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Just over a week to go, and then we’ll suppose to know —OR NOT— whether the current not-so-funny-duo have anything to announce for the rest of 2026, WE ALL HAVE OUR WALLETS READY, so what is their 'lazy' problem?
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A quality release would sure be nice after a 3 year drought. I’ll try to remain cautiously optimistic. Hopefully, they will eventually start releasing more comprehensive “time capsule” style releases, as Prince suggested while he was alive. | |
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Meh. Apparently the day has arrived when I'm more excited about the release of a new Kurt Vile album than I am about the announcement of a possible announcement of the potential release of previously unheard Prince tracks. | |
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what was the instrumental Revolution era track they were playing in the Studio A tour a few years back.
I want to say a title to do with food.
Can't remember.
It was funky. wasn't traffic jam
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. Did I say a specific date? . Half of the replies to this are making shit up. Why? Work with the available data instead of imagining things. | |
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I'm surprised no one mentioned the rumor that's doing the round elsewhere: Prince's original mixes are supposedly deemed not good enough for 2026's standards, so the material will systematically be subject to a new contemporary mix from now on. . If it's true, and I hope it isn't, this is really, really bad. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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If this is actually good I will be the very first in line to find some way to give them money for it and post online about how great it is. | |
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Has anyone been able to source this information beyond the one Reddit post that announced this "rumor" yesterday? | |
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dustoff said: Has anyone been able to source this information beyond the one Reddit post that announced this "rumor" yesterday? Nope | |
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databank said: I'm surprised no one mentioned the rumor that's doing the round elsewhere: Prince's original mixes are supposedly deemed not good enough for 2026's standards, so the material will systematically be subject to a new contemporary mix from now on. . If it's true, and I hope it isn't, this is really, really bad. In fairness, the rumour says that they will be staying as close to the original mix as possible and that the only reason they doing what they're doing is because his original mixes sound crap due to the outdated technology he used on the original recordings. So it's not like they're going to butcher his work like they did with the MJ Xcape album. What we hear will still sound essentially the same as the original recordings. | |
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dustoff said: Has anyone been able to source this information beyond the one Reddit post that announced this "rumor" yesterday? No. And that means it's most likely bullshit. But let's hope for the best. | |
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ShellyMcG said: databank said: I'm surprised no one mentioned the rumor that's doing the round elsewhere: Prince's original mixes are supposedly deemed not good enough for 2026's standards, so the material will systematically be subject to a new contemporary mix from now on. . If it's true, and I hope it isn't, this is really, really bad. In fairness, the rumour says that they will be staying as close to the original mix as possible and that the only reason they doing what they're doing is because his original mixes sound crap due to the outdated technology he used on the original recordings. So it's not like they're going to butcher his work like they did with the MJ Xcape album. What we hear will still sound essentially the same as the original recordings. We Know I pledge Allegiance and With This Tear are new mixes andcthey sound great. | |
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Wow , seeing all these comments , what if Londell is basing his releases based on this forum , and gaging the temperature and seeing how every comment is cycnical and pessimistic, he decides to give you exactly what you are saying he is going to release ...
I for one am not going to slander Mr. Londell and just ask if he please release one of prince's full Unknown double or triple album , Parade Super Deluxe with Evolsidog and FunLove, he has locked away in the vault would work for me.
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In all fairness: . 1/ While remastering is a thing, remixing previously released old recordings is extremely rare, yet those recordings also used old tech (sometimes even older than Prince's career), so I assume they're deemed OK the way they are, aren't they? Did the Estate made a revolutionary discovery that eluded the whole music industry for decades, all by themselves, just because, you know, they're geniuses? . 2/ When it happens, such as with Bowie's string of recent reissues, fans can always turn back to the original mix (or master, if needs be). This isn't something we can do with previously unreleased material. And usually, when it happens to unreleased recordings, it's either because no mix existed or because the artist is still alive and wishes to "finish" the job, which is different than when the artist is gone (in which case, the material should be left alone IMNSHO). . 3/ The Estate already proceeded in new mixes in the past, but the argument was that the only existing mixes were either on cassette or entirely non-existant. In the first case, at least, I always said they should have released the cassette mixes (which they also did on some occasions, because the stems couldn't be found) or, at the very least, make those separately available for purchase to hardcore fans (for example, on Bandcamp). . 4/ Here, the argument is much worse: it just claims that anything mixed in the past sucks, which is utter nonsense. . 5/ That is not to say better mixes couldn't be made: we know Prince was far from being an audiophile and that his mixes were often hastily made (that didn't stop him from selling over a hundred million records, though). The question remains, once again: what is the purpose of those releases? Do they aim to document Prince's recording career or to make it more radio-friendly in the hope to sell it on an equal foot with new recordings by current artists? If the Estate reasons in the latter terms, my position has always been clear: it's very, very wrong. And then again, why bother releasing crappy-sounding demos like Don't Let Him Fool Ya, Horny Pony or Standing At The Altar? Oh, wait, could it be because the fans want to hear them? . 6/ Plus, if they go down that path, then why not have young artists remix the songs entirely to make them sound like 2026? That, I'm sure, is something most of us would disapprove (except those few idiots who rejoice in having fake AI Prince songs, that is). . 7/ Let us also remember that no matter how close a new mix tries to be to the original it tries to emulate, it still is a new mix, meaning that the song the way Prince intended or, at least, left it, remains out of reach for us. . So, maybe it's just a fake rumor anyway. That Decades title sounds so incredibly dumb and unrelated to anything that it sure sounds like fake news. So perhaps we're discussing this for no good reason, but if we are, they continue their trend of doing just about everything wrong. I think at some point, perhaps we shopuld flood websites such as SuperDeluxeEdition and the music press with emails complaing about the products quality: because they're not hardcore fans, most music journalists have systematically failed to report on the releases' multiple issues. Maybe someone need to let them know so they can put some pressure on the Estate (since the Estate openly despises us). A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Yeah, but that's not the point. . I'm sorry to rain on yopur parade (pun intended), but those releases should not exist for the sole purpose of entertaining you: their historical value is superior to your personal enjoyment. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I agree that namecalling isn't the way. . That said, the Estate (Mr. Howe before, and now, very openly, Mr. McMillan) have repeatedly shown their disdain of what is, primarily, their core customer base. I know Prince fans form a really unhealthy community: we already did when Prince was alive (and I denounced that toxicity times and times over back then), so whatever they do, there would be some critics and some verbal abuse, and it's not cool. . That said, if I were to list the technical errors and debatable, if not dubious decisions made with nearly each and every posthumous release, I'm sure everyone—including non fans—would agree that there is cause for criticism. Ten years is a long time to accumulate errors over and over again, release after release. Once or twice is an accident. Every time is being sloppy. . So yeah, it'd be nice to try and tone down the namecalling. HOWEver (pun intended), that doesn't change the fact that the work is either not done, or poorly done most of the time. And that is on them, not us. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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ShellyMcG said: databank said: I'm surprised no one mentioned the rumor that's doing the round elsewhere: Prince's original mixes are supposedly deemed not good enough for 2026's standards, so the material will systematically be subject to a new contemporary mix from now on. . If it's true, and I hope it isn't, this is really, really bad. In fairness, the rumour says that they will be staying as close to the original mix as possible and that the only reason they doing what they're doing is because his original mixes sound crap due to the outdated technology he used on the original recordings. So it's not like they're going to butcher his work like they did with the MJ Xcape album. What we hear will still sound essentially the same as the original recordings. Yes you're right and they do this all the time so I don't have any problem with that. [Edited 5/29/26 15:23pm] U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
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Getting word from my souce that due to vinyl pressing issues due to COVID-19, this has been delayed to a tentative date of Spring 2027. | |
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- The acidification of acidifications. Is it really that hard to interpret. The Celebration... maybe we get some news, although i doubt it, just like you.
