"Larry G is not Prince's problem it's these white folks who still live in the time era of 84 that's the problem."

I did not say this, btw. One of the few African American orgers said this to me.

It is evident by the action of this musicians that he has tried everything to distance him from that era.

It is clearly obvious that Prince has finally reached back into his black self. From the poems (Moors Poem), to the music (playing Jazz), to the lyrics (Family Name). As a country cracker, I have come to terms with this because I like the man's music.

95% of these prince.org fanatics are white led by it's leader with 520 cds and sits at home scanning photos and posting them, so there is the main problem and most live life on this purple dream that revolution will get back togeher again and rescue Prince from evil black man Larry.











Discuss.

i must be crazy...how did prince's music become a race issue ???


these types of threads make me crazy

Uh-oh.

justkelley said:

You may be right on the '80's bubbleballoon riders, but I can't see why Larry
Graham being a JW is in any way related to Larry Graham being an 'evil black man'.

And why did he do a Hit 'n Run - I still play all my oldies - Tour?


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[This message was edited Wed Jun 4 13:50:26 PDT 2003 by deMatthijs]

What's there to say? That's one man's opinion. He doesn't speak for all "African-Americans". Nor do I.

XLBubba said:

"white folks" have better things to do then go around trying to bleach the blackness out of "black folks"

The person that made those comments, is narrow-minded him/herself.

How are we supposed to try and get along when others put up walls like this? Then complain about not being treated equally.

deMatthijs said:

It has nothing to do with wanting the revolution days or for wanting that band to get back together. I think Prince has been making some amazing music as of late. It has to do with Larry introducing his poison on Prince's mind.

XLBubba said:

I really hate when people say that fans should stop living in that particular Prince era. My opinion is those fans are long gone. No way would I still be sticking around for the ride in anticipation of that Prince coming back. I have no ill feelings for Larry Graham. If he influenced Prince, ultimately, the decision is Prince's as to what kind of man to be. As for your attack on the orger in question: That shit is just uncalled for.

stymie said:

No read the posts.
They are still here.

bananacologne said:

XLBubba said:

It's equally valid to assert that 95% of prince.org is composed of no one defining racial background, where the people lead diverse, interesting lives from across the world, have - like yourself 'come to terms' - with Prince's music, and do not regard Larry Graham as the devil incarnate. They are not beholden to an individual who has 520 CDs, and whilst they might prefer one period of Prince's musical catalogue to another, they find something of interest across the years which keeps them coming back. Very few harbour an obsessive 'purple dream' based around some 'Revolution' reunion.

Most of the people here recognise that Prince has been more explicit about political and racial views in recent times, and that it may well be a reflection of his 'reaching back into his black self'. They also recognise that recent forays into jazz do not represent a totally new musical departure for Prince, and this exploration may or may not align with an increasing race awareness on his part. As for his poems, some people have read one unfinished lyric, and they have raised their eyebrows, leapt to their keyboards, cheered, laughed with embarassment or shrugged their shoulders - such has been the range of emotions it provoked - just like other things he has done in the past.
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XLBubba said:

Fuck. What horseshit. Who said all this again? May have 2 pay them a visit with my fist. Just an opinion, but what a fucked up 1. I myself have always loved P and his music. Always. What's this card that's been dealt here about race. Get out more dude, and find out the truth.

...s'like, fish bitin yet, xl?

this is ridiculous. i doubt that fans of a BLACK musician don't like the influence another BLACK musician has on him. like i've said many times before, racism only exists at this level because we don't let it die. statements like this perpetuate the seperation of the races. i think the issue most have with prince these days is not racial but a problem of exclusion. they can't connect to his music because his lyrics have a narrow view (again, this is not my opinion, just an observation on some). they (wrongfully) blame larry for this and that is also ridiculous. to turn it into a racial issue is just searching for a problem! Prince has always been looking for God. he has found Him (as far as he is concerned). some like the new avenue...some don't. let's leave color out of this.

Whoa there...

I agree it ain't 1984 anymore...but Prince is ALWAYS black...he wasn't white in '84 either...ALL his music is "black" because HE is "black"...there's enough pigeon-holing coming from white corporate America about what being "black" means...I say celebrate the man's diversity and his varied styles...they're all valid. Damn...don't be hatin' up on all da white folk...

Shut up...already...damn!

bananacologne said:

This post is also at alt.music.prince(AMP) sent in by somebody called "I Hate White Comedians" and he's pissing off a lot of people over there too.

PhilG said:

no wonder Rd told me to never go there...

I'm so sick of these race threads, it's a fucking chore coming to the .Org these days.I find threads like this repetitive and annoying.I never think about his race until it gets brought up.Even then, i don't particularly care what colour he is/isn't.I couldn't give a shit, honestly.

What bothers me is the boring music he's merrily churning out these days.

Maybe one reason why people are still "living in the 80's" is because there was no isssue of race with Prince. Prince and his band were easy to relate to by people of all races and sexes. Now he's spewing all types of bullshit that's doing nothing but parting the sea.

Larry is surely a highly manipulative character, but it's Prince's choice to let him rebuild his mind the way he has.

Plus, if Prince was at least making good music again, at least he's get a little slack, but these days, he's just a mess who needs to be swept under the rug.

oh boy

EvilWhiteMale said:

Pej - wake me when it's OVA bud...

XLBubba said:

Or ignore.

bananacologne said:

funny thing is that there is supposed to be something wrong with Prince, so somebody hopes, yet they or the ones who think like them ( ) keep coming to the Prince forum to check in and see what if we will discuss a bunch of BS that makes as much sense as the weapons of mass destruction tucked away in Iraq...Please... you can't get us started up in here, we already got you figured out...

ThreadBare said:

great minds think alike!!! ThreadBares got the right idea!!!

i don't really see the longing for nostalgia as being racially driven, it is a fuction of an artist with a long career and a hugely successful early portion of his career. from my avatar, you might guess that i'm a big zappa fan. i am. in the zappa community, there is a lot of mythology surrounding the original mothers and a big portion of folks who adamantly assert that the original mothers (i.e. 1966-1969) were hands down the best, and all of the other stuff pales in comparison. they wanted a re-union for decades and said all of the stuff people here say about the revolution.

by the way, who has 520 p cds??

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