Handclapsfingasnapz said:

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cool

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I fell in love with the whole Prince thing years ago... in my late teens during the "Purple Rain" heydays. I stuck around because Prince is the "Best Show On Earth."

There has been a barrage of negative energy that Prince has had to deal with, and it is largely based on the enemies that he created. This brash black kid from literally nowhere had the balls to take on a multi-national corporation and WIN!

I for one have stuck around because Prince still represents the "Best Show On Earth." His muscianship, vision, his art is heads above so many of his contemporaries as to not even bother with arguments.

I am not old enough to remember the allure of lil' Stevie Wonder firsthand; Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5 were also a tad before my time. But as a young beige boy I was simply amazed at the icon called Prince.

I am still a bit sex crazed (anyone hangin' out on the web is surely somewhat crazy), and I have been accused of being vapid... but I'll tell you what -- if someone can appreciate the music that Prince is putting out, and get past all of the b.s. that has been flung at him, man that person is a bit deeper and a bit sexier than 99% of the people out there (in my opinion).

liberation said:

Alex Hahn ???
Now who's been drinking kool-aid ?
I stick to 1-2 million "worldwide", besides Prince in 1985 had 10-15 million fans.

youngsoulrebel said:

Oh By the way Prince ain't gonna marry u either
[This message was edited Wed Jul 2 22:58:25 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

loveroflife71 said:

That made more "cents" than you know...thanks for that!

Anji said:

Maybe I'm just naive, but I never thought that Prince's persona was a marketing ploy. It never occured to me that his agents handed him black bikini briefs, legwarmers and high heeled boots, and encouraged him to write sexually suggestive songs.

As a teen listening to Prince in the mid to late 70's and early 80's his music captivated me and his style intrigued me. If anyone should've been a "sex-obsessed moron" it should be me. I mean, I was at an impressionable age then, but I wasn't mindless. I didn't let his music influence me in such a way that I became some promiscuous teen. Okay, I did buy a trenchcoat and stiletto boots but "sex-obsessed?!"
Nahhh...His music moved me, yes; but not in THAT way.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

UptownDeb said:

To be perfectly honest, Uptown, I don't buy into the whole thing about P's persona being a marketing ploy. When he got "free", he still was writing sexually suggestive lyrics and performing sexually suggestive songs and doing sexually suggestive dances on stage. I just believe that Prince was horny. He has a song on TRC about female masturbation for pete's sake!

stymie said:

Prince was, is and will always b horny

lovebizzare said:

Then there are those fans who don't like a certain Prince period and who put others down for liking it. They like to mess with other fans' good times when they're in the middle of talking about it, by not having anything positive to say, so they inject something negative. I really hate those kinds of fans.

Anji said:

If he thinks we're bad, he should check out the NPGMC discussion rooms. Brain dead drones.

Anji said:

4 the record I fucking resent that! I was a vapid sex-obsessed morons before I ever heard any Prince music. Infact Prince is actually not as explicit in his music as it is percived.

Songs about oral sex and insest may of been shocking then. But I grew up in the 90s. When I was about 12 I listened to an album by The Outhere brothers (which I still own as it had a masive impact on my life). In one album they out dirtied and out cussed Princes entire career. 3 years after I started listening to Prince and it was because of the great music, not the sex.

LadyCabDriver said:

Hell, do I need 2 add more? LOL You can't imagine the hammering I got when I eknowledged that I like GB(the LP) and that Rave was the 1st LP I eva bought.

My Question is, what's point of Labeling fans... Why can't we just let it be, I swear some Prince fans are really beginning to sound like dictators

I thought Prince music was supposed to be free, not label me as what kind of fan I am... dammit I mines well be a snoop dog fan


[This message was edited Thu Jul 3 12:50:35 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

DigitalLisa said:

For once I TOTALY feel everything you said (altho I didn't get the last comment tho lol)

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

What about Bart?

Harlepolis said:

what I'm saying is, I thought Prince fans in somewhat is supposed to be one step ahead of everybody else,we supposed to be the mature group of music fans right? but from what I'm seeing I think I'm beginning to respect Britney Spears fans more... I don't think they go around labeling each other

huggy said:

I'd pay to see Prince slap this bitch.

A friend of mine pointed this out to me, and I agree wholeheartedly. A lot of disenchanted fans think he's too weird now. When hasn't he been completely weird? A lot complain about the religious overtones, but they've been around for a long time. A lot of people think that Prince has lost his edge. I think that if anything, Prince's edge is sharper than ever, as it has succeeded in angering fans and non-fans alike!

stymie said:

I've actually met some really cool Prince folk in real life. As for the idiots, I think it's a real shame that they almost always spoil the fun and excitment of seeing Prince live.

kmc said:

I'd like to agree.

