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People PLEASE help settle this debate - Correct lyrics to Tamborine See the debate thread below between Jestyr and I.
I say Prince is saying "Troubling" Jestyr says Prince is singing "Tamborine" I'm sure the masses will agree with Jestyr but I wanted to know if I'm the only one who hears the lyrics correctly 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: See the debate thread below between Jestyr and I.
I say Prince is saying "Troubling" Jestyr says Prince is singing "Tamborine" I'm sure the masses will agree with Jestyr but I wanted to know if I'm the only one who hears the lyrics correctly did you read them? | |
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I always thought he said "Toupee Machine."
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The song is about Masterbation
...all alone by my self me and I play my tamborine...Troubling! Jestyr said Is that what he says? Sounds like "Trampoline" to me.
Supafunky said Nope, it's "troubling". Listen carefully and you will hear it.
Troubling as in being troubled at having to play by himself and not with someone else. Jestyr said Oh my God. Talk about reading too much into it. Someone has guilt issues.
SupaFunky said so which do you prefer? Play alone or with someone else?
Jestyr said [color=red:91419d5f2a:63954a7303:53b197d0a2:341c619178:283f10e003:008ea15f06:ab7de0e201:b6e9a11beb:bf5df9b028]I like it both ways. SupaFunky said I have only read into it what's there And as far as guilt, I have none whether I'm alone or with someone else. I love shaking the Tamborine
Jestyr said [color=red:91419d5f2a:63954a7303:53b197d0a2:341c619178:283f10e003:008ea15f06:ab7de0e201:b6e9a11beb:bf5df9b028]He does not sing '...troubling', but I suggest you may be hearing that because you prefer it with someone else SupaFunky said He does sing "Troubling". I can hear it and if you listen carefully you will too. It totally makes sense in context to the song.
oh my god here you are prettiest thing in life I've ever seen close my eyes what's it like what's it like inside your tamborine oh my god there I go, falling in love with a face in magazine (uh-oh not again) all alone by myself me and I play my tamborine Troubling! Trampoline makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, however Troubling does. Jestyr said No 'grinder, he doesn't sing 'troubling' or 'trampoline', either. A line like that would be included in the lyrics which are listed in the CD booklet and on the album sleeve. However, a background vocal repeating the title phrase does not need to be printed. I know it might sound like he's saying something else, but he is singing 'tamborine' with a higher and faster counterpoint vocal also singing 'tamborine' and those overlaps and the goofy phrasing he uses, cause it to sound like it's another word.
SupaFunky said You are waaay off on this one. There are a million examples where the lyrics to a Prince song does not match those in the booklet.
You need to go back and listen because there is clearly a TR sounding word. And "Troubling" makes even more sense in context to this: Lonely lonely nights...Troubling Lonely lonely nights...Troubling Troubling as in being lonely and having noone to play with but yourself. I have this pegged so hard. You need to open up your mind and let the truth flow. I'm telling you I'm on the mark with this one Jestyr said It sounds like a "tr.." sound because he is slurring his vocals to exemplify his aggravation. The background vocals repeat the title phrase throughout the entire song. You're gonna believe what you want anyway, but this is one case where you couldn't be more off the mark. We should be sure to remember to ask him next time we get a chance. SupaFunky said I agree that he is singing tamboring in the background throughout the song but that TR sound is no slur. And why would he have to slur to exemplify his aggravation when he's already exemplifying his aggravation by telling you he's troubled at having to be alone. Lonely lonely nights...Troubling You are stuck hearing what you have heard the whole time. Free your mind and perhaps your ass will follow Jestyr said Who's stuck? You are, brother. You made this little thing up in your own mind and are now completely intransigent about it. Your argument above is totally cyclical and carries no logic whatsoever. If he is attempting to exemplify his aggrevation (not exagerration), why would he have to limit it to one way? Couldn't he slur his vocal AND talk about being lonely? My point is he is NOT using the word 'troubling' - not that he ISN'T troubled by being alone and having to play his tamborine. (which is what he is singing in the background) I've seen examples of official lyrics being misprinted, but generally they are entire lines or portions of lines changed (chaos and disorder comes to mind because the original lyric printed in NPG magazine said something about downing a 40 and he sings something about 40 days of being played ain't proud). But really - logically - why would the printer leave out one word in that song when the rest of the lyrics for the entire record are all perfectly correct? SupaFunky said Man... I corrected the word exageration to aggravation. I typed it up so fast that I typed the wrong word... Still does not negate my point. My argument is completely and totally logical. What is more logical that he's singing Trampoline (doesn't make any sense whatsoever) or Tamborine (which I would give you if not for the clear sound of TR) or Troubling (especially since you can hear this is what he sings when he breaks down the word Tra-bo-ling) When I first heard this line correctly I was listening to the album with a friend of mine and it was exactly like an epiphany because we both heard it correctly at the same time and both turned to each other and said "Troubling!" I suppose my friend is delusional too... You concede that he could be troubled at spending lonely nights by himself...Why is it so hard to believe that he is saying Troubling? I can't believe people are being so hard headed on this. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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2the9s said: I always thought he said "Toupee Machine."
