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Thread started 07/12/03 2:31pm

muleFunk

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Roadhouse Garden

What were the songs to be on the original release of Roadhouse Garden & when was this supposed to be released ?

Prince mentioned this in an interview several years back that there was a completed Roadhouse album.Prince claimed that it was the "best" Revolution album.

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Reply #1 posted 07/12/03 3:14pm

EverlastingNow

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He mentioned that Witness 4 the Prosecution was going to be on there.
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Reply #2 posted 07/12/03 3:54pm

jimipaisley

-roadhouse garden
-witness 4 the prosecution
-splash
-in a large room with no light
-All my dreams
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/03 10:15pm

NWF

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I believe "Teacher, Teacher" was another track on there too.
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/03 12:07am

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The idea of releasing an album of previously unreleased
Prince and the Revolution material had been around for a
long time. Prince first started mentioning the idea as
early as 1993 (possibly earlier). This idea had certainly
solidified into an actual album by 1997 when Prince
finished assembling Crystal Ball, as he avoided including
many of the tracks from the Revolution period.

In 1999 Prince started mentioning that there was an archive
album of Prince and the Revolution songs called Roadhouse
Garden in the works, and over the following couple of years
details about the album started to emerge.

The exact tracklist for Roadhouse Garden has never been
released, but tracks officially confirmed to appear on it
were:

  • Roadhouse Garden
  • Splash
  • Witness 4 The Prosecution
  • In A Large Room With No Light
  • Empty Room
  • All My Dreams

other titles also rumored to be included (but not confirmed)
were: Teacher Teacher, Moonbeam Levels & Wonderful Ass

The album was supposed to be predominently made up of tracks
that had heavy Wendy & Lisa input, and Prince said that he
wanted to finish the album with them. For whatever reason,
the reunion with Wendy & Lisa didn't happen, and the album
was shelved. For a while it looked like the album might be
released anyway, with or without additional input from Wendy
& Lisa, but by 2001 it became pretty clear that Roadhouse
Garden was very unlikely to ever see the light of day.
.
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Reply #5 posted 07/13/03 1:33am

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Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.
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Reply #6 posted 07/13/03 2:35am

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dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.


As long as he didn't fuck around with the tracks.
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Reply #7 posted 07/13/03 2:38am

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Romance1600 said:

dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.


As long as he didn't fuck around with the tracks.

well there goes THAT idea. lol
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Reply #8 posted 07/13/03 3:29am

Marrk

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You know it'll be a massive shame if none of this material ever comes out officially.Alot of us have heard these songs in poor bootleg form already, I don't see why Prince just doesn't treat the fans for once, it'd be a good idea to utilise the club this way, (he could set up a voting system with a choice of projects for the next mail-out)

I can't believe his religious beliefs are the only thing preventing us hearing 'Wonderful Ass' in crystal clear sound, or maybe they are. sigh
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Reply #9 posted 07/13/03 6:13am

muleFunk

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Thanks Boris !

Wonderful Ass is a true Revolution era song.
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Reply #10 posted 07/13/03 8:59am

unremarkable

It'd have to be re-recorded.

"You've got a wonderful bum", or something.
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Reply #11 posted 07/13/03 9:20am

purpleone

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is 'empty room' an 80's outtake or not? i know there's a 1995 version (which has an 80's sound though imo) and i have this 2 minute piano version (not the 'one nite alone' version). the latter, is it an 80's track? if so, when was it recorded?
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/03 9:28am

Marrk

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purpleone said:

is 'empty room' an 80's outtake or not? i know there's a 1995 version (which has an 80's sound though imo) and i have this 2 minute piano version (not the 'one nite alone' version). the latter, is it an 80's track? if so, when was it recorded?


I heard somewhere the original was made in 82.I could be wrong though.
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Reply #13 posted 07/13/03 10:04am

Romance1600

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Empty Room original is from 1985 I believe.
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/03 10:10am

Marrk

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Romance1600 said:

Empty Room original is from 1985 I believe.


yeah, i think you're right.


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Reply #15 posted 07/13/03 10:40am

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BorisFishpaw said:

The idea of releasing an album of previously unreleased
Prince and the Revolution material had been around for a
long time. Prince first started mentioning the idea as
early as 1993 (possibly earlier). This idea had certainly
solidified into an actual album by 1997 when Prince
finished assembling Crystal Ball, as he avoided including
many of the tracks from the Revolution period.

In 1999 Prince started mentioning that there was an archive
album of Prince and the Revolution songs called Roadhouse
Garden in the works, and over the following couple of years
details about the album started to emerge.

The exact tracklist for Roadhouse Garden has never been
released, but tracks officially confirmed to appear on it
were:

  • Roadhouse Garden
  • Splash
  • Witness 4 The Prosecution
  • In A Large Room With No Light
  • Empty Room
  • All My Dreams

other titles also rumored to be included (but not confirmed)
were: Teacher Teacher, Moonbeam Levels & Wonderful Ass

The album was supposed to be predominently made up of tracks
that had heavy Wendy & Lisa input, and Prince said that he
wanted to finish the album with them. For whatever reason,
the reunion with Wendy & Lisa didn't happen, and the album
was shelved. For a while it looked like the album might be
released anyway, with or without additional input from Wendy
& Lisa, but by 2001 it became pretty clear that Roadhouse
Garden was very unlikely to ever see the light of day.
.


Wendy and Lisa wanted to do new music not re-produce music they made a long time ago. They agreed to do Roadhouse but just not as the FIRST project for a reunited Revolution. And let's face it, Prince and Wendy and Lisa WERE the Revolution. If it said Produced, complosted and performed by Prince and the Revolution it really was just those three.
Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/03 10:47am

LadyCabDriver

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WonderU said:

Wendy and Lisa wanted to do new music not re-produce music they made a long time ago. They agreed to do Roadhouse but just not as the FIRST project for a reunited Revolution. And let's face it, Prince and Wendy and Lisa WERE the Revolution. If it said Produced, complosted and performed by Prince and the Revolution it really was just those three.

"complosted"? is that a word? lol

just kidding. wink
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/03 10:53am

muleFunk

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I was told that a Wendy & Lisa/Prince reunion was 99.999 % dead and would never happen.

What happened ?Prince and stupid remarks ???

Scoop please.
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/03 10:54am

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LadyCabDriver said:

WonderU said:

Wendy and Lisa wanted to do new music not re-produce music they made a long time ago. They agreed to do Roadhouse but just not as the FIRST project for a reunited Revolution. And let's face it, Prince and Wendy and Lisa WERE the Revolution. If it said Produced, complosted and performed by Prince and the Revolution it really was just those three.

"complosted"? is that a word? lol

just kidding. wink


"Complosted"- means to recompose lost tracks. Yeah...that will work lol
Prince may be the purple Yoda, but Wendy & Lisa and Eric Leeds also sit on the Jedi Council.
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Reply #19 posted 07/13/03 11:11am

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dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.



how would releasing Roudhouse celebrate Purple Rain?
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Reply #20 posted 07/13/03 12:14pm

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dumbass said:

dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.



how would releasing Roudhouse celebrate Purple Rain?


As long as the album comes out. It's an idea at least!
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Reply #21 posted 07/13/03 12:35pm

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WonderU said:

LadyCabDriver said:

WonderU said:

Wendy and Lisa wanted to do new music not re-produce music they made a long time ago. They agreed to do Roadhouse but just not as the FIRST project for a reunited Revolution. And let's face it, Prince and Wendy and Lisa WERE the Revolution. If it said Produced, complosted and performed by Prince and the Revolution it really was just those three.

"complosted"? is that a word? lol

just kidding. wink


"Complosted"- means to recompose lost tracks. Yeah...that will work lol

lol lol
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Reply #22 posted 07/14/03 12:00am

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dumbass said:

dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.



how would releasing Roudhouse celebrate Purple Rain?



How about a double disc re-mastered Special Edition Purple Rain/Roadhouse Garden?

would that do?
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Reply #23 posted 07/14/03 10:58am

thedog

On Mtv in 1999 back when Prince was promoting Rave, Kurt Loder asked Prince if Roadhouse was still on. He said yes...Oh well.
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Reply #24 posted 07/14/03 10:07pm

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Reply #25 posted 07/15/03 1:48am

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Marrk said:

dumbass said:

dorothyparker87 said:

Wouldn't it be great to release "Roadhouse Garden" in 2004 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of "Purple Rain"? I love that idea.



how would releasing Roudhouse celebrate Purple Rain?



How about a double disc re-mastered Special Edition Purple Rain/Roadhouse Garden?

would that do?


any celebration to Purple Rain should include Purple Rain. would it make sense if Steven Spielberg re-released Jaws to celebrate the anniversary of E.T.?
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Reply #26 posted 07/15/03 2:21am

jstar69

well folks...as exciting as it would be for a reunion, I doubt it will ever happen. And besides, W&L have a career. The girls have got it together - they have stability...

and when you assess Prince and co-workers over the past decade or so, stability doesnt exist...Shame!
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Reply #27 posted 07/16/03 6:59am

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I have just this week relented and listened to "Electric Intercourse", "Moonbeam Levels", "The Line", "The Grand Progression", "All My Dreams", "Purple Music", "The Dance Electric", "Wonderful Ass" and some others for the first time in shitty bootleg quality.

I swore I never would but I have given up all hope on any of this stuff ever getting released properly.

And after hearing it, it really pains me that the closest the NPGMC ever came to giving the fans what they wanted was the release of "Splash" in the first month of the first year. And that's it. Apart from "In a Large Room with No Light" all this stuff is classic...

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