I'm not disputing it, but how do you know Manuella is level headed and a grounding force for him?[/quote]



I just do ...

and I expect more amazing stuff from him in the coming
years.

VelvetSplash said:

Now how the hell is Prince going to even want to try and "explain his personality"? What the fuck? Who does that? Nobody.What you are saying is tantamount to somebody saying "here let me explain my psyche and my whole being to you". Huh?? The point remains..refucking-gardless if Hahn is praising Prince for the beginning of his career etc, so what. He is being biased and slanted in the whole scheme of things. Pre-90's and during. Nobody..not even the devil..is "mean" and "cruel" 24-7 365 days a year. Dont u get it? Lord. People wake the fuck up. Folks say Prince aint got a right to complain about WB because they were not ALL bad..and thats correct. And Prince is not ALL bad either. Make it seem like Prince wakes his band mates and girlfriends up with a hot poker and makes them walk on hot coals for 78 hours. Just like Prince was a grown assed man in his dealings with WB that everyone says, and to take his lumps, so are these neer'do wells bandmembers, loves, associates etc who are grown ass people. They know Princes discipline etc when they enter th fracas. To report as if there were never good times and only evil and terro is fucking stupid point blank. And anyone who believes it is is also fucking stupid point fucking blank.

rdhull said:

check-muthafunkin-mate!

Anybody who fails to realize the flash point of Hahn's role in Prince's career
and is gullible enough to think he has no agenda, hey that's fine.
Que sera, sera. But don't expect people who can actually see the forest
for the trees to share that gullibility.

Supernova said:

Word the fuck up. And seeing the forest is simply common sense..which most of these Hahnists and grown assed men acting like little girls in their blind negativity are plain DUMB.

addin' a few thing to my obserbvations list



6. May I remind all of you pro-hahn people just exactly who this guy is? As stated many times, he had an axe to grind

7.I'm sorry, but I still have a problem with this "source" stuff. I mean, isn't that the same kinda shit the enquire uses? Why is it guys like per didn't use all of this "inside source" shit?
I mean, hell, even Wendy and Lisa wouldn't talk.

8.This guy is obviously one of those bittr fans. You know, the ones who expect him to go back in time and magicly reate "purple Rain 2"
I'm sorry, but I find it vey hard to beleive that this guy just wanted to write a book about Prince just cause he was a fan.

9. Another thing: what's up with all of the negativity in this book? Can't hahn say one nice thing about Prince post 89?

So sure, jump on me and say what I'm saying nonsense, cause what I'm saying is the truth.

VelvetSplash said:

Excuse me? That's why you see people like Vanity, Apollonia, St. Paul, Jesse Jonhson, Wendy & Lisa, Jimmy Jam, Brownmark, Chick, ect. talkin' about him, right?
I mean, do you know how much Fink has said about him?


Another thing i refuse to beleive, that Prince can have that much power over his ex-employees/lovers. If that was true, believe me, he would've takin' a lot of people to court by now
Give me a break.
[This message was edited Tue May 13 22:29:13 PDT 2003 by lovebizzare]

rdhull said:

Tank you. Yet another thing I've never been able to undertsand, why do you always want him to explain himself. i mean, damn, maybe if you back the fuck up offa brutha he would talk more.

And the thing that gets me the most is that when he does talk ya'll are ready to jump down his throat and say he's lying. I mean, what do you want? Him to give an interview while have his hand on a stack of bibles? I swear, some of you h=guys are never saticfied. It must be pretty fucking depressing to have fans like that

I could never understand how someone could be open minded and see things only one way. I guess I never will,
it is obvious to me that there are alot of Prince haters writing here, and don't give me that I've got my head up his ass BS. I know Prince is not Perfect and nobody commenting here is either, If a person never talked to me, never asked me anything, and only talked to few people that know me, and those people were evasive, and spoke of hear say over and over and over again. I would say that the only way to silence that person would be not to listen to them.

I have talked with Sheila E. and she told me with her own mouth that Prince is the most generous person that she has ever known, and he treats the people that he Loves like they are the only People on the Earth. She also said that They were engaged but he wasn't ready, But overall he is a very Kind and Loving Friend. Not hearsay, Sheila Knows him and has remained friends threw it all. Now if you want to know something, then talk to someone who knows.

And please take your Foot out of his Ass then take your head out of anyone who says something negative about Prince's Ass.

This is probably old news,but at the Billboard site,they're printing excerpts from this book on their front news page.Go to www.Billboard.com and scroll down,they are doing a 4-part series.

rdhull said:

Print and save. Loved the bit about the hot poker and coals.

VelvetSplash said:[quote]

rdhull said:

Seems as if he goes to great pains to make sure that none of the stuff that Wendy and Lisa may have had a hand in was criticized. Even though there was plenty to dross in the back catalogue from 80-89

Wow, I never realised how venomous some Prince fans can get when their idol takes a little criticism.

