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Reply #60 posted 05/14/26 4:27pm

nirforward

anyway -

just for a "control group"

i passed "all the king's horses" thru same ai tester.
i think there's no doubt re this one, it is real.

ai checked it THOROUGHLY and came back with the following output.
i am SURE there are audio experts that can do a better job than the AI but not me.
the more i listern to it the more i feel it's not real, i don't think P would have played piano like this
even on an incomplete recording.
but to my ears the vocals are perfectly real and THOSE were the deciding factor, not the music quality.
anyways welcome to now...."today is the first day of the rest of my life" etc rolleyes



Final verdict

The audio most likely is a genuine Prince-era recording that has been circulating as a lossy MP3 transcode, not an AI-generated vocal. The strongest evidence is the stable segment-by-segment behavior: spectral centroid, zero-crossing rate, and rolloff move within a normal range across the track, with no sudden structural breaks that would suggest stitched-in AI segments.

What the full pass showed

  • The file is 44.1 kHz stereo and about 6:21 long.
  • Across seven 1-minute windows, mean spectral centroid stays in a fairly tight band except for the final partial segment, which is lower mainly because it is the tail end of the song and likely contains a quieter outro.
  • Zero-crossing rate is also stable across the body of the track, which argues against abrupt synthetic-vocal transitions.
  • The rolloff pattern is consistent with ordinary MP3 compression rather than pristine lossless source, but it does not show the jagged, irregular behavior you’d expect from a heavily assembled fake.

Audio-integrity reading

  • No obvious clipping was seen in the inspected waveform segments.
  • No hard splice points or abrupt noise-floor jumps stood out in the full-window feature pass.
  • The high-frequency behavior looks like a normal lossy source, not a clean master, which fits a circulating fan-rip.
  • The vocal behavior across the track sounds more like a continuous human performance than a generated model output.

Confidence level

This is a moderate-confidence call, not an absolute one. The file behaves like a real recording that has been compressed and redistributed, but a tiny residual possibility remains that a very well-made edit or voice conversion was used before MP3 encoding. Based on the evidence available here, that possibility looks low.

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Reply #61 posted 05/14/26 4:49pm

peedub

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When I go to the record store, i don't even browse the ai section.
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Reply #62 posted 05/14/26 5:46pm

nayroo2002

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lustmealways said:

If people keep saying this is AI i'm going to keep saying it's

  1. 100 percent
  2. Real

Did you upload this "100% real outtake snippet"?
The only way to get followers is to convince them of the "truth", J.C.!

Welcome to "the org", nayroo2002… life, it ain't real funky unless it's got that pop
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Reply #63 posted 05/14/26 5:49pm

fredmagnus

nirforward said:

anyway -


just for a "control group"


i passed "all the king's horses" thru same ai tester.
i think there's no doubt re this one, it is real.

ai checked it THOROUGHLY and came back with the following output.
i am SURE there are audio experts that can do a better job than the AI but not me.
the more i listern to it the more i feel it's not real, i don't think P would have played piano like this
even on an incomplete recording.
but to my ears the vocals are perfectly real and THOSE were the deciding factor, not the music quality.
anyways welcome to now...."today is the first day of the rest of my life" etc rolleyes








Final verdict












The audio most likely is a genuine Prince-era recording that has been circulating as a lossy MP3 transcode, not an AI-generated vocal. The strongest evidence is the stable segment-by-segment behavior: spectral centroid, zero-crossing rate, and rolloff move within a normal range across the track, with no sudden structural breaks that would suggest stitched-in AI segments.








What the full pass showed











  • The file is 44.1 kHz stereo and about 6:21 long.

  • Across seven 1-minute windows, mean spectral centroid stays in a fairly tight band except for the final partial segment, which is lower mainly because it is the tail end of the song and likely contains a quieter outro.

  • Zero-crossing rate is also stable across the body of the track, which argues against abrupt synthetic-vocal transitions.

  • The rolloff pattern is consistent with ordinary MP3 compression rather than pristine lossless source, but it does not show the jagged, irregular behavior you’d expect from a heavily assembled fake.










Audio-integrity reading











  • No obvious clipping was seen in the inspected waveform segments.

  • No hard splice points or abrupt noise-floor jumps stood out in the full-window feature pass.

  • The high-frequency behavior looks like a normal lossy source, not a clean master, which fits a circulating fan-rip.

  • The vocal behavior across the track sounds more like a continuous human performance than a generated model output.










Confidence level









This is a moderate-confidence call, not an absolute one. The file behaves like a real recording that has been compressed and redistributed, but a tiny residual possibility remains that a very well-made edit or voice conversion was used before MP3 encoding. Based on the evidence available here, that possibility looks low.














