ShellyMcG said:

MIRvmn1 said:

New Music Announcement this week according to the Paisley Park account on X.

Interesting indeed. Looks like this rumoured new album could be real. Unless they pull the old switcheroo and put out a bunch of unofficial dance remixes or something just for spite

ShellyMcG said:

Unless they pull the old switcheroo and put out a bunch of unofficial dance remixes or something just for spite

"switcheroo" is like "yer's guys's" in that they are terms we needed, but made up by hicks!

MIRvmn1 said:

ShellyMcG said:

Interesting indeed. Looks like this rumoured new album could be real. Unless they pull the old switcheroo and put out a bunch of unofficial dance remixes or something just for spite

10 dance remixes of Purple And Gold

NICKthebrick said:

post the damn pic!

themanfromneptune said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

No, but I want those in cd quality.

I absolutely hate MP3s and those versions on those projects were probably

the shortest versions of those songs.

I dont trust 2 get anything from the Estate at this point that I actually want.

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All the songs had been re-released in FLAC version.

a FLAC of an MP3 original source or the actual mastered source?

NICKthebrick said:

NICKthebrick said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

themanfromneptune said:

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All the songs had been re-released in FLAC version.

a FLAC of an MP3 original source or the actual mastered source?

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Chocolate invasion & TSH were released in some windows media shit, and after in real flac by Tidal, afaik. MP3 was used before for some of the songs (most of) via NPGMC, not as album. The tracklist also changes and some songs were extended, beeped, and cutted here and there in the final version.

themanfromneptune said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

a FLAC of an MP3 original source or the actual mastered source?

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Chocolate invasion & TSH were released in some windows media shit, and after in real flac by Tidal, afaik. MP3 was used before for some of the songs (most of) via NPGMC, not as album. The tracklist also changes and some songs were extended, beeped, and cutted here and there in the final version.

I NEED TO FIND THOSE. thanks.

Angela Davis: Baltimore, Maryland is listening this morning. Max is with us. Hey, Max, what did you want to share with us?

Max on the phone: Hey, I'm a big fan of Prince music. My.. song is by far Sexuality. It was sort of this combination of.. <the line is breaking up>

Angela Davis: Oh, Max, I can't hear you. What is it? What is it again? The song or the album? What is it? Can you?

Max on the phone: I'm sorry. Can you hear me now?

Angela Davis: I can hear you now. So what's your favorite album or song? I couldn't hear you before.

Max on the phone: My favorite song by far is "Sexuality" off of "Controversy",but my favorite album is "Parade" "Under The Cherry Moon", and I'm just curious if Londell, can share, if that is indeed the next deluxe set, and if it will include unreleased Claire Fisher arrangements.

L. Londell McMillan: Ah, you've got a real music fam on on the line, yes.

Angela Davis: And "Under The Cherry Moon", isn't there a screening of that movie (L. Londell McMillan: Yes) during the celebration?

L. Londell McMillan: Yes.

Angela Davis: When and where is that?

L. Londell McMillan: That screening will be on Thursday at the Royalston during our Thursday programming.

Angela Davis: Okay.

L. Londell McMillan: And to the gentleman's question, that is... It is in production and development, and we've got both Bobby Z and Lisa Coleman, among others, who are working with us to curate that Parade project. As you know, they've been working very closely. They worked very closely on that project. It's not the next box set, but we're going to be sending and making and producing and releasing a number of box sets as well as other albums including one later this summer, of music and they all won't be box sets, but you're gonna get a nice <Angela Davis interrupts with a question>

Angela Davis: And help me i'm not.. <L. Londell McMillan interrupts and finishes his sentence>

L. Londell McMillan: release of music.

Angela Davis: Tell me what box set means.

L. Londell McMillan: What he's referring to as a box set was.. which is a box, of cds, both both formally released, remastered, remixed, as well as new songs, <um> And he's asking, is it going to have Claire Fisher, <um um> tracks on it, <um> with the violins, and add it to the music, and so, these are the things that we add to the songs, and the compositions to make them better.

Angela Davis: How do you describe the status of Prince music that has not been released?

