A short while ago somebody sold a genuine '87 black album on Ebay for around £1500. The catalogue number for the record was "WB 1-25677". Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/...2529392918

The question is, I always thought the genuine catalogue number was "WX147", so what's the deal? Can anyone explain?

Lost for words.

i can!

whatcha got there is a copy of the black album that wuz 2 be released here in the u.s. ...it's said that only 6 copies of this particular catalogue number exist. 4 mo' info, look here!

another thing: the catalogue number's backwards....it should be 25677-1.

ahhh, geekdom...





geeklette edit.
[This message was edited Fri May 30 5:50:56 PDT 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

Thankyou for your answer!

Is it safe to say that the tracklisting is still the same, though?

okaypimpn said:

yeppies!

DarrenMawbey said:

wx147 is the type of # you'd see on a european wbr release.

the 25677 is the usa release.

not sure if the wx147 is the 1994 release, or if actual copies leaked in europe in 1987.

suomynona said:

quick follow-up: none of the 4 official versions i have, have the wx147 listed on it... (i have the japanese promo, the japanese cd album, the australian limited edition #'d release, and the usa version -- all from 1994.)

this page lists wx147 as a bootleg trying to fake the official 1987 release... (open the page, press control + f and do a search for wx147 on the page, you'll see it.)

this page lists wx147 as the european 1987 black album -- notice how the 25677 is broken up...)

i'd check your uptown fanzines for a definitive answer on the discrepency...

if you're serious about buying a copy the next time it comes on ebay, just beware. make sure you cover your butt with insurance and everything else. (meaning, don't buy from someone who has a 500 feedback rating but has never sold anything on ebay... don't buy from someone who won't guarantee your satisfaction, etc.)

suomynona said:

yup! that, and the link i provided earlier has a pic of the bootlegged version of the album as an example so u can tell it's a fake...but the site's down 4 the day

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

use the url at www.archive.org ... it may come up there (or cached at google.)

suomynona said:

still doesn't work...oh well. it might be back up later on

Thanks again for all these answers to the question.

WX147 is definitely the cat number for a genuine '87 release, but I just wasn't sure of the existence of the other cat number (25677). Thanks to you, I now understand it to relate to the planned US '87 release, so as you say, WX147 must have related to the planned European release only.

Thanks!

DarrenMawbey said:

correct... now the question is, are there any circulating with the wx147 on it / did any leak in europe.

o-tay...here's the one i wuz referrin 2 earlier, the fake one...look closely.






look at my edit
[This message was edited Fri May 30 10:13:04 PDT 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

and this is the german release...accordin 2 this, wx147 wuz never even released (tho' some copies did 'develop legs' and walk off ).

u may be dealin with a fake there...like i said, double check.



arggggg, edit!
[This message was edited Fri May 30 10:24:23 PDT 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

your a bit of a brainiac

pejman said:

yeah, 2 much of one...

dayum... you guys are good. seriously good!!!

--gm--

GeneMohawk said:

thanx, gene!

I'll have to check my records tonight. I know I bought this LP in 1987 for $50 (Canadian) but I think it was that expensive because it was a European import. I remember that they had two versions, the one I bought which was flat black with P's image in glossy black, the other had him on the cover wearing that frilly coat from the "U got the look" video (which I think was cheaper: $30?). Someone told me the second one wasn't very good quality so I bought the more expensive one.
Anyway, mine isn't sealed so it would probably be worthless.
Interesting post though.

JASONP32 said:

both of those are Bootlegs...

Finess said:

yup, that's what i'd figured, 2. you've been had, man...

Thanks for the info about these being bootlegs. But I don't think I've been "had." Being had would mean I paid $2600 for a boot that I thought was 1 of 6. In 1987 I wanted this new album and it was only available as an "import." I was willing to pay $50 for it and it was worth every penny. I would have been lost when he did Bob George during the Lovesexy tour in Toronto without it.

JASONP32 said:

mmm, true...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Don't see how anyone could possibly mistake this for an original. The big red "Warning this is a boot" completely gives it away. Only a fool would miss this one.

TheEnglishGent said:

yeah, but say u were 2 get a copy of this in your hands and u don't know the difference between the real thing and a boot. that up there's just a "if it looks like this, ya got a bootlegg"-type deal. a warnin, i suppose.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I know, was just being silly.

TheEnglishGent said: