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Reply #30 posted 07/17/03 2:23pm

SubZane

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Universaluv said:

Morris liked to use the name "Grace" or "Stella", Prince used "Martha", doubt it had any special biblical meaning. In the context of the actual song,

I got a jones, Martha
Oh yeah, it be like this (I can't have a hug)
I can't have a hug (unless)
unless I have a kiss

it seems fairly straightforward, he's got an addiction, he can't have a hug unless he also gets a kiss. But who knows, that whole Christ, Petrine, Johannine thing you've got going might be right on point. But I doubt it.


hmm ok, sounds logical, has Prince used Martha in other songs as well?
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Reply #31 posted 07/17/03 2:28pm

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SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

Morris liked to use the name "Grace" or "Stella", Prince used "Martha", doubt it had any special biblical meaning. In the context of the actual song,

I got a jones, Martha
Oh yeah, it be like this (I can't have a hug)
I can't have a hug (unless)
unless I have a kiss

it seems fairly straightforward, he's got an addiction, he can't have a hug unless he also gets a kiss. But who knows, that whole Christ, Petrine, Johannine thing you've got going might be right on point. But I doubt it.


hmm ok, sounds logical, has Prince used Martha in other songs as well?


Not that I know of, although if he has somebody will certainly say so. He does use Martha again later in the song

"Like a wildcat, Martha, in a celibate rage
I want your love, in my dirty little cage
Can u understand, Martha?"

"I'll show my...
If you show your...
I can't help it, Martha "


Whoever he's talking about, it doesn't sound like any part of the Bible I've read, (maybe Song of Solomon, but not that hottt!).

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[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:29:16 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]
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Reply #32 posted 07/17/03 2:31pm

SubZane

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Universaluv said:

SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

Morris liked to use the name "Grace" or "Stella", Prince used "Martha", doubt it had any special biblical meaning. In the context of the actual song,

I got a jones, Martha
Oh yeah, it be like this (I can't have a hug)
I can't have a hug (unless)
unless I have a kiss

it seems fairly straightforward, he's got an addiction, he can't have a hug unless he also gets a kiss. But who knows, that whole Christ, Petrine, Johannine thing you've got going might be right on point. But I doubt it.


hmm ok, sounds logical, has Prince used Martha in other songs as well?


Not that I know of, although if he has somebody will certainly say so. He does use Martha again later in the song

"Like a wildcat, Martha, in a celibate rage
I want your love, in my dirty little cage
Can u understand, Martha?"

"I'll show my...
If you show your...
I can't help it, Martha "


Whoever he's talking about, it doesn't sound like any part of the Bible I've read, (maybe Song of Solomon, but not that hottt!).

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[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:29:16 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]


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I recently heard from a friend that Kim Bassinger's real name was Martha or something like that, could it be a reference 2 her maybe? if that's the case
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Reply #33 posted 07/17/03 2:42pm

Universaluv

SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

Morris liked to use the name "Grace" or "Stella", Prince used "Martha", doubt it had any special biblical meaning. In the context of the actual song,

I got a jones, Martha
Oh yeah, it be like this (I can't have a hug)
I can't have a hug (unless)
unless I have a kiss

it seems fairly straightforward, he's got an addiction, he can't have a hug unless he also gets a kiss. But who knows, that whole Christ, Petrine, Johannine thing you've got going might be right on point. But I doubt it.


hmm ok, sounds logical, has Prince used Martha in other songs as well?


Not that I know of, although if he has somebody will certainly say so. He does use Martha again later in the song

"Like a wildcat, Martha, in a celibate rage
I want your love, in my dirty little cage
Can u understand, Martha?"

"I'll show my...
If you show your...
I can't help it, Martha "


Whoever he's talking about, it doesn't sound like any part of the Bible I've read, (maybe Song of Solomon, but not that hottt!).

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[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:29:16 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]


true
I recently heard from a friend that Kim Bassinger's real name was Martha or something like that, could it be a reference 2 her maybe? if that's the case


Yeah this subject came up a couple of weeks ago and that theory was thrown out there. From what I can tell, Kim Basinger's real name is Kimberly Ann Basinger, but who knows?


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[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:47:40 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]
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Reply #34 posted 07/17/03 2:53pm

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Universaluv said:

SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

SubZane said:

Universaluv said:

Morris liked to use the name "Grace" or "Stella", Prince used "Martha", doubt it had any special biblical meaning. In the context of the actual song,

I got a jones, Martha
Oh yeah, it be like this (I can't have a hug)
I can't have a hug (unless)
unless I have a kiss

it seems fairly straightforward, he's got an addiction, he can't have a hug unless he also gets a kiss. But who knows, that whole Christ, Petrine, Johannine thing you've got going might be right on point. But I doubt it.


hmm ok, sounds logical, has Prince used Martha in other songs as well?


Not that I know of, although if he has somebody will certainly say so. He does use Martha again later in the song

"Like a wildcat, Martha, in a celibate rage
I want your love, in my dirty little cage
Can u understand, Martha?"

