databank said:

scififilmnerd said:

I had the same reaction as back when Crystal Ball came out with a reworked version of Sexual Suicide that was vastly different from the bootleg we knew. It took some getting used to and now I love it.

With Stone, I was so used to the version we already had, I found the addition of synth orchestra unsettling at first, but now I'm getting familiar with it and guess it's not so horrific.

The new version is supposedly an outtake from the early 1996 configuration of Emancipation and I think the sound fits as Prince was into synth orchestrations at the time.

With both With This Tear and Stone being originals by Prince, my fear that Timeless would be Frankenstein mixes like Originals have been calmed, and I'm actually looking forward to the release even though I'm as disappointed as everyone else in that it's only a few tracks that seem like a drop in the ocean of what's in the Vault.

[Edited 6/4/26 22:01pm]

Vastly? . [Edited 6/4/26 22:40pm]

The Sexual Suicide outtake had a haunting sax solo by Eric Leeds that wasn't on the funked up Crystal Ball version.

But now that I've been listening to Stone and gotten used to the orchestra, it's not really THAT different from the outtake, no.

Steelclawz said:

so were basically getting 4 new songs

eveything else we already had

am i getting that right ?

Some people are complaining that they alreadsy heard half of the album which is weird because it isn't there fault or problem if you downloaded or bought bootlegs so kind of wweird to complain about that.

Yeah, Prince fans are tiresome, aren't they?

In random order, Prince fans are complaining that:

- there aren't enough releases (almost nothing was released between 2024 and 2026)

- there are too many releases (before 2024, anyway)
- the Vault doesn't contain anything of interest, so should be left alone (e.g. "Stone" or the D&P SDE outtakes suck)
- but not the live recordings, though, those should be released
- no, no, no, we want the studio stuff, not the live stuff
- "Stone" sounds awful (although it's apparently the "final mix" approved by Prince)
- "Heaven" is too short (although it's apparently a version approved by Prince as well)
- songs above 4-5 minutes are too long anyway
- "Timeless" sucks (although it's apparently only released to appease the fans complaining that nothing was released)
- etc.

Note: those are not my complaints. I'm just saying Prince fans have always complained and will always complain.

scififilmnerd said:

databank said:

scififilmnerd said: Vastly? . [Edited 6/4/26 22:40pm]

The Sexual Suicide outtake had a haunting sax solo by Eric Leeds that wasn't on the funked up Crystal Ball version.

Incredibobble! Thanks for explaining. I hardly ever listend to the bootleg again since 1998, so I had forgotten this entirely. I'll listen to it again today

JorisE73 said:

Steelclawz said:

so were basically getting 4 new songs

eveything else we already had

am i getting that right ?

Some people are complaining that they alreadsy heard half of the album which is weird because it isn't there fault or problem if you downloaded or bought bootlegs so kind of wweird to complain about that.

That, too.

Taking bootlegs into account is good, but not releasing things because they were bootlegged first would be absurd.

olb99 said:

Yeah, Prince fans are tiresome, aren't they?

In random order, Prince fans are complaining that:

- there aren't enough releases (almost nothing was released between 2024 and 2026)

- there are too many releases (before 2024, anyway)
- the Vault doesn't contain anything of interest, so should be left alone (e.g. "Stone" or the D&P SDE outtakes suck)
- but not the live recordings, though, those should be released
- no, no, no, we want the studio stuff, not the live stuff
- "Stone" sounds awful (although it's apparently the "final mix" approved by Prince)
- "Heaven" is too short (although it's apparently a version approved by Prince as well)
- songs above 4-5 minutes are too long anyway
- "Timeless" sucks (although it's apparently only released to appease the fans complaining that nothing was released)
- etc.

Note: those are not my complaints. I'm just saying Prince fans have always complained and will always complain.

scififilmnerd said:

databank said:

scififilmnerd said: Vastly? . [Edited 6/4/26 22:40pm]

The Sexual Suicide outtake had a haunting sax solo by Eric Leeds that wasn't on the funked up Crystal Ball version.

Listening to it now and really confused. Could someone point me to when in the track is that haunting sax solo? I can't hear any solo that doesn't seem to be on the CB version.

Additional question: the CB version was the final version envioned for DF, wasn't it?

Sorry for my ignorance. I must admit I was never really good at spotting slight differences between versions.