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Thread started 05/05/03 8:22am

xt1000

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This whole JW no swearing thing

Not that i make a habit of swearing but, imaging the following without it ;

1. Come
2. Sexy MF
3. Lets Pretend We're Married

I could continue but gotta leave soon 4 work...

Dont start with the 'So the track sounds good cause it contains swear words...' that's not what i mean, but it would'nt be as good cause the flavour of what the track was about would be lost...What u guys think...??
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/03 8:23am

CAMILLE4U

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xt1000 said:

Not that i make a habit of swearing but, imaging the following without it ;

1. Come
2. Sexy MF
3. Lets Pretend We're Married

I could continue but gotta leave soon 4 work...

Dont start with the 'So the track sounds good cause it contains swear words...' that's not what i mean, but it would'nt be as good cause the flavour of what the track was about would be lost...What u guys think...??


I recently bought the edited version of prince and Sexy motha 'AWWAA' is funkier than Sexy MF
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Reply #2 posted 05/05/03 8:51am

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CAMILLE4U said:

xt1000 said:

Not that i make a habit of swearing but, imaging the following without it ;

1. Come
2. Sexy MF
3. Lets Pretend We're Married

I could continue but gotta leave soon 4 work...

Dont start with the 'So the track sounds good cause it contains swear words...' that's not what i mean, but it would'nt be as good cause the flavour of what the track was about would be lost...What u guys think...??


I recently bought the edited version of prince and Sexy motha 'AWWAA' is funkier than Sexy MF


You must be kidding, it just sounds awful
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/03 10:19am

way2funky

I don't think Prince (or any artist for that matter) should ever change the lyrics of a song for any reason. If they truly see their music as art, then they wrote those lyrics for a reason and should never change them. The song was written as Sexy Mutha Fucker and should stay that way. Don't go changing lyrics simply because your values have changed over time. I can see not saying them in any new music but leave the older music alone.

Reminds me of The Doors when Ed Sullivan wanted Jim Morrison to say 'Girl, we couldn't get much better' instead of higher. Jim didn't sell out!

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Reply #4 posted 05/05/03 10:28am

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way2funky said:

I don't think Prince (or any artist for that matter) should ever change the lyrics of a song for any reason. If they truly see their music as art, then they wrote those lyrics for a reason and should never change them.
no no no!


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Reply #5 posted 05/05/03 10:34am

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Sandra said:

way2funky said:

I don't think Prince (or any artist for that matter) should ever change the lyrics of a song for any reason. If they truly see their music as art, then they wrote those lyrics for a reason and should never change them.
no no no!


worship

triple that worshipworshipworship

it's basically like michaelangelo goin back 2 the sistine chapel and paintin black boxes over the nude folks.
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/03 10:41am

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way2funky said:

I don't think Prince (or any artist for that matter) should ever change the lyrics of a song for any reason. If they truly see their music as art, then they wrote those lyrics for a reason and should never change them. The song was written as Sexy Mutha Fucker and should stay that way. Don't go changing lyrics simply because your values have changed over time. I can see not saying them in any new music but leave the older music alone.

Reminds me of The Doors when Ed Sullivan wanted Jim Morrison to say 'Girl, we couldn't get much better' instead of higher. Jim didn't sell out!

no no no!


co-sign...
i got lambasted for a thread in which i said it really bothered me that he changed "the cross" into "the christ". they said i only felt that wa because the lyrics were now JW based, which is not why i disliked it. i disliked it because i don't think the artist should tamper with his work after the release of it.

i love the cross, but don't agree with the regular christian beliefs in it either, i just think it is a phenominal song.
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Reply #7 posted 05/05/03 11:18am

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co-sign for me too. i'm amazed/appalled by the fact that the same person who wrote 'sexy motherfucka', the same artist who expressed a preferenceed for 'freedom' has done such a complete about-face.

it's like watching a slo-mo train wreck imo
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Reply #8 posted 05/05/03 11:20am

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I can't see what the fuss is all about.

If Prince wants to re-record his work, or perform it with different words, different instruments, different musicians, a different arrangement, use different recording equipment, or apply different production values ... then that's his call.

Certainly, people will think in the case of lyric changes, that he is bowdlerising his art, but that's his right. This idea that an artist shouldn't 'tamper with his art' is laughable.

The original works still exist, I can listen to my copy of Sexy MF, or indeed Sexy Mutha, if I choose to do so, and Prince can't stop me.

Similarly, I can't insist Prince performs particular songs in particular ways just because that's the way he originally wrote or recorded them (or that's the way I think they should be performed).
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/03 11:26am

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way2funky said:


Reminds me of The Doors when Ed Sullivan wanted Jim Morrison to say 'Girl, we couldn't get much better' instead of higher. Jim didn't sell out!

no no no!


You're right. Jim didn't sell out. But he still managed to make an ass of himself by singing the actual lyrics in such a coy, limp-wristed fashion... or maybe he was just too stoned and out of his head to function properly...

He certainly didn't scream them out the way Val Kilmer's character did in Oliver Stone's biopic. Now, THAT would have been cool!

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Reply #10 posted 05/05/03 4:10pm

way2funky

langebleu said:

I can't see what the fuss is all about.

If Prince wants to re-record his work, or perform it with different words, different instruments, different musicians, a different arrangement, use different recording equipment, or apply different production values ... then that's his call.

Certainly, people will think in the case of lyric changes, that he is bowdlerising his art, but that's his right. This idea that an artist shouldn't 'tamper with his art' is laughable.

The original works still exist, I can listen to my copy of Sexy MF, or indeed Sexy Mutha, if I choose to do so, and Prince can't stop me.

Similarly, I can't insist Prince performs particular songs in particular ways just because that's the way he originally wrote or recorded them (or that's the way I think they should be performed).



I agree with you somewhat. Sure any artist can re-record their music any way they want. Does that make it right? Not in my opinion. The song is then a re-mix and should be re-titled also as it is no longer the original.

An artist usually doesn't release a song until they feel it has reached 'perfection' so tampering with it is laughable to me. They shouldn't have released it if it wasn't up to their standards.

As far as Prince, I don't agree with his changing lyrics simply because of the person he is now or not performing certain songs because of their 'sexual content'.

All in all, I think they should be done the way they were intended to be done. Cuss words and all.

Just my :2C:
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/03 4:14pm

way2funky

giotto said:

way2funky said:


Reminds me of The Doors when Ed Sullivan wanted Jim Morrison to say 'Girl, we couldn't get much better' instead of higher. Jim didn't sell out!

no no no!


You're right. Jim didn't sell out. But he still managed to make an ass of himself by singing the actual lyrics in such a coy, limp-wristed fashion... or maybe he was just too stoned and out of his head to function properly...

He certainly didn't scream them out the way Val Kilmer's character did in Oliver Stone's biopic. Now, THAT would have been cool!

.

I've never seen the actual recording of that Door's performance so I always hoped it was like the movie had shown. Too bad it wasn't. That would have been cool.

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Reply #12 posted 05/05/03 6:36pm

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I have the Celebration cd's from 2002, and when he plays The Truth during the acoustic set, he sings.."The choice u make, it aint no piece of cake, but it sho' gonna be your piece of pie..."
The he says..."For all of you who miss the old lyrics, that says more about you, than it does about me."
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