bridge is better...in my oppinion