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Oh my God here U are
Prettiest thing in life I've ever seen Close my eyes what's it like, What's it like inside your tamborine? Oh my God, there I go Falling in love with the face in a magazine (uh oh, not again) All alone by myself Me and I play my tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine I don't care 4 1 night stands With trolley cars That juggle 17 I just want 2 settle down and Play around My baby's tamborine Tamborine what are U Why are U the star of All my dreams (Star of all my dreams, are U a good tamborine) Are U good, are U bad Are U just unnecessary means Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Trolley cars Long days, lonely nights 2 bad we're not allowed 2 scream (yeah, yeah, too bad) Guess that I'll stay at home All alone and play my tamborine (aww) Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine The tamborine ©1985 Controversy Music - ASCAP | |
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In all seriousness... I swear some of the background vox are singing Trampoline. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Oh my God here U are
Prettiest thing in life I've ever seen Close my eyes what's it like, What's it like inside your tamborine? Oh my God, there I go Falling in love with the face in a magazine (uh oh, not again) All alone by myself Me and I play my tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine I don't care 4 1 night stands With trolley cars That juggle 17 I just want 2 settle down and Play around My baby's tamborine Tamborine what are U Why are U the star of All my dreams (Star of all my dreams, are U a good tamborine) Are U good, are U bad Are U just unnecessary means Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Trolley cars Long days, lonely nights 2 bad we're not allowed 2 scream (yeah, yeah, too bad) Guess that I'll stay at home All alone and play my tamborine (aww) Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine The tamborine ©1985 Controversy Music - ASCAP Snapz, did you read the thread? I know what the lyric sheets say but you know as well as I do that the lyrics aren't always correctly printed... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Snapz, did you read the thread? I know what the lyric sheets say but you know as well as I do that the lyrics aren't always correctly printed...
hell if i know, i've only heard all of atwiad once, and that wuz years ago. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Snapz, did you read the thread? I know what the lyric sheets say but you know as well as I do that the lyrics aren't always correctly printed...
hell if i know, i've only heard all of atwiad once, and that wuz years ago. Are you kidding??!!! Run your ass out right now and pick up a copy. That album is incredible. One of my faves 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Hey, I was the one who said "Trampoline." The Normal Whores Club | |
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FunkMistress said: Hey, I was the one who said "Trampoline."
No you're not | |
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For what it is worth, the lyrics in the sheet music book for 'Around The World in A Day' (Warner Bros Publications Inc.) are:
Tamborine Oh my God, here u are, Prettiest thing in life I've ever seen. (whistle) Close my eyes, what's it like? What's it like inside your tamborine? Oh my God, there I go, Falling in love with a face in a magazine, (whistle) All alone by myself, me and I play my tamborine. Troubleing Troubleing Troubleing Troubleing Long days and lonely nghts Troubleing Long days and lonely nights Troubleing I don't care 4 1 night stands with trolley cars that juggle seventeen. I just want 2 settle down and play around my baby's tamborine. Tamborine, what are u? Why are u the star of all my dreams? (Star of all my dreams, are u a good tamborine?) Are u good, are u bad, are u just unnecessary means. Troubleing Tamborine Tamborine Trolley cars Long days, lonely nights; 2 bad we're not allowed 2 scream (Oh yeah, too bad) Guess that I'll stay at home, all alone and play my tamborine Ah (ah! ah! ah!) Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine The tamborine. These are the lyrics as transcribed to accompany the sheet music, and include background vocals and lyrics not included in the lyrics detailed on the album sleeve. The sheet music book also includes the lyrics for the whole album (as presented in the gatefold sleeve of the album) at the front, allowing comparison. . [This message was edited Fri May 9 14:58:21 PDT 2003 by langebleu] ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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chickengrease said: FunkMistress said: Hey, I was the one who said "Trampoline."
No you're not In the original thread I was! Great minds just think alike, dumbass. The Normal Whores Club | |
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langebleu said: For what it is worth, the lyrics in the sheet music book for 'Around The World in A Day' (Warner Bros Publications Inc.) are:
Tamborine Oh my God, here u are, Prettiest thing in life I've ever seen. (whistle) Close my eyes, what's it like? What's it like inside your tamborine? Oh my God, there I go, Falling in love with a face in a magazine, (whistle) All alone by myself, me and I play my tamborine. Troubleing Troubleing Troubleing Troubleing Long days and lonely nghts Troubleing Long days and lonely nights Troubleing I don't care 4 1 night stands with trolley cars that juggle seventeen. I just want 2 settle down and play around my baby's tamborine. Tamborine, what are u? Why are u the star of all my dreams? (Star of all my dreams, are u a good tamborine?) Are u good, are u bad, are u just unnecessary means. Troubleing Tamborine Tamborine Trolley cars Long days, lonely nights; 2 bad we're not allowed 2 scream (Oh yeah, too bad) Guess that I'll stay at home, all alone and play my tamborine Ah (ah! ah! ah!) Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine The tamborine. These are the lyrics as transcribed to accompany the sheet music. The sheet music book also includes the lyrics for the whole album (as presented in the gatefold sleeve of the album) at the front. . [This message was edited Fri May 9 14:54:29 PDT 2003 by langebleu] Nice try; but you gave it away with: (Oh yeah, too bad) when it's (nyah nyah - 2 bad) | |
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Jestyr said: Nice try; but you gave it away with:
Nice try too - but I actually gave it away when I started off by saying 'for what it is worth...'
(Oh yeah, too bad) when it's (nyah nyah - 2 bad) I'm not stating what I hear. I'm not stating categorically it's one thing or another that he sings. I'm just copying verbatim from the lyric book ('Tamborine' is on pp 24-30) which also says: (Bars 63 - 64) 'Oh yeah, too bad'. . [This message was edited Fri May 9 15:12:27 PDT 2003 by langebleu] ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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langebleu said: Jestyr said: Nice try; but you gave it away with:
Nice try too - but I actually gave it away when I started off by saying 'for what it is worth...'
(Oh yeah, too bad) when it's (nyah nyah - 2 bad) I'm not stating what I hear. I'm just copying verbatim from the lyric book ('Tamborine' is on pp 24-30) which also says: (Bars 63 - 64) 'Oh yeah, too bad' Scans? Regardless, this lyric book is clearly wrong. Might have been transcribed by an outside company by ear. Even 'grinder would admit that 'nyah nyah' part was incorrect. | |
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do the peeps in Minn have a different accent when saying the word Tamborine? -------------------------------------------------
MENACE TO SOBRIETY | |
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Jestyr said: langebleu said: Jestyr said: Nice try; but you gave it away with:
Nice try too - but I actually gave it away when I started off by saying 'for what it is worth...'
(Oh yeah, too bad) when it's (nyah nyah - 2 bad) I'm not stating what I hear. I'm just copying verbatim from the lyric book ('Tamborine' is on pp 24-30) which also says: (Bars 63 - 64) 'Oh yeah, too bad' Scans? Regardless, this lyric book is clearly wrong. Might have been transcribed by an outside company by ear. Even 'grinder would admit that 'nyah nyah' part was incorrect. Yes, I agee that they got the Nyah Nyah part wrong. But I am glad to see they transcribed Troubling correctly! And this proves that I'm not making shit up. At least one transcription company agreed with what I am hearing 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Scans?