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In all fairness: . 1/ While remastering is a thing, remixing previously released old recordings is extremely rare, yet those recordings also used old tech (sometimes even older than Prince's career), so I assume they're deemed OK the way they are, aren't they? Did the Estate made a revolutionary discovery that eluded the whole music industry for decades, all by themselves, just because, you know, they're geniuses? . 2/ When it happens, such as with Bowie's string of recent reissues, fans can always turn back to the original mix (or master, if needs be). This isn't something we can do with previously unreleased material. And usually, when it happens to unreleased recordings, it's either because no mix existed or because the artist is still alive and wishes to "finish" the job, which is different than when the artist is gone (in which case, the material should be left alone IMNSHO). . 3/ The Estate already proceeded in new mixes in the past, but the argument was that the only existing mixes were either on cassette or entirely non-existant. In the first case, at least, I always said they should have released the cassette mixes (which they also did on some occasions, because the stems couldn't be found) or, at the very least, make those separately available for purchase to hardcore fans (for example, on Bandcamp). . 4/ Here, the argument is much worse: it just claims that anything mixed in the past sucks, which is utter nonsense. . 5/ That is not to say better mixes couldn't be made: we know Prince was far from being an audiophile and that his mixes were often hastily made (that didn't stop him from selling over a hundred million records, though). The question remains, once again: what is the purpose of those releases? Do they aim to document Prince's recording career or to make it more radio-friendly in the hope to sell it on an equal foot with new recordings by current artists? If the Estate reasons in the latter terms, my position has always been clear: it's very, very wrong. And then again, why bother releasing crappy-sounding demos like Don't Let Him Fool Ya, Horny Pony or Standing At The Altar? Oh, wait, could it be because the fans want to hear them? . 6/ Plus, if they go down that path, then why not have young artists remix the songs entirely to make them sound like 2026? That, I'm sure, is something most of us would disapprove (except those few idiots who rejoice in having fake AI Prince songs, that is). . 7/ Let us also remember that no matter how close a new mix tries to be to the original it tries to emulate, it still is a new mix, meaning that the song the way Prince intended or, at least, left it, remains out of reach for us. . So, maybe it's just a fake rumor anyway. That Decades title sounds so incredibly dumb and unrelated to anything that it sure sounds like fake news. So perhaps we're discussing this for no good reason, but if we are, they continue their trend of doing just about everything wrong. I think at some point, perhaps we shopuld flood websites such as SuperDeluxeEdition and the music press with emails complaing about the products quality: because they're not hardcore fans, most music journalists have systematically failed to report on the releases' multiple issues. Maybe someone need to let them know so they can put some pressure on the Estate (since the Estate openly despises us). Ok | |
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MIRvmn1 said: ShellyMcG said: In fairness, the rumour says that they will be staying as close to the original mix as possible and that the only reason they doing what they're doing is because his original mixes sound crap due to the outdated technology he used on the original recordings. So it's not like they're going to butcher his work like they did with the MJ Xcape album. What we hear will still sound essentially the same as the original recordings. Yes you're right and they do this all the time so I don't have any problem with that. [Edited 5/29/26 15:23pm] Exactly. As has been pointed out already, they've done it before. And the results were really good. So I don't see why some people are getting their knickers in a twist about it. [Edited 5/29/26 19:07pm] | |
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. And I repeat: go on the available data. Have the current estate ever announced something during the Celebration? D&P SDE was only announced weeks after. | |
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ShellyMcG said: MIRvmn1 said: Yes you're right and they do this all the time so I don't have any problem with that. [Edited 5/29/26 15:23pm] Exactly. As has been pointed out already, they've done it before. And the results were really good. So I don't see why some people are getting their knickers in a twist about it. [Edited 5/29/26 19:07pm] Good lord in heaven. Just do whatever the fuck you want to those songs. Lord knows half of SOTT SDE sounds like Prince wiped his ass with the tapes, so yeah, I guess I could do with a better mix of Wally, yet it isn't what we got and I'm ok with it. But ok. Bowie does it respectfully I'd say. Play with it. Remix it. Have the people involved reinterpret it. Yeah, cool, Whatever it is you need to be on Stranger Things... Just. Release. The. Originals. As. Well. Is that such an extravagant, extraordinary thing to wish for? Guys, seriously? [Self Edited for the sake of remaining polite towards the Estate, not y'all] [Edited 5/29/26 22:36pm] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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I think an example of Estate"s remastering/remix are the Musicology b-side estate "releases" some times ago. United States Of Division, Silver Tongue and Magnificent were remastered with a new mix for United States Of Division and Silver Tongue. No informations about the way they did it. It was good? I think the tracks were better than previous versions, but the lack of information is unacceptable for anyone who is not an occasional listener. | |
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