Moonbeam said:

Is that about edge, Moonie?

lovebizzare said:

That's me

Anji said:

anji,what your friend said does have some validity to it.
Of course,there are a lot of fans who don't fit the type
he's talking about.

what dansa said about getting into p's music later made me
smile. for a couple of reasons (not that she needs to get
compliments from me...but i've always dug her posts and
words and had always assumed she was an old schooler like
me!) i grinned at her words for another reason...some of
the best prince fans i've ever met tended to be people who
were either too young when p was in his prime or weren't
born when purple rain came out!

a few of there types of fams have gotten org notes from me
cuz i dig what they bring to this commumity.

i've never ever joined something like this previosuly becuz
a lot of the other fan online things were filled with the
type of "narrow-minded ' fans your friend mentioned!

for the most part i dig most of what is expressed here.
most of Us p-fans are articulate and serious music fans.

there are a small number of folk who fit your friends
profile but nobody's perfect!

Anji said:

bartie-dahling's a totally different story...

MAjor Props to YOUNGSOULREBEL,d-LISA,anji...HANDClaps U
speak the truth (oh yeah so do-m-train!)

I don't think prince fans are any worse than star trek fans
(ha ha) there's GOOD,weird,silly,...fans everywhere!

my view is it doesn't matter when you became a prince fan
or HOW committed a fan you are.
if you're in this community you a FAn.

i've been a fan since p's beginning and have stucj with the brotha-through all of his UPs and downs. like i always say-
i never cared much for him as a person (i don't believe in
treating people like he has over his career) however,i
have never held that against HIM.

what made me a prince fan first and foremost was his immense
talent and his uniqueness.
being an old school guy i knew from day one who his influences were and dug how he was carrying on the tradition
blazed by the people before him...JAMES,santana (he's
a major influence on p's guitar style) SLy,LARRY G,various
60'-70's rock bands,little richard ..etc etc...

he added his own THANG to the mix and i said YEp this dude's
BAD. yes he was sex obsessed but that didn't bother me much.
and i suppose he was cute to guys and girls alike...which
was cool...but to me his sex appeal wasn't the issue.

i found some of the things he said in his songs funny yet
honest. (some of the lyrics...come on lines he said in his
tunes...i'd say..."man...i can't imagine saying something
like that to a girl and getting away with it!)

but really its always been about THE music.
that's why i'm a p FAN 4 EVER. HE AIN'T perfect...not everything he puts out is great...but his batting average
is pretty good for somebody who's DONE 50 years worth of
music in 26 plus years.

i don't play him everyday like i used to. but when i
do play an album or cd by him i immediately start movin'
groovin'...singing and saying...(in a morris day voice)
"yesss...this is why i chose the skinny mf with the
high voice,as one of my all-time faves.

the infuriating fans don't bother me. i'm interested in
everybody's viewpoint..espeically the cool and sexy people here! (U know who you are,right?)

charles "youngca"

youngca said:

Hey Charles, I got into Prince when I was 11 through none other than Tim Burton! Much like Dansa, I wasn't around when Prince's funk was part of everything he touched. Supernova once classed the Batman era as the start of the 'fat-cat' years; in retrospect I'd have to agree, despite the fact that Batdance is where I came into the fold. Nevertheless, I still love seeing Prince be true to himself and for me, that's what it's all about. I've got a strange feeling that I'm going to really enjoy N.E.W.S. when it gets released.

As for the point of this thread, well, there's been far too much bad blood amongst the very fans who would ordinarily be cool with one another. Certain things broke down due to a number of factors (and the community here is weakened because of it) but as many of you have pointed out, we all still know some very cool people. It simply irritates me to see the rotten eggs stay in favour of the good ones. Wherever you all are, Prince.org misses your spirit - Azurestar, Supernova, rdhull, Brendan, CalhounSq, NuPwrSoul, Rio, mistermaxxx, Jestyr, Essence, Lleena, Ellisdee and 2the9s, to name a few.



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[This message was edited Thu Jul 3 16:03:51 PDT 2003 by Anji]

DigitalLisa said:

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well well

this is the first time we actually agree on something

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youngsoulrebel said:

whatever

Princes image was well cultivated by his record company. He had to go along with it. Besides the image is nothing like the real person. Maybe he thought his true fans will see past an image and see it is all about the music right?
He was very naive. Also WB did not allow him to deter very much from that image. Mostly hype. A mystery...Who is Prince? He just wanted everyone to know his name to impress his father. Fame equated to sucess. Funny thing about fame it is a double edged sword...And once you become famous you can never go back. Be careful of what you wish for. You just might get it. Fans spend so much time focusing on rumors that they miss the big picture. Prince signed with WB in 1977. By 1983 everyone knew his name. Usually it takes 10 years to be an overnight success. A million dollar contract at 19. Minus 2 years from your age to make you sound better. Sounded good. No celeb really tells their real age. Once you start it's difficult to start saying no.Give them something to talk about. The music won't suffer.Maybe he thought he was a boring person. His fans are so dead set on believing the manufactured fantasy called Prince.Performance Art. It's all an act.