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Reply #30 posted 06/29/03 4:25am

Harlequin

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I do agree that he wouldnt have released one and was most probable forced to realese it...BUT, without that album i wouldnt b the Prince fan i am today. so i say dancing jig for hits/b-sides


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Reply #31 posted 06/29/03 5:13am

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Harlequin said:

I do agree that he wouldnt have released one and was most probable forced to realese it...BUT, without that album i wouldnt b the Prince fan i am today. so i say dancing jig for hits/b-sides

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Reply #32 posted 06/29/03 9:08am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Funny how people think Prince had nothing to do with the Hits Package.

It was not part of "getting out of the warner contract".

It was part of the "signing a new deal".

Think about it. If he had nothing to do with it, then why...

1. Did he do a new photo shoot for it?

2. Ask Alan Leeds to do the text?

3. Give SIX new tracks to the set?

4. Get his way in leaving the Batman Singles off it (He insisted is was a "Project", even though Batdance was a world wide smash?)

5. Why Did Tracks like Head make it on there, but not songs like Girls & Boys, which was a huge single in many countries?

Come on Prince got his way with this package too. The Greatest hits package from 2001 is far more what Warner would have picked.



Billy from Purple Rain...

"This is a bidness motherfucka you aint too far gone to see that!"

Prince relented to WB to the release of The Hits.Prince wanted to release a EP of Come with Come,Papa,Dark,Space making up the songs on the EP.Warners countered with a BETTER plan of a greatest hits album with Prince sprinkling a group of all new songs in the midst of a 3cd set.Warners also told Prince in the late spring of 94(May?) a new album could be released.Prince didnt like the plan and released TMBGITW through an independent label.



Also ,I heard Head at a club Friday night.When was the last time you heard Girls & Boys anywhere besides your cd player?
[This message was edited Sun Jun 29 9:16:52 PDT 2003 by muleFunk]
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Reply #33 posted 06/29/03 4:34pm

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muleFunk said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Funny how people think Prince had nothing to do with the Hits Package.

It was not part of "getting out of the warner contract".

It was part of the "signing a new deal".

Think about it. If he had nothing to do with it, then why...

1. Did he do a new photo shoot for it?

2. Ask Alan Leeds to do the text?

3. Give SIX new tracks to the set?

4. Get his way in leaving the Batman Singles off it (He insisted is was a "Project", even though Batdance was a world wide smash?)

5. Why Did Tracks like Head make it on there, but not songs like Girls & Boys, which was a huge single in many countries?

Come on Prince got his way with this package too. The Greatest hits package from 2001 is far more what Warner would have picked.



Billy from Purple Rain...

"This is a bidness motherfucka you aint too far gone to see that!"

Prince relented to WB to the release of The Hits.Prince wanted to release a EP of Come with Come,Papa,Dark,Space making up the songs on the EP.Warners countered with a BETTER plan of a greatest hits album with Prince sprinkling a group of all new songs in the midst of a 3cd set.Warners also told Prince in the late spring of 94(May?) a new album could be released.Prince didnt like the plan and released TMBGITW through an independent label.



Also ,I heard Head at a club Friday night.When was the last time you heard Girls & Boys anywhere besides your cd player?
[This message was edited Sun Jun 29 9:16:52 PDT 2003 by muleFunk]


I hear Girls and Boys and Kiss in more UK clubs than any other Prince hit, especially as it was a number 5 single. I've never heard Head at a club!
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Reply #34 posted 06/29/03 5:30pm

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It's just a sampler. Prince had put out so much incredible material at the time that you can only scratch the surface with a 2/3 discer. It's great as an introduction, but after u buy the albums whats ur excuse to listen to it?
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Reply #35 posted 06/29/03 6:14pm

Nikster

WatchThemFall said:

It's great as an introduction, but after u buy the albums whats ur excuse to listen to it?


