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Thread started 05/10/03 3:24am

CalhounSq

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solve the mystery: Omnibus UK special & Trio/A&E "Prince of PP" special - are they the same thing?

I've heard they ARE the same, I've heard they're completely different & I've heard they're similar wall Somebody put it to bed - are these two specials the same or not? confused
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Reply #1 posted 05/10/03 3:32am

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they r different

the omnibus special is a bbc documentary from 1990 i think, and about 50 mins long. it does include some footage from the 23 min prince of paisley park documentary which is supposedly what was released from an aborted long form documentary as a kinda prince version of truth or dare/in bed with madonna

the 23 mins prince of paisley park documentary was a download on npgmc last year
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Reply #2 posted 05/10/03 4:18am

Pochacco

I sooo wished I had kept the Omnibus video,Id love to watch it again sigh

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/03 5:36am

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CalhounSq said:

I've heard they ARE the same, I've heard they're completely different & I've heard they're similar wall Somebody put it to bed - are these two specials the same or not? confused


They are all the same--uk one is longer.
Been shown on A&E , Trio, japan & BBC.
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/03 7:18pm

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unique said:

they r different

the omnibus special is a bbc documentary from 1990 i think, and about 50 mins long. it does include some footage from the 23 min prince of paisley park documentary which is supposedly what was released from an aborted long form documentary as a kinda prince version of truth or dare/in bed with madonna

the 23 mins prince of paisley park documentary was a download on npgmc last year


23 mins of P of PP? confuse Now I'm really confused lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/10/03 7:18pm

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origmnd said:

CalhounSq said:

I've heard they ARE the same, I've heard they're completely different & I've heard they're similar wall Somebody put it to bed - are these two specials the same or not? confused


They are all the same--uk one is longer.
Been shown on A&E , Trio, japan & BBC.


How much longer? confused
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Reply #6 posted 05/10/03 7:19pm

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origmnd said:

CalhounSq said:

I've heard they ARE the same, I've heard they're completely different & I've heard they're similar wall Somebody put it to bed - are these two specials the same or not? confused


They are all the same--uk one is longer.
Been shown on A&E , Trio, japan & BBC.





I think your right.
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Reply #7 posted 05/10/03 9:48pm

PhilG

To make it even more confusing rockontv.com describes it as the "Rave2000" DVD! Hey, CalhounSq, I got your back ! wink
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/03 1:31am

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PhilG said:

To make it even more confusing rockontv.com describes it as the "Rave2000" DVD! Hey, CalhounSq, I got your back ! wink


biggrin Trying to get to the bottom of it, no difinitive answers yet... confused
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/03 6:25am

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I have the Omnibus thing (recorded it when it was shown), but want to know--another thing I taped back them was "Prince--A Musical Portrait". This has Prince in the studio playing bass along to "Partyman" (!), and contributions from George Clinton, Eric Clapton, &c. Is this the thing you're referring to as "Prince Of Paisley Park"? It's about the same length. Has the Partyman video at the end.
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/03 7:56am

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As far as I am aware, back in 1989 Albert Magnoli worked on a documentary on Prince. This did not emerge exactly as planned, but a 9 minute documentary called 'Prince, Musical Portrat' was first aired in September 1989. This 9 minute documentary was available last year - January 2002 - for download (as part of edition 12 of NPGMC year 1).

In 1991, the BBC Omnibus team chose to make a documentary on Prince as part of their arts series. It was not (as described above) a 'special' - just part of their series for that year. Prince made available much material which included some or all of the footage which Magnoli was to have used in the original documentary. The programme was first aired in December 1991 entitled 'Prince Rogers Nelson' - about 50-60 minutes in duration

In 1992, a TV special entitled 'The Prince of Paisley Park' was made - again with the aborted Magnoli documentary material available for inclusion. Some of this material was used, (but with some alternative interviews to those shot and included in Prince: a Musical Portrait). First aired in September 1992 - about 50 minutes in duration.
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/03 6:14pm

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unremarkable said:

I have the Omnibus thing (recorded it when it was shown), but want to know--another thing I taped back them was "Prince--A Musical Portrait". This has Prince in the studio playing bass along to "Partyman" (!), and contributions from George Clinton, Eric Clapton, &c. Is this the thing you're referring to as "Prince Of Paisley Park"? It's about the same length. Has the Partyman video at the end.


