That MJ, James Brown and Prince tape again! The infamous Prince,Michael Jackson and James Brown video where Prince
seemingly makes a fool out of himself and is clearly not in control makes me think that it's the reason that Prince has been forever sayin "On the one!" and "Gimme 2! Gimme 3!" which meshed into him sayin "on the one!" and having the
band stop, which he then turned it into saying "Las Vegas!" or whatever jargon he had on his mind. Seein that pivotal performance with JB and MJ makes me wonder if that really affected Prince and left a permanent scar on him. Of
course he went on to be able to outdo MJ when doin James Brown imitations etc., but it seems to have continued and stayed with him in the 80's. Before the "performance" he was synth fried punk funk and roll..then after that he introduced the JB revue style. He stopped after SOTT though.



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[This message was edited Sun Apr 27 18:38:47 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

I liked it. I wouldn't have been surpised if P didn't fine his band members for their mistakes either. It's all about perfection when it comes to Prince.

You're right RD, he keeps his band SUPER TIGHT I wonder what bugged him out more - did he trip off the performance itself or did he realize he shouldn't get high before hitting the stage?


drugs

Well I'll be damned..my flame is running out

NWF said:

I think he did do that didn't he? being late etc?

CalhounSq said:

Both probably..I know he was thinking "I'll show them! In a month Im making my movie and in a year fom now you'll be eating out of the palm of my hands..and watch my James Brown live stuff then!""

i'm about 2 get a hold of that footage, so i'll be here on the org with my outlook on all this soon...

I still say he was high that night. Plus for once he wasn't in total control. He was clearly out of his element
[This message was edited Sun Apr 27 20:02:16 PDT 2003 by lovebizzare]

Did we watch the same Video? Because what I saw was James Brown and MJ in Awe of Prince, the look on their faces was like a little kid watching michael Jordan play, a grin on their faces just digging his groove.

PRINCE "MESSED UP" ON PURPOSE.HE WAS IN HIS "PUNK" MODE BACK THEN AND WHAT DO PUNK BANDS DO?THEY TEAR UP THE STAGE.PLUS,HE DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW UP TWO OF HIS BLACK MUSIC IDOLS.AND,YES,PRINCE WAS A FAN OF MICHAEL'S WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER.SO HE ACCOMPLISHED HITTING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.IT WAS PERFECT. AND AFTER THAT PERIOD PRINCE WENT ON TO GREAT SUCCESS.IT WAS KHARMA;HE CHOSE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THINK OF THE TWO OTHER MEN FIRST WHICH PAVED THE WAY FOR HIS VERY RAPID CLIMB TO THE TOP.

PRINCE DID MAKE IT TO THE TOP.AFTER HE MADE IT TO THE TOP HE LOST CONTROL DUE TO HIS DEEP SHYNESS.(YES,HE IS SHY AND OUTGOING AT THE SAME TIME.)THAT PERSONALITY TRAIT MADE HIM ACT IN WAYS THAT WAS LESS KHARMICALLY POSITIVE.SO THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SEEN A SALES DECLINE AND POPULARITY DECLINE.

PRINCE CAN CHANGE THINGS AROUND.IF HE APPEARS ON THE JERRY LEWIS TELETHON ,DOES 15 HOURS OF COMMUNITYS ERVICE,REPEATS "CANDYMAN" 4 TIMES IN A TWO-WAY MIRROR,EATS A PLATE OF "STUFFED" CHITTERLINGS,HELPS AN OLD LADY WHO LIVES IN A SHOE ACROSS THE STREET,AND ACTUALLY REVEALS TO US WHAT THE "BATDANCE" REALLY IS...HE WILL OUTSELL EMINEM.
OTHERWISE,IT'S CURTAINS,I TELLZ YA'.

RockWilder,that's an interesting analysis

rockwilder said:

rockwilder said:

What a great new analysis, rockwilder. Interesting indeed

Although he seemed drunk/high, the only time he really looked bad IMO was when he pulled the lamp post down and he wasn't to know that wasn't securely bolted.

rdhull said:

Get real!...prince win's hand's down to mj & jb...lmao your a damn trip...prince on his wrose night can put them to shame on there best. MJ & JB

rdhull said:

RD - the "on the ONE" is a call to the musicians to stop on the one. I do it in my band, lots of blues musicians do it when the band is doing a freeform jam that hasn't been rehearsed.

I'm not saying he didn't get it from James, I'm just saying, there's more to it than just Prince pullin on James' coat-tails. Prince is an awesome bandleader in a live scenario - that's probably what I admire most about him - watching him rearrange a song to the nth degree, on the spot, (well, I'm SURE some rehearsals took place somewheres).

Same with the "gimme two, UNH!" when the band is doing a non-stop vamp, it gets boring. Calling stops and hits shows off the band's tightness and wakes up the sleepers in the crowd.

Try it sometime.

But yeah, he was high a a mother on that tape. HIGH. I don't care WHAT you think, HE WAS HIGH.

HIGH.

And I'm not talking about biblically, spiritually or aerophysically. I'm talking stoned to the bone.

otan said:

I never said he was or wasn't high. And he never did those gimme one gimme two on the one stuff until that MJ-JB night.Yes Im aware that lots of bands do the count etc. But some never did it until they knocked a lamp post over etc. Thats all Im sayin'.


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[This message was edited Mon Apr 28 16:06:06 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

This theory is almost as funny as the Maxxx/Natasha one, Rd.

They may be funny but they're true




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[This message was edited Mon Apr 28 16:06:28 PDT 2003 by rdhull]

first, jfk assassination buffs...now, mj/prince/james brown performance buffs...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I don't understand why its so hard to believe. Princ eis known for situations having a profound effect on his music and performance etc. I mean come on. He messed up on JB and worked on it as to never be shown up again in that area imo.

I always wondered if he was saying Las Vegas... I thought so... Is all I know is I love when he controlled his bands with on the one, on the two on the 10 or even 25yeah...and started back wita Good Gawd...influences of Mr.Brown..IMO... Rockwilder has a very interesting philosiphy also!!

pejman said:

I love the "good gawd" and the "on the one" bam

rdhull said:

On that Atlanta PR video he does it so many times I wondered if the folks in the audience were gettin tired of it but the way he was selling out that tour I doubt it. Plus they seemed to be feelin his groove good and plenty that night!

pejman said:[quote]

rdhull said:

lol..I know someone at work back then said about the IWD4U and Babby Star part that "damn..thats a long song"





how did everyone get this Atl. vid?

rdhull said:[quote]

pejman said:

have you seen it?

pejman said:

no

rdhull said:

!!!

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Wait...are we talkin of the one that was shown on MTV..is that the Atl one? Because I have seen that lots..but they only showed those two songs right? IWD4U and baby IM A Star.I hear that a whole show other than Syracuse is out there etc