Do you think Prince is still an optimist? It's surprising that even now (when he wants to retire from the public eye), he still has to deal with such bullshit amongst many of his own so-called fans e.g. Alex Hahn. I'm surprised that he manages to put up with it, and still want to share his most personal gift - the music. And as for anyone who thinks it would be 'beneficial' for Prince to go on talk shows such as Howard Stern, you simply do not understand what Prince has or wants to offer us.

I'm not sure I would be too happy in his shoes, knowing how some of his following think. The sad thing is, I already know what some of you fools are going to say. Given that you still come here, take a moment to think about what you are actually saying. Perhaps, you shouldn't be here afterall. And you say you want a Celebration? To celebrate what exactly? You spend almost all your time here behaving as miserable, low life, fucks. We all know who you are. The question is, do you know what you've become?

Anji said:

Optimist I think. When I read his interviews he always seems positive about his career, even during the bad times!

Give me a fucking break, Anji, and quit acting so goddamn pretentious. Jesus.

You seem to have the same warped, cultish mindset that Prince's organization has been cultivating lately.

Everything is either All Good or All Bad, with no in-between. What a sad, narrow-minded way to live. Do YOU realize what you've become?

It's interesting to notice that more often than not it's you so-called "enlightened" people dishing out the majority of the attacks.

Do you really think that you have the right to tell people how they should feel about Prince? That's pretty damn presumptuous of you, isn't it? Wouldn't you rather people make up their own minds? I guess you wouldn't.

*the presumptive edit*
[This message was edited Mon Jul 7 13:25:27 PDT 2003 by theblueangel]

Very interesting Anji, but i think u are barking up the wrong tree. A lot of the haters, whiners, and folks stuck in 1986 don't think about what they say or who they hurt. Some folks are just hateful.I think it has something to do with being dissatisfied with their own life. So they come on here and act as if Prince somehow has ruined their lives or something. It really is crazy. People like bart and evil white male have some sort of sickness otherwise they would find positive places to be instead of here just spitting out their nastiness. Very few of the people here actually respect Prince.

tricky99 said:

I think it is very interesting that you come hear to spit your own form of hate and then run away when folks respond to you. Dish it out, can't take it?

Anji said:

Prince, to me, is an eternal optimist. He is definately not a realist, like myself. God Bless him. I saw your little smiley face, Anji, and I know part of your post is real, and part is good-natured ribbing, but this is my take on it: I liked Prince more when I din't know his stance on organized religion, race relations, politics, etc. Music is escape for me. I don't need to be reminded how crappy the world is outside, I already know. Over the last couple of years, I have realized Prince has changed a lot, and I haven't. I can and do accept that. I also accept that there will soon come a time where I won't be a member of the club or rush out and get the newest Prince album. As far as Prince doing what he does, he is obviously not doing it for us, but for himself and the love of the music. If you got one person digging what you are trying to do then that's all you need. His ego has never been that fragile before, so I hope a few people not digging every song he does, doesn't bring him to throw up his hands.

if the brotha weren't optimistic, he wouldn't still be in the game.

youngca said:

Prince definitely felt he could walk on water at the best of times. That was one of his major attractions, his God-like quality. I would like to think he's a little less 'in his own ego' right now, although sometimes you have to wonder.

With regards the idiots in this community, I have to ask why it is that they are still here if all Prince apparently brings them is disappointment. Like Tricky said, it's more than likely that some fans reflect their own insecurity on things they are unhappy with in their own lives, and vent that through Prince.

Perhaps, this is about family, childhood or some misplaced source of love. I suspect fans like Bart, for example, used Prince as a father-figure without realising it. The problems occur when they realise Prince has never given a flying fuck about what they think, and in my opinion, rightfully so.



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[This message was edited Mon Jul 7 15:43:35 PDT 2003 by Anji]

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Very well put

I think the man had his share of the "TOP-TEN" mess, now he's doing thangs by his own rules the way he likes it. Some folks may have problem with some of the thangs he does(they're already making big deals of it) but at the end of the day the man is satisfied with his effort.

tricky99 said:

au contraire, mon frere! maybe if you'd stop payin attention to the so-called "haters, whiners" and so forth you'd find out that your entire statement is on the false side itself.

hate don't conquer hate.
whinin don't conquer whinin.

theblueangel said:

stymie said:

Gotta love that response, Stymie! Classy, insightful and deserving respect.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

The brotha's gotta be optimistic if he's screaming for all the sexy people, only to be greeted by the likes of Bart, XLBubba, EvilWhiteMale and Huggy front row, night after fucking night.

Anji said:

hey, one has to keep smilin in order to keep themselves from kickin ass.



front row beatdown edit
[This message was edited Mon Jul 7 15:47:41 PDT 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

theblueangel said:

Co-Sign
Anji is clearly a mindless fam .

stymie...take a bow. your words were beautiful.
(no lie) as usual anji has gotten some folk riled up!
(man why U do shit like that? ha ha)

seriously...nobody should let anyone in this community tell them HOW to think about PRince. what you feel is cool as
long as its true to what you believe.

my take on prince is clear to me. he's evolved. he isn't the
same dude he was back in the 80's. if he's growing he can't be.

like him i was born in the 50's and no way am i close to
what i was. its growing up.

i think he's a realist because he decided to change himself
(not just his religion...but other subtle things)

check it out:
his musical journey has taken him a long way from playing
little places in minny in teen bands for little money...
whether we agree with his methods (some i don't) we gotta
give the boy his due-he did it his WAY.

yes there is some of the old p in him...but he's DIFFerent.

and hopefully all of us are.
cuz if we wanna keep up with the brotha we gonna have to
change,too! (or get left behind!)