No - the 9 minute doc is "Prince: A Musical Portrait". "Prince of Paisley Park" is about an hour long & aired on Trio & A&E.
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/03 6:17pm

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langebleu said:

As far as I am aware, back in 1989 Albert Magnoli worked on a documentary on Prince. This did not emerge exactly as planned, but a 9 minute documentary called 'Prince, Musical Portrat' was first aired in September 1989. This 9 minute documentary was available last year - January 2002 - for download (as part of edition 12 of NPGMC year 1).

In 1991, the BBC Omnibus team chose to make a documentary on Prince as part of their arts series. It was not (as described above) a 'special' - just part of their series for that year. Prince made available much material which included some or all of the footage which Magnoli was to have used in the original documentary. The programme was first aired in December 1991 entitled 'Prince Rogers Nelson' - about 50-60 minutes in duration

In 1992, a TV special entitled 'The Prince of Paisley Park' was made - again with the aborted Magnoli documentary material available for inclusion. Some of this material was used, (but with some alternative interviews to those shot and included in Prince: a Musical Portrait). First aired in September 1992 - about 50 minutes in duration.


Thank you Lange smile So I guess Omnibus IS indeed different from P of PP then. Same KIND of program but different shots & interviews... NICE!!! biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 05/12/03 3:56am

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langebleu said:

In 1991, the BBC Omnibus team chose to make a documentary on Prince as part of their arts series. It was not (as described above) a 'special' - just part of their series for that year. Prince made available much material which included some or all of the footage which Magnoli was to have used in the original documentary.


And they got that footage because Prince had been screwing them around for days and they were getting fed up.
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Reply #14 posted 05/12/03 4:06am

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langebleu said:

In 1992, a TV special entitled 'The Prince of Paisley Park' was made - again with the aborted Magnoli documentary material available for inclusion. Some of this material was used, (but with some alternative interviews to those shot and included in Prince: a Musical Portrait). First aired in September 1992 - about 50 minutes in duration.


IIRC The "P of PP" is a re-edit of the BBC program intended for international use. That's also the impression I get from reading descriptions. From what I recall "P of PP" was actually the subtitle of the BBC Omnibus program.

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http://members.aol.com/fr...deos2.html

1991 Prince of Paisley Park (Documentary)

Enter into Prince's world at his studio in Paisley Park. Sheila E. and Mavis Staples are interviewed and shown working with him in the studio. See him and the band rehearse for the Lovesexy and Diamonds and Pearls tour. See rare footage of Prince in concert from the early days at The First Avenue club in the 1980's to stadiums in Germany in the 1990's, (1992 Pro-Shot for TV) EX-

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See also:

http://www.startribune.co...40725.html
http://www.nbdtv.com/fram...ductID=315
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Reply #15 posted 05/12/03 6:17am

origmnd

CalhounSquare---I'll make it easy for u---

If u have Omnibus special--it's all u need. Anything else will be a portion or excerpt of it.

The 9 minute thing is something else
all together.
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Reply #16 posted 05/12/03 6:21am

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origmnd said:

CalhounSquare---I'll make it easy for u---

If u have Omnibus special--it's all u need. Anything else will be a portion or excerpt of it.

The 9 minute thing is something else
all together.


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Reply #17 posted 05/14/03 12:07am

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origmnd said:

CalhounSquare---I'll make it easy for u---

If u have Omnibus special--it's all u need. Anything else will be a portion or excerpt of it.


Wrong. There are several differences between the original Omnibus special and the one sold internationally.
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Reply #18 posted 05/15/03 8:15pm

origmnd

So U say there is DIFFERENT footage on
subsequent versions of Omnibus???
Some segments that WEREN'T on Omnibus?

I think not..
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