I've given you the page numbers, I've given you the bars it features in. I give the catalogue number below. I'm not saying the lyric book is correct. I'm just saying 'for what it is worth'. Yes, the lyric book could well be wrong (I never claimed it was correct). But your argument doesn't mean the inaccuracy you have spotted makes 'troubleing' wrong. 1. It could be transcribed by someone else: (great spot - these books often are - Prince doesn't tend to sit down and write the notes out for Warner Bros. Publications.) 2. It could be transcribed by ear. That's exactly what you and Supa are doing. (Sometimes the person who transcribes the lyrics and music is credited in the official books - this one was printed in the USA and has the identification VS1235 on the spine but no reference to the transcriber.) 2. The transcriber stated 'oh yeah' instead of 'nyah nyah'. If 'Oh yeah' is incorrect it simply invalidates those specific lyrics and challenges the credibility of the transcriber's accuracy in transcribing other lyrics, or the printer who typeset it, or the proof reader, or whoever was in the supply chain for producing the lyrics. It doesn't make 'troubleing' incorrect - nor does it make it right. . [This message was edited Fri May 9 15:31:14 PDT 2003 by langebleu] ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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langebleu said: Scans?
I've given you the page numbers, I've given you the bars it features in. I give the catalogue number below. I'm not saying the lyric book is correct. I'm just saying 'for what it is worth'. Yes, the lyric book could well be wrong (I never claimed it was correct). But your argument doesn't mean the inaccuracy you have spotted makes 'troubleing' wrong. 1. It could be transcribed by someone else: (great spot - these books often are - Prince doesn't tend to sit down and write the notes out for Warner Bros. Publications.) 2. It could be transcribed by ear. That's exactly what you and Supa are doing. (Sometimes the person who transcribes the lyrics and music is credited in the official books - this one was printed in the USA and has the identification VS1235 on the spine but no reference to the transcriber.) 2. The transcriber stated 'oh yeah' instead of 'nyah nyah'. If 'Oh yeah' is incorrect it simply invalidates those specific lyrics and challenges the credibility of the transcriber's accuracy in transcribing other lyrics, or the printer who typeset it, or the proof reader, or whoever was in the supply chain for producing the lyrics. It doesn't make 'troubleing' incorrect - nor does it make it right. . [This message was edited Fri May 9 15:31:14 PDT 2003 by langebleu] My final thought is that the transcriber has proved his own incompetence by spelling troubling - "troubleing". Amatuers. | |
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Jestyr said: My final thought is that the transcriber has proved his own incompetence by spelling troubling - "troubleing". Amatuers. It's 'amateurs'.ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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langebleu said: Jestyr said: My final thought is that the transcriber has proved his own incompetence by spelling troubling - "troubleing". Amatuers. It's 'amateurs'.At least mine was a typo. | |
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langebleu said: Jestyr said: My final thought is that the transcriber has proved his own incompetence by spelling troubling - "troubleing". Amatuers. It's 'amateurs'.LOL! :LOL: 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I have been completely vindicated! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I have been completely vindicated!
So it WAS a popularity contest after all... I think maybe it's your boyfriend who should be spanked. | |
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Jestyr said: langebleu said: Jestyr said: My final thought is that the transcriber has proved his own incompetence by spelling troubling - "troubleing". Amatuers. It's 'amateurs'.At least mine was a typo. Again - for what they are worth - and they will obviously mean the world to Supa and jackshit to Jestyr - here are a couple of scans including typos (or do I mean highly accurate transcriptions)??? http://www.wychwood.org/photos/t1.JPG http://www.wychwood.org/photos/t2.JPG ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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Jestyr said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I have been completely vindicated!
So it WAS a popularity contest after all... I think maybe it's your boyfriend who should be spanked. Honey, it wasn't about popularity but showing you the way the truth and the light I am right! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Oh my God here U are
Prettiest thing in life I've ever seen Close my eyes what's it like, What's it like inside your tamborine? Oh my God, there I go Falling in love with the face in a magazine (uh oh, not again) All alone by myself Me and I play my tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine Long days, lonely nights Tamborine I don't care 4 1 night stands With trolley cars That juggle 17 I just want 2 settle down and Play around My baby's tamborine Tamborine what are U Why are U the star of All my dreams (Star of all my dreams, are U a good tamborine) Are U good, are U bad Are U just unnecessary means Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Trolley cars Long days, lonely nights 2 bad we're not allowed 2 scream (yeah, yeah, too bad) Guess that I'll stay at home All alone and play my tamborine (aww) Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine Tamborine The tamborine ©1985 Controversy Music - ASCAP DAMN...I thought I read in another post that you were missing AWIAD? Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ | |
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Doozer said: DAMN...I thought I read in another post that you were missing AWIAD?
i am, i grabbed those lyrix off of some prince lyrix site | |
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