That's it.

I'd say you were wrong,
if just for the simple fact that you're 100% correct!!

It sure does !

i wont dispute that

euhm.. don't agree...
it's ok...
not a failure..
good musicianship...
intresting ...

but "kick ass"??? defintely not!

thank God, some people know how 2 listen GOOD music!

zobilamouche said:

Put on your headphones and check out the mid part of west
(just after the rain sets in)! Man if that fhunk does not "kick ass" then either you or me need an earcheck !

Fhunkin said:

Or the mid part of East. Blissful sounds, and if some folks can't hear it then they need they're ears checked!

What I mean is that it's not groundbreaking at all. It's a good piece of music but not pushing any bounderies except that it's a bit of a new format for him.

Kick-ass for me would be something overwhelmingly different and new. This record is musically actually quite conservative but of a good level, and a kind hardly to be put out now by any artist; but it doesn't redifine the current music scene or crushes any sort of taboos or preconceptions in music.

It's just a fine record... I would recommend people to have a listen; but I wouldn't go all euphoric over it.
[This message was edited Wed Aug 6 2:56:04 PDT 2003 by zobilamouche]

sabaisabai said:

btw, I like the east part a lot ... it's just that before i would call something a "kick-ass" album, it should "really" kick ass.

Kick-ass for me would be something overwhelmingly different and new. This record is musically actually quite conservative but of a good level, and a kind hardly to be put out now by any artist; but it doesn't redifine the current music scene or crushes any sort of taboos or preconceptions in music.



well, in some strange, torned way IT'S different and new..i don't think other "pop" artist would dare to publish such a work...

For the last decade, prince has lost a huge portion of his audience, hardly ever made a hit,so I don't think you can still talk about him as a "pop(ular)" artist.
He's not risking losing his audience because except for a core set of fans, evryone's long gone.

zobilamouche said:
He's not risking losing his audience because except for a core set of fans, evryone's long gone.


that's make perfect sense..but a 4 tracks record with 15 minutes long songs it's very peculiar..don't you think so ?

It might be peculiar but doesn't really give any added value to the music, does it?

zobilamouche said:
It might be peculiar but doesn't really give any added value to the music, does it?


please, live me a chance..i'm disperately trying to find something special in this record!

lol!
But it's good music! It's just not grounbreaking or kick-ass for me...

zobilamouche said:
lol!
But it's good music! It's just not grounbreaking or kick-ass for me...


i agree, but we have to face the fact that a lot of people won't..when so many fans keep talking about "new musical direction" about a couple of records, desunction is there must be something in them we can't grasp...

I'm sure it does.. but I still haven't got the one I ordered the 19th june..

It might be a different dircection for him personally, but the difference is that his older records were new music, really new sounds,lyrically, conceptually new. His persona and music crushed taboos.

He's not provocative in a progressive way anymore, and his musical development only affects his own history and no longer that of pop-music. No shame there - the guy's old enough to do as he pleases and i can imagine that he finds the whole young rebelious streak a bit off when you're 45. Even if he would bring out crap records now (and occasionally, he does...) He has proven his merrit to popularmusic long ago, exceeding most other 80's artists.

zobilamouche said:
He's not provocative in a progressive way anymore, and his musical development only affects his own history and no longer that of pop-music. No shame there - the guy's old enough to do as he pleases and i can imagine that he finds the whole young rebelious streak a bit off when you're 45. Even if he would bring out crap records now (and occasionally, he does...) He has proven his merrit to popularmusic long ago, exceeding most other 80's artists.


your post are kind, intelligent, accurate..are you a kind of alien? anyway this forum needs more like you..

lol - I've had my rants on this forum too
i'm belgian - so for the Bush administration, that would qualify as alien I think.

zobilamouche said:
i'm belgian - so for the Bush administration, that would qualify as alien I think


oh, european..that's make ever more sense..

hazel said:

Did you both ever here anything like it ?

EAST ! !

I like EAST the best! Funkiest and most interesting by far.

I´ll never get tired of saying it: NEWS is great, inspired and perfectly executed music.

If you don´t appreciate it then it is your bloody loss, quite frankly

Fhunkin said:

I heard stuff that goes far beyond this and therefore kicks more ass and is a real piece of enovative music. I'm thinking "bitches brew" from M.davis here. All recorded in one take; just putting musicians together jaming and coming up with a masterpiece that shocked the jazz-world and kicked jazz-funk in the balls.
NEWS is not a "dangerous, menacing" body of art to established music. It is, indeed, well executed quality music, but don't make it into more then it is.

gargantua said:
I´ll never get tired of saying it: NEWS is great, inspired and perfectly executed music.

If you don´t appreciate it then it is your bloody loss, quite frankly



maybe differnt people appreciate things in different ways..and that's all.

who is gargantua??

garganta said:

If i'm not mistaking it is a figure out of an old french book that eats a lot

zobilamouche said:

all right, okay...