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Reply #30 posted 05/15/03 4:28am

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And after the altercation, the sexual tension in that room must have been pretty high...

There was only one thing left to do:

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Reply #31 posted 05/15/03 6:16am

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DavidEye said:

ian said:



I gotta say that Sinéad's version of NC2U shits on all others from a great height. woot! Sinéad!




I agree.In fact,I don't even like The Family's original version of this song.The Prince/Rosie duet from 'The Hits' was cool,but Sinead's version has the most drama and emotion,imo.


Well a few years ago I read were she said that this incident did not happen. Why would she lie about something like this or change the story later.

I have always wondered if Steve had something to do with this. Just about everyone that worked for Prince had bad things to say about him.
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Reply #32 posted 05/15/03 6:26am

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Yeah,a few years ago she was downplaying these accusations,changing her story and saying that she and Prince only got into a pillow fight...lol...Sinead is one strange girl indeed smile
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Reply #33 posted 05/15/03 9:15am

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I saw a short snippet which was recorded recently where Sinead was praising Prince's songwriting on NCTU. She said that it's rare for a man to portray such true emotion in a song. She also called him a "manchild", in a nice way biggrin

She didn't sound pissed off with Prince so maybe these events didn't happen. Who knows.
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Reply #34 posted 05/15/03 9:16am

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DavidEye said:

Yeah,a few years ago she was downplaying these accusations,changing her story and saying that she and Prince only got into a pillow fight...lol...Sinead is one strange girl indeed smile
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Reply #35 posted 05/15/03 9:55am

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DavidEye said:

ian said:



I gotta say that Sinéad's version of NC2U shits on all others from a great height. woot! Sinéad!




I agree.In fact,I don't even like The Family's original version of this song.The Prince/Rosie duet from 'The Hits' was cool,but Sinead's version has the most drama and emotion,imo.




I'll tell you who sings this song the best(without sounding like I'm on his nutsack) that is...The one who wrote the tune!!! Prince better than the Family or Sinead live in the NUDE tour video!!!
[This message was edited Thu May 15 9:56:06 PDT 2003 by pejman]
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Reply #36 posted 05/15/03 9:57am

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On an old episode of Vh1's pop-up video, they were playing the video 4 "Nothing compares 2 U" and they actually talked about this story. They said it was rumored 2 have happened, but had got word that Prince actually sent her a "thank U" card 4 making the song a hit...who knows.
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Reply #37 posted 05/15/03 9:59am

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Sineads version is stellar no doubt..but to say that the orignal version and Princes (his track only that was copied by Paul etc) as no good or blown out of the water? wtf? The original keeps the soul and the remake by Sinead takes different ethereal approach..both good interpretations. But to deny the orignal(with the sinigng and Erics sax) AND Princes guide version..disbelief

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Reply #38 posted 05/15/03 10:09am

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pejman said:


I'll tell you who sings this song the best(without sounding like I'm on his nutsack) that is...The one who wrote the tune!!! Prince better than the Family or Sinead live in the NUDE tour video!!!


Hmmm, I think that Sineads version still has more impact then the Nude Tour video version. Although it can't be denied that I love the end when Prince lies on the heart with his arms outstretched, like he's Jesus or something!
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Reply #39 posted 05/15/03 10:20am

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ConsciousContact said:

pejman said:


I'll tell you who sings this song the best(without sounding like I'm on his nutsack) that is...The one who wrote the tune!!! Prince better than the Family or Sinead live in the NUDE tour video!!!


Hmmm, I think that Sineads version still has more impact then the Nude Tour video version. Although it can't be denied that I love the end when Prince lies on the heart with his arms outstretched, like he's Jesus or something!




No doubt Sinead took the song to another level than when the Family sang it she made it a commercial success. As far as her style of singing it (to me) it was alright but seeing Prince sing it in the NUDE show made me recognize how nice of a song it really is... That's just my opinion... Before he layed on the heart Jesus style he sang that song with passion.
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Reply #40 posted 05/15/03 10:34am

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pejman said:

ConsciousContact said:

pejman said:


I'll tell you who sings this song the best(without sounding like I'm on his nutsack) that is...The one who wrote the tune!!! Prince better than the Family or Sinead live in the NUDE tour video!!!