L. Londell McMillan: Right. That's a big question. They're in the vault. And some of them are,<um> songs that are either fully complete, partially complete, haven't been really developed enough. And so we're getting an inventory of all of these songs. Because it's very important that we put out music in a way that Prince would have appreciated, rather than just open them up. I'm often <clears his throat>, often the target of many of the fans' desire to want all of the music, and all of it now. And while I don't make all of the decisions for everything in The Prince Vault, I'm certainly agreeable that they should have more music as we can, but we've released over 190 unreleased tracks. And many of these tracks are in the box sets. So people are asking for, so much more unreleased music, but many of them, haven't even bought the box sets to actually access and listen to the unreleased music that has already been released. So, the part of me now starting to speak, is to communicate and educate people, hey, you want unreleased music? There's already over 192 unreleased tracks that's out there. But they want more, and we'll continue to kind of give them more, because many of these folks that are the major fans, they've said things to me such as "We want to hear everything before we die". But we also have an obligation to make sure that it's produced sonically in the right way. So generations of now, are able to hear the music, and hear the production, not as it was done 40 years ago, 30 years ago, but hear the production sonically for the moment so they don't just initially turn off. Because we have to keep younger generations engaged.

Angela Davis:: Right. I understand.

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It is not perfect, but I did my best to clean up the Evernote AI-transcript.

This corresponds to 41:05 in the video:

https://www.mprnews.org/e...his-impact

This is going to be amazing.

Angela Davis: Tell me what box set means.

It's a good thing she didn't ask what "music" or "record" means

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L. Londell McMillan: What he's referring to as a box set was.. which is a box, of cds, both both formally released, remastered, remixed, as well as new songs, <um> And he's asking, is it going to have Clare Fischer, <um um> tracks on it, <um> with the violins, and add it to the music, and so, these are the things that we add to the songs, and the compositions to make them better.

I'm not sure what this means because it's phrased in such a confusing manner, but it sounds rather scary. I mean if that means releasing the fully orchestrated versions of some songs before Prince edited the orchestra for release, that's something we're all interested in I guess, but does that mean this? And... "make them better"? What?! This sounds a LOT like the frankensteining on Originals and I thought ahat at least, we were past that. Are we now back to square one?
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L. Londell McMillan: Right. That's a big question. They're in the vault. And some of them are,<um> songs that are either fully complete, partially complete, haven't been really developed enough. And so we're getting an inventory of all of these songs. Because it's very important that we put out music in a way that Prince would have appreciated, rather than just open them up.

That premise is very wrong because Prince would probably have been the first one to say "no one knows anything about my music and what I'd appreciate". I also don't think Prince would have been too hot with anyone taking it upon themselves to "make his compositions better". Using "what Prince would have wanted" is an argument Estate curators should really forbid themselves from using, because we just can't know.

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What we have is what Prince left behind, the way he left it behind, and I wish they would finally admit that archival material by a dead artist is NOT the same as new material by a living artist. It cannot be sold in a similar manner. It should not be expected to fulfill the same goals. It should not be aimed at being perceived the same way by the public. And it's OK to release demos, it's been done for decades.

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I'm often <clears his throat>, often the target of many of the fans' desire to want all of the music, and all of it now.

Could you please, Mr. McMillan, quit repeating this ad nauseum, making us look like retards in the process? No, we're not asking for "EVERYTHING NOW" because we're not dumb enough to believe it to be possible even if the Estate wanted it themselves.

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And while I don't make all of the decisions for everything in The Prince Vault, I'm certainly agreeable that they should have more music as we can, but we've released over 190 unreleased tracks. And many of these tracks are in the box sets. So people are asking for, so much more unreleased music, but many of them, haven't even bought the box sets to actually access and listen to the unreleased music that has already been released.

OK, so, er... now those very people who want EVERYTHING NOW haven't even bothered to listen to what was released so far? I stand corrected: we really must be incredibly stupid, right? This is literally the definition of "adding insult to injury". Thanks a lot

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So, the part of me now starting to speak, is to communicate and educate people, hey, you want unreleased music? There's already over 192 unreleased tracks that's out there. But they want more, and we'll continue to kind of give them more, because many of these folks that are the major fans, they've said things to me such as "We want to hear everything before we die".

