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PrintableHarlepolis said: prrtybby said: Actually Prince didn't get "really" big until Purple Rain
You can't dismess 1999, Dirty Mind & Prince. Sales & record wise, these LPs were doing good commercialy & criticaly. Purple Rain happend 2 put him in the mainatream and it happend that WENDY & LISA were there(they were NOT the reason behind its success) . If Andre Cymone & Dez were there instead, it woulda been different story. and Wendy started before then with 1999 because Prince heard her through a hotel-room door and before he knew who it was he knew it was talent.
Wendy has no contribution in 1999 but her backing-vox. And how many of the previous band members have multiple albums and music credits in both t.v. and film. besides that none of them are as impressive to look at as they are!
Once again, I ain't got nothing about their solo stuff. However, They weren't that solid when they were with Prince, they had ideas? Sure, but who's the headmaster? Def not them. Nuff said! Riiight. That's why the Vault filled up between 1983 and 1986. And after they left the outtakes from 87 to present are weak compared to All my Dreams or Wonderful Day. The headmaster? More like Oz, but don't pay no attention to the girls behind the curtain okay?  | |
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I don't get how people don't see what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. They had the balls to tell Prince "no, put it away it sounds like something you've already done." Now, he's got a bunch of yes men kissing his ass, well, he has for about 14 years, that's why the music stopped growing. And yes he's doing jazzy stuff now, but it sounds like all other jazz, Prince music sounded like nothing else. And I would like to thank Wendy and Lisa for that Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council. | |
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Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] i completely agree. Except for the part about Wendy, sure, she wasn't the greatest guitarist, but she was decent, IMHO. If she didn't have talent she wouldn't have been in the band, prince is VERY selective about who he hires. (this isn't towards you, but to every one posing this question in general) As far as susannah goes, she was his girlfriend, not a musician, I never see many poeple praising her(as opposed to *coughVANITYcough*). She had a decent voice, and lended her vocals to some of his work, that's all, no one gives her that much credit as being implied in the original post. ~KiKi | |
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EverlastingNow said: Oh brother! Undisciplined?? They were actually having fun and teasing Prince. Wendy used to actually be the leader when Prince wasn't in town and she would let them know they sounded bad. And speaking of blissfully ignorant, don't you recognize sarcasm???
 I'm British, so I'm well versed in sarcasm 
I've always thought W&L's demonstrable lack of knowledge of American traditional music did not exactly work in their favour. What I pointed out remains a valid observation. I guess one person's symphony is another person's cacophony. . "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." | |
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giotto said: EverlastingNow said: Oh brother! Undisciplined?? They were actually having fun and teasing Prince. Wendy used to actually be the leader when Prince wasn't in town and she would let them know they sounded bad. And speaking of blissfully ignorant, don't you recognize sarcasm???
I'm British, so I'm well versed in sarcasm
I've always thought W&L's demonstrable lack of knowledge of American traditional music did not exactly work in their favour. What I pointed out remains a valid observation. I guess one person's symphony is another person's cacophony. . Riiight.  | |
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EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA.  I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) | |
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HEy, here is the simple equation. Look at what Prince has done BEFORE and AFTER them. And compare it to their careers BEFORE and AFTER Prince. There is no comparison. Even the Wendy and Lisa groupies who think they fart perfume would have to admit that the work they have done since Prince is not even close to the few albums they worked with Prince on. Prince has produced some masterpeices after Wendy and Lisa. He has surpassed what they did together. Dez Dickerson made major contributions before Wendy or Lisa was there and no one eulogizes him.
It is alot of this Wendy and Lisa thing that has nothing to do with music. Black fans dont miss them. YOu will find that mostly white female fans are clinging onto those days. Lets face it - Rhonda Smith and SHeila E have brought more to the table as women in Prince's bands and no one is talking about them. This is one of things from Prince fans that I can do without. | |
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LaMont said: HEy, here is the simple equation. Look at what Prince has done BEFORE and AFTER them. And compare it to their careers BEFORE and AFTER Prince. There is no comparison. Even the Wendy and Lisa groupies who think they fart perfume would have to admit that the work they have done since Prince is not even close to the few albums they worked with Prince on. Prince has produced some masterpeices after Wendy and Lisa. He has surpassed what they did together. Dez Dickerson made major contributions before Wendy or Lisa was there and no one eulogizes him.
Most sensible observation yet!!!It is alot of this Wendy and Lisa thing that has nothing to do with music. Black fans dont miss them. YOu will find that mostly white female fans are clinging onto those days. Lets face it - Rhonda Smith and SHeila E have brought more to the table as women in Prince's bands and no one is talking about them. This is one of things from Prince fans that I can do without. | |
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Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) That's fine but I don't see how you can say that having heard Parade. | |
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Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) Do you mean that you like Wendy and Lisa, but that they are better now without him then when they were part of the band? "a poor fool indeed is a man who adopts a manner of thinking for others" | |
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EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) That's fine but I don't see how you can say that having heard Parade. Did say they didnt contribute. I do say that it is not as great as W&L muff buddies want to make it. | |
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LaMont said: Did say they didnt contribute. I do say that it is not as great as W&L muff buddies want to make it.
nod: Bottomline: They did contribute to his work, but had he never meant them he would've gotten along just fine (same goes for W&L). All three have proven to be great and talented and could get along just fine had their paths never crossed. Prince doesn't need W&L, and W&L don't need him. Prince, to me was in his prime during '80-'88, therefore he made great albums with, and without W&L. W&L's solo albums have been great also (you'll notice that they didn't go running to Prince to help them out), without Prince they made good, consistant albums, and without W&L Prince made good, consistant albums. [This message was edited Mon Jul 28 1:12:12 PDT 2003 by lovebizzare] ~KiKi | |
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I don't see what some people is complaining about?
W&L were great musicians! Very creative and inspired and helped Prince to create some of his greatest work. Baby u're a  | |
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prrtybby said: Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) Do you mean that you like Wendy and Lisa, but that they are better now without him then when they were part of the band? Xactly | |
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Harlepolis said: prrtybby said: Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) Do you mean that you like Wendy and Lisa, but that they are better now without him then when they were part of the band? Xactly cool. I do agree with you there. "a poor fool indeed is a man who adopts a manner of thinking for others" | |
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LaMont said: HEy, here is the simple equation. Look at what Prince has done BEFORE and AFTER them. And compare it to their careers BEFORE and AFTER Prince. There is no comparison. Even the Wendy and Lisa groupies who think they fart perfume would have to admit that the work they have done since Prince is not even close to the few albums they worked with Prince on. Prince has produced some masterpeices after Wendy and Lisa. He has surpassed what they did together. Dez Dickerson made major contributions before Wendy or Lisa was there and no one eulogizes him.
It is alot of this Wendy and Lisa thing that has nothing to do with music. Black fans dont miss them. YOu will find that mostly white female fans are clinging onto those days. Lets face it - Rhonda Smith and SHeila E have brought more to the table as women in Prince's bands and no one is talking about them. This is one of things from Prince fans that I can do without. I AM A "BLACK FAN" AND I DO MISS THEM THANK YOU!!!  I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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Oh my god my head's going to explode.
Just because you haven't heard it don't mean it's not good. W&L's work on Doyle Bramhall II's records alone have earned my unending respect for them. His first two CDs were produced by them, and they performed a lot of the instruments on those records. And, just, damn. Damn. The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3 | |
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Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) They (W&L) wrote Purple Rain. Period. And no, I don't think that because of the movie, though it was hyped as "semi-autobiographical" Some of my very favorite songs on that album were themes they came up with ie "Take me with U" Susannah was a relative/gf. I don't consider her a talent equal to W&L but I don't think anyone ever purported her to be so.. well probably P when he was setting her up with a band etc..[This message was edited Mon Jul 28 20:08:36 PDT 2003 by neurose] "the foolish dog, bark at the flying bird" From "Jah Live" -Bob Marley | |
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LaMont said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: EverlastingNow said: Harlepolis said: The only reason why folks give them so much credit is becoz they were around when Prince was at the hieght of his career THATS ALL! Prince was already big when they joined him, matta o' fact he GAVE THEM the fame(NOT VICE VERSA) and he would've hit the highest scores with or without them. If the NPG were backing him up at that time and playing the same stuff, ya'll would be RAVING npg to the full(instead of W-L-S)
Don't lie to yo selves by saying inputs and such. The only one person who I can give the credit to is Lisa Coleman(who was originaly down with Prince since the jump and who had a very unique tone in her Piano) Wendy & Susannah are the LEAST talented "musicians" in Prince's band. Matta o' fact, Prince would do just fine if he kept Dez at his band and no wonder why Miko always get the solos while endy was already there. Its no secret, that woman ain't that much of a guitarist otherwise you'd see Prince passing solos along her way. They happend 2 be there when Prince was ALREADY big thats why most of ya'll give these ladies too much credit. [This message was edited Sat Jul 26 13:04:33 PDT 2003 by Harlepolis] Anyone who knows anything about music knows what Wendy and Lisa added to Prince's music. So why does Prince always mention them? His dream band included them when Chris Rock asked him that question. I don't remember him saying Miko or Dez do you?? They were there at the peak of Prince's creativity...not a coincidence. C'mon do your homework next time before not giving them the credit they deserve. Even Prince has said they used to think with the same mind, who else does he give that credit to? Who else has he EVER let finish a song for him no questions asked??? Hmmm...just WENDY AND LISA. I already done my homework and I'm pretty much aware of the vault but then once again I don't see what did they add to P's music, they were great bandmates and they were real with the brotha? Sho nuff, but still I don't find their work with the man as solid as their solo work. If the man finds them "their dream band" then thats simply his opinion(doesn't mean I'm gonna follow it) I'm only stating my personal opinion(which I'm still sticking with it) That's fine but I don't see how you can say that having heard Parade. Did say they didnt contribute. I do say that it is not as great as W&L muff buddies want to make it. On behalf of the Wendy and Lisa muff buddies  | |
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LaMont said: HEy, here is the simple equation. Look at what Prince has done BEFORE and AFTER them. And compare it to their careers BEFORE and AFTER Prince. There is no comparison. Even the Wendy and Lisa groupies who think they fart perfume would have to admit that the work they have done since Prince is not even close to the few albums they worked with Prince on. Prince has produced some masterpeices after Wendy and Lisa. He has surpassed what they did together. Dez Dickerson made major contributions before Wendy or Lisa was there and no one eulogizes him.
It is alot of this Wendy and Lisa thing that has nothing to do with music. Black fans dont miss them. YOu will find that mostly white female fans are clinging onto those days. Lets face it - Rhonda Smith and SHeila E have brought more to the table as women in Prince's bands and no one is talking about them. This is one of things from Prince fans that I can do without. I am not white. And I am not clinging to "those days". Personally I hope they never get back together with Prince in a band. Other than if (and that is a big IF) he decides to join Shelia's charity concert. I think it would be a step backwards for them. They have surpassed him as well. "a poor fool indeed is a man who adopts a manner of thinking for others" | |
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I dont know if any one wrote this yet, this thread is to long for my liking but Wendy and Lisa wrote the basic music for Purple Rain. Prince was playing at 1st ave like every other night in 83 but was about to get bumped out by a group called the Time. Prince refused input from the rest of the band about song writing and was losing his spotlight. His father tried to kill himself and his mother was real upset about doing the dishes or something. Prince then used Wendy and Lisa's song to gain back his seat as the top dog at 1st Avenue. Something like that, I have to watch the documentary again, or was it a movie. I dont know Prince stuff. | |
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oh for crying out loud "a poor fool indeed is a man who adopts a manner of thinking for others" | |
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