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Thread started 05/07/03 9:27am

IstenSzek

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The Sacrifice Of Victor

So what do you think of this song?

I'm never sure wether I like it or
don't.

Perhaps it's because it's on thát
album. But somehow I do like it...

Especially the last minute.

Perhaps someone could provide some
more information about this song,
like when it was recorded etc?
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #1 posted 05/07/03 9:29am

stymie

I used to be crazy about this song. Especially the last few lines. I haven't listened to it in years, tho'.
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Reply #2 posted 05/07/03 9:31am

IstenSzek

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stymie said:

I used to be crazy about this song. Especially the last few lines. I haven't listened to it in years, tho'.



Exactly. I just listened to it for the first time in a long
while too. I particularly like those last few lines and the
bit before them when there's three different lines of vox
running together which then turn into the one vocal of

"...I'm gonna keep on walking down this road".
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #3 posted 05/07/03 9:38am

Anxiety

I always thought this song was a mess. There's a certain point on that album where it lapses into some really unfocused territory...I have to be in the right mood for anything too far beyond "Damn U", I gotta confess...
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Reply #4 posted 05/07/03 9:40am

IstenSzek

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Anxiety said:

I always thought this song was a mess. There's a certain point on that album where it lapses into some really unfocused territory...I have to be in the right mood for anything too far beyond "Damn U", I gotta confess...


Indeed, "3 Chains Of Gold" and "Victor" back 2 back is a
bit much to stomach at any given time.

I don't know, I never really listen to the album at all
since it's probably my least fav Prince album. There are
enough song on there to make it a nice 8 song album but
the rest is just not my taste.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #5 posted 05/07/03 9:43am

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IstenSzek said:

I particularly like those last few lines and the
bit before them when there's three different lines of vox
running together which then turn into the one vocal of

"...I'm gonna keep on walking down this road".


nod I love this part. I'm still crazy about this song, always will be. I love Prince's vocals, I love the energy, I love the backing choir. I also like learning that he was epileptic. Well, that's not as good as the rest of it, I guess.
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Reply #6 posted 05/07/03 10:42am

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Love this song. Didn't care for it too much when the album came out, but it definitely grew on me. Love the lyrics, his vocal, and like those above, the ending of the song is great -- a perfect end to the "rock opera" that the album purported itself to be. One of my favorites from that album.

Do I remember correctly that he performed it on "The Ryde Divine" TV special? with the "phantom" mask? and the sleeves that went to his knees?
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/03 10:59am

ufoclub

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This song builds to an awsome end with the steeles singing harmonies "around the corner..."

great song.

much better than "eye wanna melt with U"
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Reply #8 posted 05/07/03 5:00pm

Phill

The DNA after show version and the Ride Divine version put that song in a whole new light. I never really got into it until I heard it live. I think its the best song played on the ride divine.
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Reply #9 posted 05/07/03 5:10pm

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I dug it but more on the RYDE DYVINE
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Reply #10 posted 05/07/03 6:05pm

muleFunk

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Great song.
Wrong album.

Like so many other Prince songs the song gains something from a live performance.
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Reply #11 posted 05/07/03 7:02pm

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Maybe if it was on a different album from 3 Chains I would like it more... not into this one.
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Reply #12 posted 05/07/03 8:38pm

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Phill said:

The DNA after show version and the Ride Divine version put that song in a whole new light. I never really got into it until I heard it live. I think its the best song played on the ride divine.

u read my mind!

the DNA version is the only version i listen 2.
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Reply #13 posted 05/07/03 11:27pm

IstenSzek

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Can't say I ever got into the live performances. DNA sounds
a bit poor due to the bad soundquality. I have it on some
other aftershow boots, like Estandard so I'll give those
another listen.
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Reply #14 posted 05/08/03 3:04am

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I think TSOV is a great song. Its lyrics are about as clear and autobiographical as Prince gets and, for me, its just in that classic Prince pop-funk vein - the density and complexity of that heavy, deep bassed, rolling rythym reminds me of Lovesexy. It is one of the better constructed songs on the album.

For those who haven't listened to it in a long time, make sure you are going to listen on a system that can dig deep in terms of detail and bass, turn it UP and please turn to the book of Victor!

Incidentally, what made me laugh after this album came out, was the amount of people (press included) who took this song very literally and thought he had changed his name to Victor! Asswipes! Even a blatant metaphor is too subtle for some, it seems!
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Reply #15 posted 05/08/03 10:39am

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Mindflux said:


For those who haven't listened to it in a long time, make sure you are going to listen on a system that can dig deep in terms of detail and bass, turn it UP and please turn to the book of Victor!



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Reply #16 posted 05/08/03 10:52am

endorphin74

I honestly really like this cd, and I think this is one of the stand-out tracks on it. It's such a layered song, with so much to get into. It's a classic in my book.
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/03 12:31pm

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i love this song. it is one of my faves on this disc. i actually do like the symbol album a lot but i used to dislike it just as much. "sacrifice" is probably my 2nd favorite song though, believe it or not.
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Reply #18 posted 05/08/03 4:07pm

otan

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Oh people people people

The GOLD Abbem was the best record of the 90's. NOW, Endorphinemachine, Billyjack Birtch, and this awesome autobiographical song, Sacrifice Of Victor.

The song is flawless. This album to ME signalled that P hadn't lost it, this album had STONE JAMS (Endorphine Machine, NOW), it had dirty stripper songs, (319) and to ME, Billy jack Bitch was the closest he'd come to DMSR in a LONG LONG LONG time.

I'm sure that fans of Rave and Emancipation will completely disagree with me on this opinion, and that's cool, becuase THEY'RE WRONG!
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Reply #19 posted 05/08/03 4:10pm

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otan said:

Oh people people people

The GOLD Abbem was the best record of the 90's. NOW, Endorphinemachine, Billyjack Birtch, and this awesome autobiographical song, Sacrifice Of Victor.

The song is flawless. This album to ME signalled that P hadn't lost it, this album had STONE JAMS (Endorphine Machine, NOW), it had dirty stripper songs, (319) and to ME, Billy jack Bitch was the closest he'd come to DMSR in a LONG LONG LONG time.

I'm sure that fans of Rave and Emancipation will completely disagree with me on this opinion, and that's cool, becuase THEY'RE WRONG!



Ehm...
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Reply #20 posted 05/08/03 7:23pm

enjoyniki

Great gospel feel to the song, reminds me of being in church.
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Reply #21 posted 05/08/03 10:27pm

derek

The DNA aftershow is a great version of this song - especially as you can actually hear the funky bassline that this song has (it's a bit mixed down on the album version).

The only problem with the DNA boot is the horns are mixed almost out of the mix so you can't really hear them - which is a shame as the horn section was going off this night!!!

Mmmm...love the DNA boot "C-O-M-E...now what's that spell?"
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