Prince is, and always will be an optimist.

I do see what you're saying, anji, but there are some fan/fams/whatever (like me) that don't agree with every little thing he does and aren't a big fan of Prince: the person. that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be on here. I mean, when you come right down to it, we're all here because of the music.
As afr as Prince not letting any of this phase him; what do you expect? He's always been quite ballsy and didn't (doesn't) really give a damn about what people think of him. NOTHING, and I do mean nothing, gets in the way of his music.

Anji said:

Whoa, Anji! Are you serious? If you are, I'm really

youngca said:

Wow, youngca. Thanks. I was expecting to be flamed or bashed to pieces. Props and pounds to you. I truly dig the way you think.

P is an optimist, no doubt. I'll focus on that.

Exactly where on record has Prince ever proclaimed that things were hopeless? Even in jest (y2k? Not today!) and certainly in heartfelt and genuine moments (The Ladder, Free, Lovesexy) the outlook is always good.

Even on instrumentals the feeling is genuinely celebratory and fun. All reasons to stick with the man.
[This message was edited Mon Jul 7 19:47:29 PDT 2003 by Doozer]

stymie said:

you're welcome stymie. i always give sincere props.
the truth is the truth. and honesty is always rewarded.
by me anyway!

Blah, blah, blah, Anji.

stymie said:

Yeah, I was being serious. You actually responded to each of the issues in my post, plus you sounded genuine, funny and respectful (in spite of your indifference towards Prince nowadays). That's stylish, we like that.



Fans like EvilWhiteMale, Huggy and Bart on the other hand, don't truly gain respect from others here because they are not respect-worthy in how they conduct themselves in the first place. You are at the opposite end of the spectrum Stymie, and with that post you demonstrated it yet again.

theblueangel said:

I notice how excited you get at the mere mention of a Paisley party this friday night; have a good time!

In case you didn't already figure this one out, you might not want to mention who you are to the staff there. You acted like a fucking disrespectful doofus when they opened up the NPGMC this year, and I'm not surprised they haven't forgetten.

lovemachine said:

youngca said:

I like that thought, Charles, but you have to admit that there are many people left within Prince's fan community who are simply too stuck up their own arses to realise what they smell of, shit. The issues arise when you're left having to put up with those that don't dig the music anymore, and spend every last opportunity belittling the man because of it. I don't think it can get any more idiotic than that.

Prince doesn't give a fuck, so if they don't like him as a person, musician, or whatever, why are they still here bitching about it? It just ruins the atmosphere for everyone, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they are the selfish, ungrateful bitches making everyone's life a misery at the concerts.

Doozer said:

I completely hear what you're saying, Doozer. It's actually quite something when you realise how hopeful Prince has remained throughout the years, as evidenced by the music.

I think 'hope' must be one of the key subliminal ingredients that fans have been tuned into, and what we enjoy so much about what Prince has to offer (in spite of the conflicting messages of recent times). Deep down, that kid is one happy motherfucker!

Anji said:

Exactly, Anji! It is what i have been trying to get across too. I don't get this negative metality some people here put out constantly. If they are in so much pain and discomfort why oh why do they want to ruin the party for everyone else. i understand people think differently and some don't like where the purple bus is going, why not just get off. Why torture the other passengers with your problems. That's why i say there's a sickness here. And all these people so caught up Prince's life and who he f**ked or F**ked over acting like somehow it impacts them is bizarre. I don't know Prince and have no desire to know him personally. Not beacuse he is a bad guy but just because i have my own life to live and just enjoy is musical genius. I have no need to judge Prince. I'm just a witness no more no less.

lovebizzare said:

But Ms. Kiki, I'm not talking about your kind. You don't create an unnecessarily, unpleasant atmosphere with every other word you speak. If anything, you love your certain Prince eras, such as The Revolution, but you're still curious and open about what's going to happen next. The nice thing is that you're respectful and cool to others, like many others here.

The only reason I'm highlighting this issue is because in a community like this, it's very easy for idiots to feel like they are achieving something worthwhile, by maliciously spreading their discontent (rooted in their own issues with their own lives, not Prince's). Some fans seriously have their own problems, but reflect that on Prince's business and vent them in an online fan community where they are given free license to do so. Of course, at times critiscm is warranted but there is a means to being constructive, if you really care.

Why do you think theblueangel's a/c was temporarily suspended from the NPGMC? It's not about freedom of speech, it's about respect. Like I said before, some people really are too fucking dumb, or poorly brought up, to get it. Think about it, people actually label themselves here as Fiverpercenter, or EvilWhiteMale. Does that sound healthy to you?

Like another friend said, feed the masses a sex-obsessed, base rockstar (who just so happens to have the funk licks) and you're left with so called fans crying about The Rainbow Children or N.E.W.S. because it doesn't sound like what they know. or think is good. The unfortunate thing is that we're left to deal with the cry babies.