"I'll show my...
If you show your...
I can't help it, Martha "


Whoever he's talking about, it doesn't sound like any part of the Bible I've read, (maybe Song of Solomon, but not that hottt!).

.
[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:29:16 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]


true
I recently heard from a friend that Kim Bassinger's real name was Martha or something like that, could it be a reference 2 her maybe? if that's the case


Yeah this subject came up a couple of weeks ago and that theory was thrown out there. From what I can tell, Kim Basinger's real name is Kimberly Ann Basinger, but who knows?


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[This message was edited Thu Jul 17 14:47:40 PDT 2003 by Universaluv]

maybe Prince called her Martha? smile
or maybe Prince just throw in the name Martha in the lyrics 2 "CONfuze" us (as he likes 2 put it). Or maybe it was some other girl he was banging?
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Reply #35 posted 07/17/03 3:15pm

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FunkMistress said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

FunkMistress said:

SubZane said:

Martha was Petrine, Mary was Johannine.


"I got a Jones, Petrine!"

petrine...sounds sorta like dog food...i gotta jones, alpo...aw yeah, it be like this...


Or latrine...i can't have a dump...unless i have a piss...


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Reply #36 posted 07/17/03 5:02pm

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I got a Basketball Jones.
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Reply #37 posted 07/17/03 5:16pm

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squirrelgrease said:

I got a Basketball Jones.

bassetball jooones, i gotta bassetball jooones...gotta bassetball jones, so baby, ooo-oo-oo-ooo... lol
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Reply #38 posted 07/17/03 5:31pm

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many nights i have stayed akwake into the early hours of the morning...pondering the same question confuse


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Reply #39 posted 07/17/03 5:39pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

squirrelgrease said:

I got a Basketball Jones.

bassetball jooones, i gotta bassetball jooones...gotta bassetball jones, so baby, ooo-oo-oo-ooo... lol



Ol' schooler...fro
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Reply #40 posted 07/17/03 7:54pm

purplelu

Oh, the insanity of it all, June!
(now, do I mean June Cleaver or the month...hmm)
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Reply #41 posted 07/17/03 7:57pm

Mizzunderstood

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LittlePill said:

Maybe it's because Martha sounds better then any other name. Let's try "I gotta jones Betty". Hmmm, doesn't really sound too good. Or how about "I gotta jones Denise". That doesn't sound very good either. "I gotta jones Lorraine". barf



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I got a jones, Henrietta!

I gotta jones, Shaniqua, that's method man's version smile
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Reply #42 posted 07/17/03 8:30pm

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It's about Kim
Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #43 posted 07/17/03 8:36pm

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It's about Kim

right.
Don't try to read more into prince's music('cause if you do you end up being horribly confused), not everything he does is based on something religious. I swear someone will come up with a thread trying to find the deeper meaning in "darling nikki".
Anyway,
"jones" is a slang term for addiction, not just heroin addiction.
In other words, He's telling martha (kim) that he's got an addiction (to her I'm guessing).
~KiKi
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Reply #44 posted 07/17/03 9:20pm

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And the religious meaning of 'Darling Nikki' is...? Oh the mass confusion!
My kitty wants to play...
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Reply #45 posted 07/18/03 1:24am

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"Love jones,I got a love jones,i got a love jones for you...ooohhh...Love jones,I got a love jones,I got a love jones for you..."


"What is a love jones? Shucks,doll,it's when you love someone,very very much and you just can't seem to get yourself together"


smile from the 1973 song "Love Jones" by Brighter Side Of Darkness
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Reply #46 posted 07/18/03 3:23pm

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I always thought it was just a name that he liked the sound of, because he uses Marsha in Let's Pretend We're Married

"Look here Marsha, I'm not saying this 2 be nasty,I sincerely wanna...
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Reply #47 posted 07/18/03 7:40pm

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matchufalls said:

I always thought it was just a name that he liked the sound of, because he uses Marsha in Let's Pretend We're Married

"Look here Marsha, I'm not saying this 2 be nasty,I sincerely wanna...


He does??? Must be the rare Greg Brady mix.
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Reply #48 posted 07/18/03 8:47pm

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Martha Wash, the singer of Two Tons of Fun fame always comes to mind when I listen to that song. Prince did quote James once, saying "I like 'em fat, I like 'em proud .." An d Martha was big and beautiful ...
But it's probably just a name that sounded right for the song.
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Reply #49 posted 07/18/03 9:15pm

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matchufalls said:

I always thought it was just a name that he liked the sound of, because he uses Marsha in Let's Pretend We're Married

"Look here Marsha, I'm not saying this 2 be nasty,I sincerely wanna...



I really like that quote.
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Reply #50 posted 07/19/03 9:20am

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WonderU said:

matchufalls said:

I always thought it was just a name that he liked the sound of, because he uses Marsha in Let's Pretend We're Married

"Look here Marsha, I'm not saying this 2 be nasty,I sincerely wanna...


He does??? Must be the rare Greg Brady mix.


No I'm not being "Greg Brady", but you don't always need to drop an F-bomb just to write it.

I got my point across.
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