I don't think any of us ever even hoped (or, TBH, care) to hear everything before we die. Just a little more on a regular basis would be nice. And more importantly, without the systematic technical errors and dubious choices that have plagued nearly EVERY vault release so far! So far, the material has more often been made worse than "better"... What a way to honor Prince's "wishes"...

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But we also have an obligation to make sure that it's produced sonically in the right way. So generations of now, are able to hear the music, and hear the production, not as it was done 40 years ago, 30 years ago, but hear the production sonically for the moment so they don't just initially turn off. Because we have to keep younger generations engaged.

This remains the most idiotic thing I've ever heard from any Estate representative. So basically everything Prince released in his lifetime sounds outdated and none of it can possibly appeal to younger listeners because, you know, old records sound bad? So those 80s songs on Stranger Things (by Prince or any other artist), they didn't appeal to anyone under 40? So kids only listen to material that's been recorded and mixed in the last few years because anything older sounds outdated? Is this statement for real?

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Following this logic, why not remix Prince's whole catalogue and replace the originals on streaming services by those new mixes? You know, while we're at it (I think that actually may be what was meant by "formally released, remastered, remixed" above )... There's already a thing called "remastering" (that can deliver great results, though also often is just an excuse for loundness wars). Now the industry should make new mixes on top of it?!

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To be fair, having Lisa, Bobby and people who were there involved in various projects is potential good news (though having Morris Hayes—who's someone I respect immensely, to be clear—didn't stop W2A from having a few issues). Having engineers who worked with Prince do mixes is also much better than engineers who didn't. I'd like to know why Duane, one of the most respected Prince experts alive, was fired, though.

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Clearly, no effort is being made neither to offer the fans an olive branch nor show some respect to those very people who supported Prince for decades. Clearly, no effort is being made to give us the proper information we're being blamed for not having by the very people who can give it to us. Nothing good is coming out of this and I don't see this changing anytime soon. As long as the Estate is being ran by people claiming they speak for Prince, displaying a nearly indecent sense of entitlement while accusing the fans of the very same thing, purposedly being cryptic about everything then blaming the fans for "not understanding", and openly showing contempt for the fans, there's no hope in sight... We'll bitch about them, they'll bitch about us, they won't listen to us, we won't listen to them, they'll just do what they want, we'll just keep being unhappy about it... Perhaps it's time for us to move on?

[Edited 6/2/26 1:49am]

Gooddoctor23 said:

So people are asking for, so much more unreleased music, but many of them, haven't even bought the box sets to actually access and listen to the unreleased music that has already been released. So, the part of me now starting to speak, is to communicate and educate people, hey, you want unreleased music? There's already over 192 unreleased tracks that's out there

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People asking for new music is the people that had all the SDE with unreleased music inside. I have all the 192 unreleased tracks Estate released. I did not but things I already own, like the Syracuse live or the ATWIAD box set, because there was no unreleased music inside. Well, I hope "Decades" is something real and it is something consistent.

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So disrespectful of this clagnut to blab about fans not buying the boxsets. Casual listeners may not have bought them, but they are NEVER going to buy such prestige releases by ANY artist, that's not the point of such collections. It's about legacy; preserving and expanding the historic, cultural and artistic context of these performers and their most important works. It's their job to bring new fans in through more accessible gateways. Stranger Things did more in that respect than anything this incarnation of the estate has done and by all accounts that was due to the show's producers not the estate who at the time were busy shoveling limited resources into Titanic turkey moneypit musicals.

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He speaks about fans as if we're petulant, greedy children who want ice-cream before we've eaten our vegetables. Remember we're paying customers, we're free to express our opinions about these product and the companies that produce them.

NouveauDance said:

He speaks about fans as if we're petulant, greedy children who want ice-cream before we've eaten our vegetables. Remember we're paying customers, we're free to express our opinions about these product and the companies that produce them.

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I think Estate could spend some money to pay a community manager or a PR. This man is a disaster in anything he comunicates.

ShellyMcG said:

MIRvmn1 said:

New Music Announcement this week according to the Paisley Park account on X.

Interesting indeed. Looks like this rumoured new album could be real. Unless they pull the old switcheroo and put out a bunch of unofficial dance remixes or something just for spite

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Note that "new music" is vague and could just be a single track. Didn't they use that description also last year and then it ended up being that acoustic version of Free?

ElGorillos said:

This corresponds to 41:05 in the video:

https://www.mprnews.org/e...his-impact

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"Decades of music industry experiences", yet this man sounds incompetent. Go compare this to interviews with Michael Howe.

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Also, yet again insulting hardcore fans.

bizzie said:

NouveauDance said:

So disrespectful of this clagnut to blab about fans not buying the boxsets.

Agree with everything here. And I don't totally understand their repeated line about the box sets not selling... It appears to me they're selling pretty quickly, if not immediately. A quick look shows the 1999 vinyl box is now going for $2,700 on Amazon, and I don't think the SOTT box will be around much longer. D&P is already at $275 new, indicating some degree of increasing rarity. The latest Syracuse box is still more or less widely available, but it's no suprise that it wasn't a quick seller; still, I suspect most of them will move from the shelves. Am I missing something?

(Given the sheer torrent of new vinyl releases these days, I'm also starting to suspect that the "vinyl bottleneck" excuse is somewhat of a canard, but I guess that's another story.)

databank said:

Clearly, no effort is being made neither to offer the fans an olive branch nor show some respect to those very people who supported Prince for decades. Clearly, no effort is being made to give us the proper information we're being blamed for not having by the very people who can give it to us. Nothing good is coming out of this and I don't see this changing anytime soon. As long as the Estate is being ran by people claiming they speak for Prince, displaying a nearly indecent sense of entitlement while accusing the fans of the very same thing, purposedly being cryptic about everything then blaming the fans for "not understanding", and openly showing contempt for the fans, there's no hope in sight... We'll bitch about them, they'll bitch about us, they won't listen to us, we won't listen to them, they'll just do what they want, we'll just keep being unhappy about it... Perhaps it's time for us to move on?

[Edited 6/2/26 1:49am]

Your comments are spot on, and I agree with them all.

bizzie said:

ElGorillos said:

This corresponds to 41:05 in the video:

https://www.mprnews.org/e...his-impact

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"Decades of music industry experiences", yet this man sounds incompetent. Go compare this to interviews with Michael Howe.

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Also, yet again insulting hardcore fans.

Who needs Neversin, when we have L. Londell McMillan?

<irony alert>


Angela Davis: Let's play some more music. The song 1999, Londel. I looked this up. Prince recorded this at his home in Chanhassen, but in 1982. So what do you know about the story of like, why in 1982 was he thinking about 1999? And just the longevity, still the popularity of the song. That's like the forever, like New Year's Eve, any big party, any celebration, when people are all hyped up, like you hear the song 1999.

L. Londell McMillan: Well, you know, Prince was always ahead of the curve. He was always way ahead of us. But if you take 92 and 99, that's seven years. That's the difference. Prince's favorite number was number seven. So he was always projecting. There was always something spiritual, mathematical, cultural, always something designed to bring us together, as the gentleman said. And I want to salute your listeners because they really bring a lot of – love and context <Angela Davis interrupts with: and callers> to this conversation.

Angela Davis: They always do!

L. Londell McMillan: And your callers. Yeah.

Angela Davis: All right. Well, let's take a moment. Let's listen to a little bit of 1999 by Prince.

ElGorillos said:

love2thenines2003 said:

ElGorillos said:

Your comments are spot on, and I agree with them all.

I can't say more...I agree 💯 with this statement based on facts and shitty attitude proposed by The new Estate since summer 2022!

Yep.

Nothing will change as long as MakeMILLIONS is in the room.

ShellyMcG said:

Gooddoctor23 said:

I prefer the Chocolate Invasion & Slaughter House on CD.

So you'd rather get music you already have than music you've probably never even heard?

Yes, this makes absolutely no sense - I can burn them a CD of those albums. There's good artwork out there for them as well.