Hmmm, I think that Sineads version still has more impact then the Nude Tour video version. Although it can't be denied that I love the end when Prince lies on the heart with his arms outstretched, like he's Jesus or something!




No doubt Sinead took the song to another level than when the Family sang it she made it a commercial success. As far as her style of singing it (to me) it was alright but seeing Prince sing it in the NUDE show made me recognize how nice of a song it really is... That's just my opinion... Before he layed on the heart Jesus style he sang that song with passion.


the best version is on a bootleg called 'Nudity' (tour rehearsals for the Nude tour)

Prince never sang it better or more heartfelt IMO.Even though Rosie was there, it's just Prince singing.A truly beautiful rendition.
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Reply #41 posted 05/15/03 1:59pm

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C-SINEAD-OCONNOR-RETIRE-NYT
SINEAD O'CONNOR TO RETIRE, BUT FOR HOW LONG?
By BRIAN LAVERY
New York Times
DUBLIN, Ireland -- When Sinead O'Connor announced her retirement from the music business last week, the press here dutifully took note, with small newspaper articles tucked in the back pages. But the public seemingly failed to notice the departure of a singer who was once Ireland's biggest, and at times most notorious, international star.

The reaction may have been muted because O'Connor has done this before: in 1992, after a crowd at Madison Square Garden booed her off the stage during a Bob Dylan tribute concert, and in 1999, when she was ordained a priest in the Latin Tridentine Church, a fringe splinter group of Roman Catholicism. (She gave up the priesthood after only three months.)

While friends and associates urge respect for O'Connor's announcement that she would leave the spotlight at the age of 36, many also do not believe that she will stay in retirement, citing what they say is her intense personal and emotional need to keep singing.

The news came in a message on her Web site (www.sineadoconnor.com) and was confirmed by a spokeswoman from her American distributor, Vanguard Records. O'Connor wrote that she would retire in July -- after recording tracks for a Dolly Parton tribute album and an album by the Irish musician Sharon Shannon, and after completing a DVD of her live performances -- "in order to pursue a different career," without saying what that might be.

In the late 1980s she followed U2 to become one of Ireland's first rock stars since Van Morrison. She remains best known for her 1990 hit, a remake of the Prince song "Nothing Compares 2 U," which went to No. 1 in 17 countries. Her work provoked debate even then, as details emerged about a dispute with Prince, who she said physically threatened her.

To avoid becoming a sex symbol, O'Connor shaved her head and wore baggy clothes, a fashion move credited with paving the way for brashly protofeminist performers like Liz Phair, Courtney Love and Alanis Morissette.

In 1992 she alienated American audiences by refusing to appear on "Saturday Night Live" when the host was Andrew Dice Clay, who she said was a misogynist. When she later appeared on the show with a different host, she tore up a picture of Pope John Paul II on camera, which led to her negative reception at the Dylan tribute. She threatened to refuse to sing in New Jersey if the "Star Spangled Banner" were played before her concert.

Over the course of the 1990s such acts led to relentless scrutiny by the press of her personal life and her failed marriages. Many people here came to dismiss her statements as publicity stunts or simply eccentric behavior, which eventually came to eclipse her singing career.

"No sooner was she this major pop star than she was out of that arena," said John Kelly, a disc jockey and music journalist who has interviewed O'Connor many times. (She would not be interviewed for this article.) "She dipped her toe in superstardom American style."

Still, when she tore up the photograph of the pope (which had belonged to the singer's mother and was taken during Pope John Paul II's visit to Ireland in 1979), it was viewed, if grudgingly, as a courageous move, since scandals were just beginning to shake the Roman Catholic Church's dominant role in Irish society.

"People respected that to a far greater extent here" than in the United States, said Niall Stokes, the editor of the Irish music magazine Hot Press.