I kept my copy in the changer in my car stereo nod


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Reply #36 posted 06/29/03 7:43pm

ally85

WatchThemFall said:

It's great as an introduction, but after u buy the albums whats ur excuse to listen to it?

either force it upon non fans until they are fans, or just look at the pretty pictures in the booklet
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Reply #37 posted 06/29/03 8:00pm

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ally85 said:

WatchThemFall said:

It's great as an introduction, but after u buy the albums whats ur excuse to listen to it?

either force it upon non fans until they are fans, or just look at the pretty pictures in the booklet

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Reply #38 posted 06/29/03 8:05pm

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no, this and the very best of prince wuz an oopsie. lol i haven't listened to my copy of the hits/the b-sides in ages...probably won't be listenin to it anymore, i suppose.
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Reply #39 posted 06/30/03 7:28am

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bananacologne said:

wasitgood4u said:

Good responses.
Tom: I wasn't arguing whether or not the Hits was a good package (it is - except that the B-sides were meant 4 the fans who there4 had 2 buy a double-disk of songs they already had whofarted )

Eh? I didnt have 2 buy both single discs AND the triple - I just bought the triple on the same day of release... I can't speak 4 AmericA, but in England, they were all released 2gether - u took your pick.
U would have 2 be just Prince nutz 2 buy all formats - why te hell would u wnna do that??? confuse rolleyes


Duhhh! I meant that P fans would already have everything on the first two disks. So they would have to fork out for a 3-disk set, even though two of the disks were useless for them! I, for one, still haven't bought it. (that, and D&P r the only official relases I don't have!)
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Reply #40 posted 06/30/03 8:23am

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wasitgood4u said:

bananacologne said:

wasitgood4u said:

Good responses.
Tom: I wasn't arguing whether or not the Hits was a good package (it is - except that the B-sides were meant 4 the fans who there4 had 2 buy a double-disk of songs they already had whofarted )

Eh? I didnt have 2 buy both single discs AND the triple - I just bought the triple on the same day of release... I can't speak 4 AmericA, but in England, they were all released 2gether - u took your pick.
U would have 2 be just Prince nutz 2 buy all formats - why te hell would u wnna do that??? confuse rolleyes


Duhhh! I meant that P fans would already have everything on the first two disks. So they would have to fork out for a 3-disk set, even though two of the disks were useless for them! I, for one, still haven't bought it. (that, and D&P r the only official relases I don't have!)


Duuh! Peach, Pink Cashmere, Nothing Compares 2 U and Pope were all new! If you were a fan and you had all the material before the release, there were still 2 new tracks on each of the three discs. It was a simple, marketing campaign.

The first two discs were as pointless or rewarding as the 3rd discs to many fans, as we already had the b-sides.
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Reply #41 posted 06/30/03 8:39am

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I think it would have been better if instead of releasing
2 seperate 'hits' discs, they had just released one.
Then for the fans they could have released some kind of
box set including b-sides and outtakes.

The problem was that 'hits' albums are really for the
casual listener, someone who hasn't got many (or even any)
Prince albums. Having 2 discs kinda worked against the
point of having a 'hits' album (unless they were packaged
as a double album). We, the fans, already have all the
'hits' so the only reasons for us to buy it would be the
inclusion of otherwise unavailable tracks or edits/mixes.
(or for the sake of being a completist).
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Reply #42 posted 06/30/03 9:39am

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I used to think that the whole greatest hits thing was a WB decision but after reading some of the replies here I can't say I believe that anymore. I own most of his stuff and I haven't bothered with the hits/b-sides cause like some other people said, if you already own the albums then the Hits/B-sides thing is a moot point. I just wound up borrowing someone's copy and dumping the new tunes onto my computer or downloading the B-sides I didnt' have. I wonder what kind of a deal he got because most artists don't make any revenue from the sales of their greatest hits packages and the record companies usually don't give them a choice as to whether/when they are going to release them. But having said that, Prince has such a huge voloume of material out, that a greatest hits package is almost necessary for the casual fan. Either way, it's a pretty well done package artistically, good pics, good tunes, and enough new material that the die hard fans could possible rationalize buying it. He may have made some business blunders in the past but this isn't one of them.
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