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Thread started 08/23/03 6:30pm

lildragon

Prince and Michael were suppose to colaborate in 1987. Michael's Album Sales compared to Prince's

Michael Jackson wanted Prince to colaborate with Prince for the Bad song and video.. Prince declined saying it would be a hit even with out me.

Michael's Album Sales compared to Prince's (worldwide including U.S. sales)
1979 Off the Wall- over 7 million sold
1979- Prince over 1.3 million sold

1983 Thriller- over 50 million sold
1983 1999- over 5 million sold

1987 Bad- over 20 million sold
1987 Sign o the times- over 4 million sold

1991 Dangerous- over 10 million sold
1991 Diamonds and Pearls- over 6.4 million sold

1995 History- over 10 million sold
1995 The Gold Experience- 892,002 sold

1998 Blood on the Dance Floor- over 3 million sold
1998 New Power Soul and Crystal Ball- 388,922 sold

2001 Invincible- over 2 million sold
2001 Rainbow Children- over 143,000 sold
[This message was edited Sat Aug 23 18:31:52 PDT 2003 by lildragon]
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Reply #1 posted 08/23/03 6:38pm

DavidEye

And your point would be what?
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Reply #2 posted 08/23/03 6:43pm

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DavidEye said:

And your point would be what?

couldnt've said it better myself. quality over quantity, dahling...
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Reply #3 posted 08/23/03 6:44pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DavidEye said:

And your point would be what?

couldnt've said it better myself. quality over quantity, dahling...


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Reply #4 posted 08/23/03 6:53pm

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Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 18m
Thriller - 59m
Bad - 30m
Dangerous - 30m
History - 20m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 6m
Invincible - 9m
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Reply #5 posted 08/23/03 6:56pm

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Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 1m
Thriller - 1m
Bad - 1m
Dangerous - 1m
History - 1m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 1m
Invincible - 1m



rolleyes :BORED: Let it rest Cloudbuster. DAMN! :T2H:



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Reply #6 posted 08/23/03 6:58pm

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Chico319 said:

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 1m
Thriller - 1m
Bad - 1m
Dangerous - 1m
History - 1m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 1m
Invincible - 1m



rolleyes :BORED: Let it rest Cloudbuster. DAMN! :T2H:



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Reply #7 posted 08/23/03 6:58pm

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Chico319 said:

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 1m
Thriller - 1m
Bad - 1m
Dangerous - 1m
History - 1m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 1m
Invincible - 1m



rolleyes :BORED: Let it rest Cloudbuster. DAMN! :T2H:



:WINK:

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Reply #8 posted 08/23/03 7:29pm

Cloudbuster

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DavidEye said:

And your point would be what?

couldnt've said it better myself. quality over quantity, dahling...


Quality being MJ. Quantity being Prince. wink

I've always thought Prince would've done better to have released fewer albums. That way we could've avoided all the filler.
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Reply #9 posted 08/23/03 7:41pm

Jem

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Cloudbuster said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DavidEye said:

And your point would be what?

couldnt've said it better myself. quality over quantity, dahling...


Quality being MJ. Quantity being Prince. wink

I've always thought Prince would've done better to have released fewer albums. That way we could've avoided all the filler.


Why, more albums by prince tells a better story. who cares for just hits. MJ tracks are just the icing, and prince's tracks are the icing and the filling.
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Reply #10 posted 08/23/03 7:48pm

Cloudbuster

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Jem said:

Cloudbuster said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DavidEye said:

And your point would be what?

couldnt've said it better myself. quality over quantity, dahling...


Quality being MJ. Quantity being Prince. wink

I've always thought Prince would've done better to have released fewer albums. That way we could've avoided all the filler.


Why, more albums by prince tells a better story. who cares for just hits. MJ tracks are just the icing, and prince's tracks are the icing and the filling.


Maybe it tells a better story to your ears. Not to mine. Too erratic and incosistant.
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Reply #11 posted 08/24/03 12:02am

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what story is MJ telling? Quincy told most of it.. & then now he needed $65 Million to know what people want to hear. which he found out they didn't want to ..anyways

Isn't it funny that it took MJ 4 years to write his first album he really did on his own. (Bad) * Quincy said all this out of his own mouth on the Charlie Rose show less then a year ago, that MJ didn't do as much as he tried to report on his first solo 2 albums.

In that sametime Prince did: Purple Rain (& movie),ATWIAD,Parade(& movie),SOT..plus albums & songs for a BUNCH of other people.

I personally enjoy the growth from an artist..try new things.. grow & enjoy their journey.. NOT remaking a "Michael Jackson Inc." type Thriller part 6.. and so on.

Could you only imagine if Prince kept trying to repeat his first fame?

wow when you see that you clearly know someone isn't that talented.

By the way MJ makes about $2 Bucks per sale on each album (but he has to pay off the producer's he needs to seem hype.. his last album thats $25 Million)

Prince since 1996 gets around $9- 13 per album sold (double disks around $20-30 per).. NO producer cost..no studio time..


BUT who cares about that.. I enjoy a true honest journey of a real musican..who has his Mic turned on 100% of the time..in concerts

not 2%.. just to say "hello, I love you or talk up the next lip sync track"
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Reply #12 posted 08/24/03 12:46am

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locoarts said:



I personally enjoy the growth from an artist..try new things.. grow & enjoy their journey.. NOT remaking a "Michael Jackson Inc." type Thriller part 6.. and so on.

Could you only imagine if Prince kept trying to repeat his first fame?



By the way MJ makes about $2 Bucks per sale on each album (but he has to pay off the producer's he needs to seem hype.. his last album thats $25 Million)




None of Mike's albums sound the same to me, there is alot of musical evolution there.
Truth is Prince probably likes making music more than Michael, Prince is extremely prolific and for that reason has to change his style.a 'Purple Rain' style album every year would be tiresome.Recently, IMO he's hit a bit of a boring dead end.

BTW MJ's royalty rate is the highest in the industry @ last time i read it was 47% which works out at slightly more than your estimated $2 per album.
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Reply #13 posted 08/24/03 3:33am

NME

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By the way MJ makes about $2 Bucks per sale on each album (but he has to pay off the producer's he needs to seem hype.. his last album thats $25 Million)

Prince since 1996 gets around $9- 13 per album sold (double disks around $20-30 per).. NO producer cost..no studio time..


hmmm

$9 per disc that sells fuck all

or

$2 per disc that sells in excess of 9 million

what was MJ thinking..., DOH!
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Reply #14 posted 08/24/03 8:15am

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Condense P's back catalogue to 5 albums, say 10-12 tracks per album - surely they'd be the greatest 5 albums there's ever been.

I'd really rather have P's prolific output than MJs 4 (admittedly) great albums, a couple of fillers and then Invincible (which really stank the place up) to show for over 30 years of work.
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Reply #15 posted 08/24/03 8:30am

Marrk

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1p1p1i3 said:

Condense P's back catalogue to 5 albums, say 10-12 tracks per album - surely they'd be the greatest 5 albums there's ever been.

I'd really rather have P's prolific output than MJs 4 (admittedly) great albums, a couple of fillers and then Invincible (which really stank the place up) to show for over 30 years of work.


Invincible is good IMHO,I wish Prince could still drop a ballad as good as 'butterflies' or 'heaven can wait'. there's alot more to MJ than his adult solo albums.Don't forget the dozens of albums he made with his brothers contribute to his 35 year career.
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Reply #16 posted 08/24/03 8:36am

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Yeah, But Prince aint about that he is music, it seeps from him, he is like a fish out of water without it!!! thats were the quantity comes from.
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Reply #17 posted 08/24/03 8:59am

LittleJ

Personally I find it difficult to think of MJ as a musician.

He is a hit seeking entertainer, who only really knows how to do one thing well. Prince is an artist, pure and simple, art, music is his life, thats what he is.

Jacko has been a great entertainer, but without widespread public support (which neither of them have) he is really just a sad ghost of his former self. Prince will always have music and therefor direction. You know that even if he had just 10 fans he would find away of getting his music to them. Jacko would continue to try and impress us with his tired old dance routines, for gods sake, doesn't he know haw to groove any differently?
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Reply #18 posted 08/24/03 10:39am

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I agree - P is a musician, MJ is an entertainer and performer. Very well put LittleJ.
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Reply #19 posted 08/24/03 11:01am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 18m
Thriller - 59m
Bad - 30m
Dangerous - 30m
History - 20m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 6m
Invincible - 9m



Wow,I knew that 'OTW' and 'Thriller' had astronomical sales,but I didn't know that his other albums did that well.It's funny,many of his post-Thriller albums are considered sales disappointments,but I don't find those sales disappointing one bit! Like Madonna,MJ may not be as popular in the US as he once was,but he's still capable of selling alot of CDs in other places.
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Reply #20 posted 08/24/03 11:12am

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DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 18m
Thriller - 59m
Bad - 30m
Dangerous - 30m
History - 20m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 6m
Invincible - 9m



Wow,I knew that 'OTW' and 'Thriller' had astronomical sales,but I didn't know that his other albums did that well.It's funny,many of his post-Thriller albums are considered sales disappointments,but I don't find those sales disappointing one bit! Like Madonna,MJ may not be as popular in the US as he once was,but he's still capable of selling alot of CDs in other places.

Mmm...i'd say those sales numbers are extremely optimistic, certainly when you count actual sales.
18 - 54 - 27 - 28 - 14 - 5 - 6 should be more like it.
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Reply #21 posted 08/24/03 11:18am

DavidEye

SpcMs said:

DavidEye said:

Cloudbuster said:

Actually, Michael's worldwide album sales are more like this:

Off The Wall - 18m
Thriller - 59m
Bad - 30m
Dangerous - 30m
History - 20m
Blood On The Dancefloor - 6m
Invincible - 9m



Wow,I knew that 'OTW' and 'Thriller' had astronomical sales,but I didn't know that his other albums did that well.It's funny,many of his post-Thriller albums are considered sales disappointments,but I don't find those sales disappointing one bit! Like Madonna,MJ may not be as popular in the US as he once was,but he's still capable of selling alot of CDs in other places.

Mmm...i'd say those sales numbers are extremely optimistic, certainly when you count actual sales.
18 - 54 - 27 - 28 - 14 - 5 - 6 should be more like it.




Yeah,that sounds about right.
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Reply #22 posted 08/24/03 6:28pm

lmas

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Marrk said:

locoarts said:






None of Mike's albums sound the same to me, there is alot of musical evolution there.




WOW here we go:

Beat IT= BAD=(look at the video for God sake)
Dangerous= Invincible= (all 4 ofthe songs R the same)
Billy Jean= Dirty Diana= Give into Me
Lady in my Life= Liberian Girl

This (MJ) guys LP's emulate each other almost consistently. The public are idiots for not picking up on this or maybe just to submissive/stupid to want change. Example would be the great caper of New Kids on the Block= Backstreet Boys= N'Sync. WTF weren't they the same bunch of guys each time with change of facial hair and clothing styles?

I've seen Prince do it really only a couple of times with songs like Purple Rain and Gold. and Do me Baby and Inter. Lover.
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Reply #23 posted 08/24/03 6:47pm

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MJ is hungry for staying in the game and remaining on his "throne", thinking he can compete against acts that are actually taking over. disbelief
Prince is more about the MUSIC...the true MUSICIANSHIP...the mellow of the mind. cool music guitar
MJ cant even perform anymore...he looks like he's gonna fall apart anyday...right there...on the stage...disbelief
Prince is the DEFINITION of an EXCELLENT performer...
Listen, im not saying MJ wasnt the man at one time, but thats just it, AT ONE TIME...His music reaks of "I CAN STILL BE NUMBER ONE! I CAN STILL TAKE EVERYONE BY STORM!" While Prince is more like "Can we (NPG) jam or what?..We just jamming ya'll...Lemme play it for ya one time!...On The One!"
Its such a huge difference between them...and even though Prince has drastically changed his style...why is it that I find myself gravitating more to his music still over Mike? Mike just aint true to the art anymore...He's got bills. sigh
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Reply #24 posted 08/24/03 6:57pm