Because no female Irish performers had ever achieved such levels of success and international recognition, "every woman performer in Ireland now has to have Sinead as a kind of touchstone," Stokes said. Musicians like Dolores O'Riordan, lead singer of the band the Cranberries, have been strongly influenced by O'Connor's singing style, he said.

In recent years O'Connor has collaborated with bands like Asian Dub Foundation and Massive Attack. In 2002 she released an album of traditional Irish songs called "Sean-Nos Nua" -- Gaelic for "new old-style," a reference to the traditional sean-nos style of singing, on which she was backed by some of Ireland's foremost traditional musicians.

Recently O'Connor has tempered her public profile and now fiercely guards her privacy. In 1999, after an Irish newspaper reported her romance with a British journalist she later married, she wrote a furious, expletive-laden missive to the media, and male reporters in particular.

In her message to her fans last week she wrote: "I want to be like any other person in the street and not have people say, "There is Sinead O'Connor.' As I am a very shy person, believe it or not." She added: "I am glad that ye are helped by my songs. So help me too, by giving me what is best for me, a private life."

She urged people to let her and other celebrities alone, pleading with fans not to bang on restaurant windows when they see a celebrity inside or to ask for autographs or pictures.

"That's pieces of them," she wrote. "And one day they wake up with nothing left of themselves to give."

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Reply #42 posted 05/15/03 7:12pm

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I read in a English publication (I can't remember which one it was in the early 90s) where she stated that not only did he hold her hostage and then left her without a ride, but when she was leaving his house, he got in his car and chased her down like he was gonna run over her.

Maybe it did happen, who knows or maybe the European press were making stuff up and adding on to the story. Am I the only one that read this part about the car? I guess she got over it.

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Reply #43 posted 05/15/03 7:29pm

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Sinead probably had such big crush on Prince...She probably was like: love When she saw him...
Then when she knew he wasnt feeling her like that...suddenly it was: "Lets shoot2 Prince down".

Sinead...falloff what was the real deal girl?? big grin
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Reply #44 posted 05/15/03 7:44pm

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IMO...Sinead's version is leagues above any of the various incarnations of the song I've heard Prince do. In fact, it's become a "bathroom song" for me at shows...a time when I know it's safe to leave cos I ain't gonna miss a damn thing... I give him credit for writing the song, but Sinead gave it a spark and a flame that it never had with Prince. Seriously, do you think he'd have started playing that song again if it wasn't for her version? IMO, he was JEALOUS of how good it was and has tried to make it his own again...

As for this story...lord only knows if this was true or not...Sinead's as nutty as they come and so is Prince, so I don't know who to believe...
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Reply #45 posted 05/15/03 11:03pm

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i'm with endorphin74. what HE said...

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Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

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Reply #46 posted 05/16/03 2:56am

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A few months after this story broke,I read an interview with Sinead and she was saying that she would never perform "Nothing Compares 2 U" ever again.She said that she needed time to "separate the song from the writer".


Oddly enough,when Prince's 'Diamonds And Pearls' CD came out in late 1991,he thanked O'Connor in the credits.
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Reply #47 posted 05/16/03 3:04am

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Oddly enough,when Prince's 'Diamonds And Pearls' CD came out in late 1991,he thanked O'Connor in the credits.[/quote]


rolling stone interview in 1990 or whatever, when prince is doing graffiti bridge, prince talks lots about sinead, he goes on and on about how much he loves the version, saying he took the song as dar as it could go or something, he seemed very complimentary really
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Reply #48 posted 05/16/03 4:23am

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softandwet said:

Oddly enough,when Prince's 'Diamonds And Pearls' CD came out in late 1991,he thanked O'Connor in the credits.



rolling stone interview in 1990 or whatever, when prince is doing graffiti bridge, prince talks lots about sinead, he goes on and on about how much he loves the version, saying he took the song as dar as it could go or something, he seemed very complimentary really[/quote]



Yeah,I remember that interview from the August 1990 issue of Rolling Stone.The incident with Sinead actually occured a few months later (assuming it happened at all!).
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