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Days of Wild and the Gold Experience

Just listening to Crystal Ball and its clear that DoW was intended for The Gold Experience. All the TV appearances and interviews by the band and “Tora Tora” at the time of the Gold Exp concerts raved about the track “funkiest tune ever” and such comments. We (his adoring public) were going crazy for it, and still are (1+1+1=3 single version from last year) so WHY did it not end up on the final album cut?
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Reply #1 posted 07/31/03 9:24am

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I just don't know.. Kind of the same reason he leaves top tunes off major releases 'spose
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Reply #2 posted 07/31/03 9:26am

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I may be wrong, and I'm sure I will be corrected if I am, but I think the live version was recorded after the albums release and the studio version just didn't have the same vibe as the live one so it was not used. I think I read that somewhere. Or am I thinking of another song? Anybody?
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Reply #3 posted 07/31/03 9:28am

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LittlePill said:

I may be wrong, and I'm sure I will be corrected if I am, but I think the live version was recorded after the albums release and the studio version just didn't have the same vibe as the live one so it was not used. I think I read that somewhere. Or am I thinking of another song? Anybody?


hmmm Sounds familiar. I think you are right.
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Reply #4 posted 07/31/03 9:32am

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So why put the "welcome to the dawn, you have just accessed the wild experience" studio stuff on it then?

There was so much hype about the song, NPG loved it, we loved it and Prince seemed to love it. Seems a bit illogical to me. Even more so than normal I mean!
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Reply #5 posted 07/31/03 9:33am

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Probably because of all the rap that was on the album, to begin with. He did say, I think, that he would use the song later--I guess he just forgot. The boy needs his viagra.
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Reply #6 posted 07/31/03 10:00am

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The Studio version has the NPG operator that appeared on TGE at the beginning of the track, anyone know which track he favoured over DOW?
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Reply #7 posted 07/31/03 10:05am

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P Control I think?
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Reply #8 posted 07/31/03 10:06am

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Marrk said:

The Studio version has the NPG operator that appeared on TGE at the beginning of the track, anyone know which track he favoured over DOW?


I'm pretty sure that Days Of Wild was just removed from the tracklist, reducing the number of actual songs from 13 down to 12. The studio version does sound a little weak when compared to the live version on Crystal Ball.
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Reply #9 posted 07/31/03 10:28am

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The song seems to mean quite a lot to Prince since it's one
of the songs he's been playing live at almost every show or
at least with a striking regularity for a almost a decade.

My own take on it's removal from the final Gold pressing was
always a combination of the afore mentioned reasons plus the
probable fact that he didn't want Warners to have any rights
to the song [ie not giving up the mastertape of dow].
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Reply #10 posted 07/31/03 10:45am

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IstenSzek said:

The song seems to mean quite a lot to Prince since it's one
of the songs he's been playing live at almost every show or
at least with a striking regularity for a almost a decade.

My own take on it's removal from the final Gold pressing was
always a combination of the afore mentioned reasons plus the
probable fact that he didn't want Warners to have any rights
to the song [ie not giving up the mastertape of dow].




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Reply #11 posted 07/31/03 12:10pm

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According to Turn It Up 2.0...
"Sessions for The Gold Experience continued through Autumn/Winter 93-94.Dutch radio premiered songs from a tape they had purchased from Prince on March 6th 1994.'The Most Beautiful Girl In The World','Interactive','Days Of Wild','Now','Poem','Acknowledge Me','319' and 'Pheremone'.
Around the time of delivery of 'Come' to Warner's, Prince submitted 'The Gold Experience' to the label.He proposed they should release 'Come' by Prince, and a few weeks later, release 'The Gold Experience' by o(+>.The first version of 'The Gold Experience' included 11 tracks,'Interactive','Days Of Wild','TMBGITW','Now','Acknowledge Me','Ripopgodazippa','319','Shy','Billy Jack Bitch' and 'Gold'.
Prince made some changes to the track listing of 'The Gold Experience',but didn't spend much time working on the album.A 13 track version was compiled in September/October 1994.The track listing was, 'P Control','Endorphinmachine','Shh','We March','Days Of Wild','TMBGITW','Dolphin','Now','319',Shy','Billy Jack Bitch','I Hate U','Gold'.
This configuration lacked 'Interactive','Acknowledge Me',and 'Ripopgodazippa'
The only further change Prince made was to remove 'Days Of Wild'.A live version surfaced on 'Crystal Ball', in 1998, but the studio version has never seen the light of day.

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Reply #12 posted 07/31/03 12:23pm

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thebumpsquad said:

According to Turn It Up 2.0...
"Sessions for The Gold Experience continued through Autumn/Winter 93-94.Dutch radio premiered songs from a tape they had purchased from Prince on March 6th 1994.'The Most Beautiful Girl In The World','Interactive','Days Of Wild','Now','Poem','Acknowledge Me','319' and 'Pheremone'.



Yeah, I taped that show from Dutch radio. It was a pretty
lame show built around those damn cool songs.

It was basically just the dj from TrosFM and a mate, who
pretended to attend this private Prince party at Paisley
[I think they used soundbites from the Beautiful Exp tape].

It had these weird "operator" segues [by nona gaye?] that
went like:

"Only I know me, and no one gets inside without the key,
I don't need one of those punks tryin to rule me, they
gotta see me, they gotta see me now; what is the beautiful
experience?"

AAAnyway, the songs were the only thing worthy to listen
to in that show and they kicked some sick n twisted ass!

"Poem" was basically the electronic version of Come, but
a different one from the version that appeared on boots
such as "Deposition" etc. This one broke down somewhere
in the middle and then continued with the last portion of
the album version [the horn part]. Very smooth and cool.

"Days Of Wild" was the unreleased extended version which
has an extra instrumental segment at the end. I think it
clocks in at about 6 mins.

"Race" was a different mix from the one that ended up on
the Come album. It was, I might ad, much much better. It
had that 20's style jazzy kit-kat-club vibe to it and had
some serious swingpunches. Which is what makes the version
that was eventually released a bit of a downer on Come for
me since this early version had so much going for it.

"Interactive" was still the "Interactive cdrom" version and
not the one that was released on Crystal Ball.

"The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was, if memory serves
me, a 10 minute mix. I should dig up that tape some day, but
I don't even know if I've still got it. Plus I haven't got a
tapedeck anymore. sad

Anyway, who needs yet another [10 min] mix of TMBGITW ??

Still, that night was fucking exciting. Listening to the
radio, hearing these new unreleased Prince jams that I knew
might not even make it onto any album. It was wild. And it
was one of the last times I was totally freaked out and high
about new Prince stuff.

That whole Come/Gold/Exodus era is still one of the most
fascinating times in his career. I hope that one day we will
get all the dirt on the goings on of that period. Including
some more trax that we don't know about yet that were also
recorded at that time.

For all the talk of the 1986/1987 material [which I will be
the first to wet my pants for], the 1993/1995 material that
remains in the vault has just as much appeal to me.


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Reply #13 posted 07/31/03 3:38pm

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The only studio-version of DOW I know is the one on "Platinum". The sound-quality isn't that great. Where can I find another one and is it the same version?
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Reply #14 posted 07/31/03 4:01pm

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DOW must have got as far as the copies sent out to journalists though.
I remember it being mentioned in a review in Vox magazine (now defunct) and then being very disappointed (and confused) not to find it on the final in-stores version.
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Reply #15 posted 07/31/03 4:14pm

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Days Of Wild was removed from The Gold Experience
just prior to it's release. No official reason has
ever been given as to the reason for it being dropped.

Personally, I think it was because the studio version
always seemed to lack something when compared to almost
every live version I've ever heard. Also, The Gold
Experience was played to a lot of reviewers way before
it was released, and most of them singled out Days Of
Wild as being a bit weak (I think a lot of them found
the intro childish in it's excessive use of the F word).
It's possible that these two factors played a part in
Prince's decision to omit it from the final release.

Here's The Gold Experience tracklist, as it was
going to be. So you can see where Days Of Wild fitted
into the running order...

1. Pussy Control (5:59)
2. npg operator (0:12)
3. Endorphinmachine (4:07)
4. Shhh (7:18 )
5. We March (4:49)
6. npg operator (0:05)
7. Days Of Wild (3:46)
8. npg operator (0:18 )
9. The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (4:25)
10. Dolphin (4:59)
11. npg operator (0:20)
12. Now (4:30)
13. npg operator (0:14)
14. 319 (3:19)
15. npg operator (0:10)
16. Shy (5:04)
17. Billy Jack Bitch (5:32)
18. eye Hate U (5:54)
19. npg operator (0:45)
20. Gold (7:23)
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Reply #16 posted 07/31/03 4:37pm

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I agree the studio version is quite weak, it lacks oomph.

I'm not that mad about any version of the song to be honest, I never saw why people were so crazy over it - but it definately comes off better live.
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Reply #17 posted 07/31/03 6:48pm

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As I've said before..imagine having the long version of DOW & Rippgodda on TGE
...wouldv'e been TOO good.


BTW it was suppopsed to be a 19 track CD
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Reply #18 posted 08/01/03 1:09am

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I love the original studio version of "Days Of Wild" and I really think it should have appeared on the album.I remember playing that song for a few friends that aren't fans,and they LOVED it.I think it's one of Prince's funkiest,most convincing hip-hop jams.As much as I love the 'Gold Experience' CD,I think it's a shame that so many top-notch songs from this period didn't appear on it...

"Acknowledge Me"
"Days Of Wild"
"Interactive"
"Hide The Bone"
"Ripopgodazippa"



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Reply #19 posted 08/01/03 1:55am

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If the gold experience had had this as a tracklist, I think it would have been his best ever album:

Pussy Control
Endorphinmachine
Acknowledge Me
Pheromone
Ripopgodazippa
Days Of Wild
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World
Race
Now
319
Interactive
Billy Jack Bitch
Gold



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Reply #20 posted 08/01/03 6:28am

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CrystalVault said:

The only studio-version of DOW I know is the one on "Platinum". The sound-quality isn't that great. Where can I find another one and is it the same version?


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Reply #21 posted 08/01/03 6:46am

DavidEye

I remember,a year or so before 'TGE' was released,I had a bootleg cassette of the album.It had a very poor-sounding version of "P Control" that was taken from a Glam Slam nightclub airing of the song.You can hear all these girls singing (off-key...lol) along with the track.Then,there was a live version of the second half of "I Hate U".Y'all know this recording.It features some guy with an English(?) accent saying..."This sounds like "Joy In Repetition",right?".I used to play this bootleg to death!
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Reply #22 posted 08/01/03 6:53am

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Haystack said:

Marrk said:

The Studio version has the NPG operator that appeared on TGE at the beginning of the track, anyone know which track he favoured over DOW?


I'm pretty sure that Days Of Wild was just removed from the tracklist, reducing the number of actual songs from 13 down to 12. The studio version does sound a little weak when compared to the live version on Crystal Ball.


Yeah, it was pulled at the last minute. There was an interview with Prince in NME magazine in the first quarter of '95 and they reviewed TGE and Days Of Wild was included .
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Reply #23 posted 08/06/03 7:27pm

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IstenSzek said:

It had these weird "operator" segues [by nona gaye?] that
went like:

"Only I know me, and no one gets inside without the key..."
This sounds like something from The Beautiful Experience video.

"The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was, if memory serves
me, a 10 minute mix.
Was that the title of the 10 minute version? It was pretty cool and I played that version a lot, segued and sounding like a tour of The Beautiful Experience EP.

My guess on DOW being pulled is that Prince and his band thought it worked much better as a live number. Just like Purple Rain perhaps (side note, was Prince ever known to have recorded Purple Rain in the studio?). Something else I remember hearing was that it was taken off to make the album sound more balanced. DOW and Now together on one album gave it to much of a leaning towards rap.
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Reply #24 posted 08/06/03 10:14pm

peterv

to those of you who say the studio version is weak, i agree AND disagree. here's why...

the first version i heard was a 2nd generation tape (excellent sound) from a dutch radio broadcast... the next best sounding one i heard was on a boot called 'fantasia'. however, this version, while very clean, DID lack the 'umph' that many of you have mentioned. it is almost like it's been duuled up or dolbied out. the radio version i have has a much fuller sound and even a little juicier feel, if you will...

having said that, sound-wise i feel it would have fit great...
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Reply #25 posted 08/07/03 4:04am

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During 1998, my fav song was Days Of Wild.

That year I went to my first Prince concert. In Rotterdam, Holland.
Imagine my surprise when he started the show with a great version of Days Of Wild. As far as I know, he's only done that during that show...so great headbang

Concerning the studio-version of Days Of Wild.
If I'm not mistaken, the video of Days Of Wild, as shown in the 'The Beautiful Experience' VH1 special is for the studio version. So the video has the studio-version music, and the video was released to tv.
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Reply #26 posted 08/07/03 4:53am

Haystack

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Yeah, it was pulled at the last minute. There was an interview with Prince in NME magazine in the first quarter of '95 and they reviewed TGE and Days Of Wild was included .


I remember that track by track review. The title was actually mis-printed as 'Days Of Wind' which amused me no end. I was sure they must have mis-printed it on purpose.
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Reply #27 posted 08/07/03 5:38am

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Haystack said:

Cloudbuster said:



Yeah, it was pulled at the last minute. There was an interview with Prince in NME magazine in the first quarter of '95 and they reviewed TGE and Days Of Wild was included .


I remember that track by track review. The title was actually mis-printed as 'Days Of Wind' which amused me no end. I was sure they must have mis-printed it on purpose.


lol I never noticed that. I'll have to see if I've still got the mag.
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Reply #28 posted 08/07/03 10:11am

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ChocolateInvasion said:

Concerning the studio-version of Days Of Wild.
If I'm not mistaken, the video of Days Of Wild, as shown in the 'The Beautiful Experience' VH1 special is for the studio version. So the video has the studio-version music, and the video was released to tv.



The version of Days Of Wild in The Beautiful Experience
TV special was a live version recorded at Paisley Park
Here's the track listing for The Beautiful Experience...

Interactive (studio version)
Days Of Wild (live)
Come (remixed studio version)
Race (slightly extended studio version)
Acknowledge Me (edited studio version)
Pheromone (studio version)
The Jam (live)
Shhh (live)
Loose! (studio version)
Papa (studio version)
The Most Beautiful Girl In The World (video)
Now (live)
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I love the version of Come on the Beautiful Experience, I was bummed that it never got released.
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