lmas

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

MJ is hungry for staying in the game and remaining on his "throne", thinking he can compete against acts that are actually taking over. disbelief
Prince is more about the MUSIC...the true MUSICIANSHIP...the mellow of the mind. cool music guitar
MJ cant even perform anymore...he looks like he's gonna fall apart anyday...right there...on the stage...disbelief
Prince is the DEFINITION of an EXCELLENT performer...
Listen, im not saying MJ wasnt the man at one time, but thats just it, AT ONE TIME...His music reaks of "I CAN STILL BE NUMBER ONE! I CAN STILL TAKE EVERYONE BY STORM!" While Prince is more like "Can we (NPG) jam or what?..We just jamming ya'll...Lemme play it for ya one time!...On The One!"
Its such a huge difference between them...and even though Prince has drastically changed his style...why is it that I find myself gravitating more to his music still over Mike? Mike just aint true to the art anymore...He's got bills. sigh



Nuff said
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Reply #25 posted 08/24/03 7:23pm

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lmas said:

CherrieMoonKisses said:

MJ is hungry for staying in the game and remaining on his "throne", thinking he can compete against acts that are actually taking over. disbelief
Prince is more about the MUSIC...the true MUSICIANSHIP...the mellow of the mind. cool music guitar
MJ cant even perform anymore...he looks like he's gonna fall apart anyday...right there...on the stage...disbelief
Prince is the DEFINITION of an EXCELLENT performer...
Listen, im not saying MJ wasnt the man at one time, but thats just it, AT ONE TIME...His music reaks of "I CAN STILL BE NUMBER ONE! I CAN STILL TAKE EVERYONE BY STORM!" While Prince is more like "Can we (NPG) jam or what?..We just jamming ya'll...Lemme play it for ya one time!...On The One!"
Its such a huge difference between them...and even though Prince has drastically changed his style...why is it that I find myself gravitating more to his music still over Mike? Mike just aint true to the art anymore...He's got bills. sigh



Nuff said

Y thank U Imas hug
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Reply #26 posted 08/24/03 7:29pm

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CherrieMoonKisses said:

lmas said:

CherrieMoonKisses said:

MJ is hungry for staying in the game and remaining on his "throne", thinking he can compete against acts that are actually taking over. disbelief
Prince is more about the MUSIC...the true MUSICIANSHIP...the mellow of the mind. cool music guitar
MJ cant even perform anymore...he looks like he's gonna fall apart anyday...right there...on the stage...disbelief
Prince is the DEFINITION of an EXCELLENT performer...
Listen, im not saying MJ wasnt the man at one time, but thats just it, AT ONE TIME...His music reaks of "I CAN STILL BE NUMBER ONE! I CAN STILL TAKE EVERYONE BY STORM!" While Prince is more like "Can we (NPG) jam or what?..We just jamming ya'll...Lemme play it for ya one time!...On The One!"
Its such a huge difference between them...and even though Prince has drastically changed his style...why is it that I find myself gravitating more to his music still over Mike? Mike just aint true to the art anymore...He's got bills. sigh



Nuff said

Y thank U Imas hug


Here are my comparsions

Yeah Micheal Jackson is broke
Prince still getting paid

Micheal Jackson like little boyz
Prince actually had sex with real women

Micheal Jackson has plastic surgery
Prince still looks just as good as did back in the dayz

Micheal Jackson really wants 2 be Prince
Prince just wants 2 be himself
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Reply #27 posted 08/24/03 8:46pm

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Invincible is good IMHO,I wish Prince could still drop a ballad as good as 'butterflies' or 'heaven can wait'. there's alot more to MJ than his adult solo albums.Don't forget the dozens of albums he made with his brothers contribute to his 35 year career.>>>

Actually "Butterflies" was written by Floetry. Michael heard the song, liked it, and said that he wanted it.


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Reply #28 posted 08/25/03 4:26am

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Can MJ play ANY instruments?
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Reply #29 posted 08/25/03 4:28am

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U can kill me, but I'm still an MJ fan


And what the hell has this to do with Prince himself?

Ok, so not many people like Princes alternative music...FUCK THEM, I'd say and gimme the electric chair for listening to that tiny MF rolleyes
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