VelvetSplash said:

Oh don't even try it..try to go the "oh their idol got a teeny weeny bit of criticism and they cant take it " route. You know damn well thats not the point. The point is all we are doing is countering blind stupidity. Your prize for even trying to play that shit is a set of steak knives.

edit:and the only reason I mentioned bvlind stupidity is becasue it is, noting personal against anyone. But if this type of reporting and writing were used for another person or sunbject you know good and well that you would IMMEDIATELY dismiss the book as shoddy work and not worth it. So it's about prince etc and his "personality" and all of a sudden all common sense flies out the window?= STUPID/DUMB

and dont try to be slick with code word such as "venomous" and "idol"...becasue you seem to be using only those words with anti-crap writing folks but dont seem to use them with those who are veehemently and have a record of longstanding vehement "venom" against prince for obsessive reasons.


Uptown and others lost any credibility with Possesed edit
[This message was edited Wed May 14 8:41:15 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

I just don't see what the problem is with the book.

OK so he defended Uptown whom Prince tried to shaft for no good reason other than he didn't like fans who worked on literature about him that he didn't control or have a say in, so of course he has an agenda when writing the book - the agenda being Prince isn't all splits, twirls and harmonies.

Is that the definition of a 'tabloid-esque' book? Something that doesn't show the subject in an entirely positive light?

I'm still hard pushed to see anyone saying what is specifically wrong in the book - i.e, people keep saying it's "trashy, sleazy, tabloid, hearsay", but can anyone give examples of these?

VelvetSplash said:

1. How unfortunate

2. I believe you

VelvetSplash said:

and he isn't all bad either



if its all thats there and biased and one sided to that ageneda that you admitted to above..then u tell me. Were u raised on earth or elsewhere?

tsk tsk edit
[This message was edited Wed May 14 9:10:45 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

rdhull said:

Come on then, please tell me what is so bad about this book, I'm dying to know. All this negativity about the book on this board, even before anyone read it, and I still can't see what the fuss is about.

Can no-one here explain in plain English what is so bad about this book, and what in the book they think is false information?

If it's wrong, it's wrong, if it's false, it's false - so please, I would like to know since there are so many people here who object to what is written in the book.

VelvetSplash said:

See my edited post above

rdhull said:

Did you get from the book that the author thought that Prince was "all bad"? Because I didn't.

I know Prince isn't all bad, he's like all of us, he's human, no-one is all bad, no-one is all good.

So is that what is troubling you all, that the book veered towards showing only his negative points?

If that's so, then you're right, it does, especially in the second half - but it didn't really bother me that much, like I said when in the very first post I made about the book after just finishing reading it - it didn't tell me practically anything I didn't already know, and it didn't influence my opinion of Prince either way - I already knew he could be a cunt, and I already knew he could be a wonderful person.

So I say again, big deal!!

You still didn't answer my question though about false information, but maybe someone else can (although they haven't thus far).


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[This message was edited Wed May 14 9:23:38 PDT 2003 by VelvetSplash]

VelvetSplash said:

Aha. Copy..print..save...No more questions your honor. The witness has his rights. I just made colonel Jessup admit to giving the code red. Thanks for proving my point with your very own words.

rdhull-Cruise




Nobody said anything about truth or falsehood. Look above and what just transpired son. Please stop..its making you look more and more ___


you arent't going back to any naval or army base colonel

a few good purple-funk men edit
[This message was edited Wed May 14 9:33:07 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Try having a discussion without resorting to silly name calling and childish insults.

We agree it shows Prince in a negative light, I still don't see what's so bad about that.

Surely you all knew he had a bad side too.

VelvetSplash said:

MP's please take the witness away--he has his rights..plus he is becoming agressive and violent

I'll make a mental note never to try and have a discussion with you again.

I guess we'll both be glad about that

VelvetSplash said:

What you are doing and just said is tantamount to "Im gonna rip off your head and piss own your throat!"


Im an purple-officer and you will address me as such..you "guilty son of a bitch"

MP's please..Colonel Jessup is clarly agitated and a danger . The witness has his rights.


This is fun!


few good men p-org style edit
[This message was edited Wed May 14 9:54:05 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

Whatever you're smokin', pass it to the left.

VelvetSplash said:

you cant have any..because you are already trippin, i.e. forgetful, nuero damge..because look right below here where u said just not more than 15 mnutes ago



see there? you said u wouldnt have a duiscussion with me and look what you are doing. You lied about the code red ( Hahns agenda and that his book is boolshet) and now about having a discussion with me

and dont try for the insanity plea

MP's..please..I besiege you..the witness has his rights




you made Marcuson kill himself edit
[This message was edited Wed May 14 10:03:44 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

RD you's a foo'

NuPwrSoul said: