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Thread started 07/30/03 9:26pm

liberation

Prince needs a manager

Seriously folks, this shit ain't cool no more. His business practices are a joke and it's starting to reflect on him as an artist.

His attempt at a music club has been nothing but a public relations nightmare for Paisley Park Enterprises. You can't deny the fact that the majority of fans are not at all happy with what the club has delivered to them, on many levels.

It is not just about giving music to fans, it's about communication and straight talk, i am sure if Amazon.com had products on sale and they failed to deliver customers would move on in droves.

What is needed is a wholesale cleanout of all the sheep and YES men, he needs to communicate with people who are grounded in reality.

The potential of a music club is enormous, he has a vast array of recordings which the fans would eat up, he could make all the money he wanted.

All it needs is someone to go in there and take the music out and let them do what is needed to get a quality product into the hands of fans.

Many have said before that all he would need to do is send a couple of CDR's per month to someone, mass produce that...have fans design the artwork and mail it out.

Two/three releases every two months is enough, anything he wants...old soundboards, rehearsals, jams...preferably outtakes.

What fans really want is old music, old...Revolution era, all they ask is that you leave it alone, no edits or cuss words removed.

Put aside the religious overtones and let the fans enjoy your work, even if it's not where you're at right now.

It's not much to ask, it's a drop in the ocean compared to what the vault has to offer.

Please Prince, FOR ONCE do things right and what we want.
[This message was edited Wed Jul 30 21:38:34 PDT 2003 by liberation]
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Reply #1 posted 07/30/03 9:32pm

Sdldawn

Couldnt agree more.. but he is just too stuborn, he's always been like that, and its even worse it seems these days. Well, I might add that he needs a producer, not to dictate his music in a sense, but he's gotta get back on track as far as im concerned.
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Reply #2 posted 07/30/03 9:34pm

pacey68

I just want NEW music that is good and will be played again. Not just something added to my collection and forgotten about.
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Reply #3 posted 07/30/03 9:50pm

dnaplaya

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The prefix of "Manager" is "MAN"
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Reply #4 posted 07/30/03 9:59pm

Sdldawn

dnaplaya said:

The prefix of "Manager" is "MAN"

gee thanks.. wink
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/03 10:26pm

TerryD

The word manager contains the word "anger" and give me that 20% man.

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Reply #6 posted 07/30/03 11:18pm

Sdldawn

TerryD said:

The word manager contains the word "anger" and give me that 20% man.

http://www.musicbuilder.c...fault.asp#



Well, the word "The" contains the word "He" and the word "word" could actually contains "wo" for "whoa" and the word "contain" has the prefix of "con" not to mention the word "on" and if you replace the T with P, the hidden significance of that could actually be "Pain" and also if you switch the wording of "man", you get the word "NAM", perhaps for Vietnam?


See what I mean, Prince and his crew keeps up with this sh*t throughout life he's gonna get no'where.


Prince talked about liking the matrix right? Probably cause he created one for his own life.

Stupid thinking edit.
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Reply #7 posted 07/31/03 12:03am

Romance1600

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He's needed a manager ever since he got rid of them.
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Reply #8 posted 07/31/03 12:37am

sabaisabai

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Prince needs a manager...

For what?
I can make you... Money minders are like parasites
They pose and wheelers and
Dealers for your rights. And most
Companies say that you need em!
Not me... But I've kicked back, observed, and
I'm honest... Watched 'em bleed 'em
Artists young and old
I can bring you to the top! Where'd this unwritten law come from anyway?
That years after the contract you should
Still be gettin' paid? Boy, I go broke
And hit the skids before I take care of
A rich sucker's kids. Hell,
My contract... A contract ain't no pension plan,
My contract... Years after this my kids are still
Gonna make the grand.
Prince, you... And you laugh at my brother Little Richard
When he says you ain't gave him nothing.
Let's leave him out of this Hell, that ain't no joke.
His songs are still sellin', that man
Could die broke. So fellow artists,
U need me... Push for yours, and watch for
Mr. Money Minder, as we settle the score.
Prince...
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #9 posted 07/31/03 1:22am

DavidEye

Yes,Prince needs a manager but let's face it,he ain't gonna listen to him.
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Reply #10 posted 07/31/03 1:37am

roverlo

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Maybe not a manager, but he should accept someone or a couple of people in his neighbourhood that are not afraid to tell him to shut the fuck up and play that guitar... wink

When you are surrounded by asskissing "yes sir" peeps you start to loose the game.
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Reply #11 posted 07/31/03 1:38am

Joshy

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what he needs is something commercial,something that will work EVERY nite!
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Reply #12 posted 07/31/03 2:09am

freakyfeet

sabaisabai said:

Prince needs a manager...

For what?
I can make you... Money minders are like parasites
They pose and wheelers and
Dealers for your rights. And most
Companies say that you need em!
Not me... But I've kicked back, observed, and
I'm honest... Watched 'em bleed 'em
Artists young and old
I can bring you to the top! Where'd this unwritten law come from anyway?
That years after the contract you should
Still be gettin' paid? Boy, I go broke
And hit the skids before I take care of
A rich sucker's kids. Hell,
My contract... A contract ain't no pension plan,
My contract... Years after this my kids are still
Gonna make the grand.
Prince, you... And you laugh at my brother Little Richard
When he says you ain't gave him nothing.
Let's leave him out of this Hell, that ain't no joke.
His songs are still sellin', that man
Could die broke. So fellow artists,
U need me... Push for yours, and watch for
Mr. Money Minder, as we settle the score.
Prince...


erm - didn't Prince's sales drop dramatically AFTER that awful Jughead came out ? Thanks for reminding us !!!

Shit - for ages I was thinking you were Larry in disguise and I was wrong - you're really Tony M aren't you ? !!!

Are the NPGMC forums still closed or something ?
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Reply #13 posted 07/31/03 5:29am

Marrk

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freakyfeet said:

sabaisabai said:

Prince needs a manager...

For what?
I can make you... Money minders are like parasites
They pose and wheelers and
Dealers for your rights. And most
Companies say that you need em!
Not me... But I've kicked back, observed, and
I'm honest... Watched 'em bleed 'em
Artists young and old
I can bring you to the top! Where'd this unwritten law come from anyway?
That years after the contract you should
Still be gettin' paid? Boy, I go broke
And hit the skids before I take care of
A rich sucker's kids. Hell,
My contract... A contract ain't no pension plan,
My contract... Years after this my kids are still
Gonna make the grand.
Prince, you... And you laugh at my brother Little Richard
When he says you ain't gave him nothing.
Let's leave him out of this Hell, that ain't no joke.
His songs are still sellin', that man
Could die broke. So fellow artists,
U need me... Push for yours, and watch for
Mr. Money Minder, as we settle the score.
Prince...


erm - didn't Prince's sales drop dramatically AFTER that awful Jughead came out ? Thanks for reminding us !!!

Shit - for ages I was thinking you were Larry in disguise and I was wrong - you're really Tony M aren't you ? !!!

Are the NPGMC forums still closed or something ?



falloff

Times must be grim if people start quoting jughead.
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Reply #14 posted 07/31/03 5:36am

Thierry

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So he needs a manager... Where do I sign?

And yes, he's gonna listen to me... else I'll sit on him... and I'm a fat bastard!

I'd be like, "Yo! Sign that big Sony deal right now, or I'll Bellyrub you ones more!"
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Reply #15 posted 07/31/03 8:06am

jackflash

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sabaisabai said:

Prince needs a manager...

For what?
I can make you... Money minders are like parasites
They pose and wheelers and
Dealers for your rights. And most
Companies say that you need em!
Not me... But I've kicked back, observed, and
I'm honest... Watched 'em bleed 'em
Artists young and old
I can bring you to the top! Where'd this unwritten law come from anyway?
That years after the contract you should
Still be gettin' paid? Boy, I go broke
And hit the skids before I take care of
A rich sucker's kids. Hell,
My contract... A contract ain't no pension plan,
My contract... Years after this my kids are still
Gonna make the grand.
Prince, you... And you laugh at my brother Little Richard
When he says you ain't gave him nothing.
Let's leave him out of this Hell, that ain't no joke.
His songs are still sellin', that man
Could die broke. So fellow artists,
U need me... Push for yours, and watch for
Mr. Money Minder, as we settle the score.
Prince...


You hit it, Sab. Funny how the words can get overlooked 'cause other parts of the song piss you off. I always liked this part of "Jughead" (and I also like "Style" as well).
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Reply #16 posted 07/31/03 8:15am

kisscamille

Prince needs something. Liberation is right! I don't know if it's a manager that he needs, but he definitely needs some help running his website, the music club etc. He seems so blinded by religion these days and it is having a negative effect on his businesses music. I wish he would get rid of all the YES men and get people on board that could really help him have a successful music club etc.
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Reply #17 posted 07/31/03 9:42am

PurpleLove7

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The Fans r the Best people 2 think what P should do about this or about that. we'LL tell him The Truth!

if Prince asked me a SERIOUS Question of what he should do with Paisley, The NPGMC & his Music i'd say listen 2 The NPGMC Fans & The Orgerz who Love him & his Music.

we'll tell him what time it REALLY is! u know!?!?!
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Reply #18 posted 07/31/03 9:44am

familygroove

liberation said:

Seriously folks, this shit ain't cool no more. His business practices are a joke and it's starting to reflect on him as an artist.



Only just recently? lol
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Reply #19 posted 07/31/03 9:57am

SANSKER7

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dnaplaya said:

The prefix of "Manager" is "MAN"



Yeah, like "hey MAN, get off your ass and put out some really funky shit that people want to buy!".

You mean that kinda of prefix right?


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Reply #20 posted 07/31/03 9:59am

Universaluv

IMO, this is just another disguised thread in the ever running "Prince should open the vault" campaign. I guess, sure that'd
be great, but don't hold your breath.
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Reply #21 posted 08/05/03 3:24am

Thierry

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Universaluv said:

IMO, this is just another disguised thread in the ever running "Prince should open the vault" campaign. I guess, sure that'd
be great, but don't hold your breath.



Allright we won't... but we can hope, can't we.

And who knows... maybe he reads this... and thinks... Damn... I want a bellyrub!
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Reply #22 posted 08/05/03 4:10am

JC

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he
seriously
needs
a 24/7
reality
counselor
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Reply #23 posted 08/05/03 8:10am

Thierry

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JC said:

he
seriously
needs
a 24/7
reality
counselor


Nobody needs that... too much counseling going on these days!
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Reply #24 posted 08/27/03 10:19am

mattosgood

liberation said:[quote]Seriously folks, this shit ain't cool no more. His business practices are a joke and it's starting to reflect on him as an artist.

His attempt at a music club has been nothing but a public relations nightmare for Paisley Park Enterprises. You can't deny the fact that the majority of fans are not at all happy with what the club has delivered to them, on many levels.

It is not just about giving music to fans, it's about communication and straight talk, i am sure if Amazon.com had products on sale and they failed to deliver customers would move on in droves.



Regardless of the issues and teething problems - from someone who works in marketing - as far as the club goes in delivering real value and real closeness - it is the best example of customer relationship marketing I have ever seen. I have on many occasion used the club as a great example or CRM to clients and in interviews. If a FMCG brand could deliver what the NPGMC delivers the brand mangers would be over the moon.


That said yes he does need am manager of some kind.
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Reply #25 posted 08/27/03 5:02pm

LaMont

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Every post that starts off with "Prince needs..." is automatic shit and thus I wil dismiss this crap immediately.
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Reply #26 posted 08/27/03 5:08pm

Handclapsfinga
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LaMont said:

Every post that starts off with "Prince needs..." is automatic shit and thus I wil dismiss this crap immediately.

umm, you didn't dismiss this...hmm
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Reply #27 posted 08/27/03 5:10pm

Muffy

Prince Needs somebody like me MUFFY to help him with what is Cool and what is Fun. A Manager huh? All I can say is he needs Alot more Sex so Mani if you Gotta Well You Gotta Do It Much More and Much Better and Much Harder. Stroke that Mutherfucking Man will YA!
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Reply #28 posted 08/27/03 5:55pm

squirrelgrease

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LaMont said:

Every post that starts off with "Prince needs..." is automatic shit and thus I wil dismiss this crap immediately.


Prince needs... more Fams like you.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #29 posted 08/27/03 6:26pm

LadyCabDriver

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

LaMont said:

Every post that starts off with "Prince needs..." is automatic shit and thus I wil dismiss this crap immediately.

umm, you didn't dismiss this...hmm

don't bother; he's an idiot.
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