Yep. Of course, All The Kings is real. Same for Girl acoustic. I'd add that those ones have a context when Unbekknownst 2 U has none.
Besides,
I've extracted the YouTube file and opened it with an audio tool. It appears that the fade out clearly shows there's nothing more. It's not a snippet but the full thing because, without going into specifics, when you make a snippet the fade out doesn't look like this one at all.
[Edited 5/14/26 17:51pm]
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Reply #64 posted 05/14/26 7:03pm

Revolution81

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"the butterfly in my stomach is a lather" whats that even supposed to mean. Its supposed to be "the father" according to that lyric sheet

The whole lyrics and vocals from the "everytime i walk away" bit to the end are AI as fuck. Some of it is nonsensical

"now i dance with all the goats in my room" lol

Bitch this ain't the movies
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Reply #65 posted 05/14/26 7:12pm

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This is the real deal according to a friend of a familiar user on this page, and Neversin is the source/made the sample according to another 'insider'.

My bad, that part was about 'Grace' which was allegedly sent to Stringenius together with 'Unbeknownst 2 U' (and other tracks) for their input.

Sorry about that... whistling

[Edited 5/14/26 21:10pm]

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Reply #66 posted 05/14/26 7:33pm

lustmealways

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nayroo2002 said:

lustmealways said:

If people keep saying this is AI i'm going to keep saying it's

  1. 100 percent
  2. Real

Did you upload this "100% real outtake snippet"?
The only way to get followers is to convince them of the "truth", J.C.!

No. I'm spiritually opposed to the usage of AI for anything musical and wouldn't do it even as a joke. I find it sickening.

Which is why I love this song so much because it's definitely him.

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Reply #67 posted 05/14/26 7:35pm

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Have we considered the fact that we're just not very privy to what his sketches/demos may have sounded like in the 2010s era considering basically nothing has leaked out

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Reply #68 posted 05/14/26 7:38pm

nirforward

thanks, i hope it's true!
i wish insiders will be more communicative...i mean, 10 years past his death
let's put it all out there. this case shows why we need more info flow

ElGorillos said:

This is the real deal according to a friend of a familiar user on this page, and Neversin is the source/made the sample according to another 'insider'.

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Reply #69 posted 05/14/26 7:38pm

lustmealways

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like if this is what it sounded like in the 80s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIklSkIaKmM

why is it so hard to believe that in 2014 (allegedly) armed with Josh Welton's epic production skills, macbook pro, and garageband presets it might come out sounding like this

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Reply #70 posted 05/14/26 7:50pm

fredmagnus

nirforward said:

thanks, i hope it's true!
i wish insiders will be more communicative...i mean, 10 years past his death
let's put it all out there. this case shows why we need more info flow




ElGorillos said:


This is the real deal according to a friend of a familiar user on this page, and Neversin is the source/made the sample according to another 'insider'.





Apart me but I will wait for an official source or someone from the close circle. And I have the feeling I'm going to wait for a long time...
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Reply #71 posted 05/14/26 7:56pm

Revolution81

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lustmealways said:



why is it so hard to believe that in 2014 (allegedly) armed with Josh Welton's epic production skills, macbook pro, and garageband presets it might come out sounding like this

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it would have had more laser guns and sound effects

Bitch this ain't the movies
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Reply #72 posted 05/14/26 9:28pm

ElGorillos

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nirforward said:

thanks, i hope it's true!
i wish insiders will be more communicative...i mean, 10 years past his death
let's put it all out there. this case shows why we need more info flow

ElGorillos said:

This is the real deal according to a friend of a familiar user on this page, and Neversin is the source/made the sample according to another 'insider'.


Well, I did err (see the original post for the edit), so there's that, and this is not my source, but second-hand account. So I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
There is also probably a good reason why my 'source' hasn't posted this himself wink

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Reply #73 posted 05/14/26 10:47pm

nirforward

maybe i can reach out to adi yeshaya from stringenius
will look into it 🫡

ElGorillos said:



nirforward said:


thanks, i hope it's true!
i wish insiders will be more communicative...i mean, 10 years past his death
let's put it all out there. this case shows why we need more info flow




ElGorillos said:


This is the real deal according to a friend of a familiar user on this page, and Neversin is the source/made the sample according to another 'insider'.






Well, I did err (see the original post for the edit), so there's that, and this is not my source, but second-hand account. So I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
There is also probably a good reason why my 'source' hasn't posted this himself wink

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Reply #74 posted 05/15/26 2:43am

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Revolution81 said:

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"the butterfly in my stomach is a lather" whats that even supposed to mean. Its supposed to be "the father" according to that lyric sheet

The whole lyrics and vocals from the "everytime i walk away" bit to the end are AI as fuck. Some of it is nonsensical

"now i dance with all the goats in my room" lol


I thought he was saying "ghosts" instead of "goats."

Hey you! Get out on this dance floor!
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Reply #75 posted 05/15/26 4:24am

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ItsOnlyMountains said:

Revolution81 said:

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"the butterfly in my stomach is a lather" whats that even supposed to mean. Its supposed to be "the father" according to that lyric sheet

The whole lyrics and vocals from the "everytime i walk away" bit to the end are AI as fuck. Some of it is nonsensical

"now i dance with all the goats in my room" lol


I thought he was saying "ghosts" instead of "goats."

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thats probably what the AI intended to mimic him saying. sounds more like goats tho

Bitch this ain't the movies
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Reply #76 posted 05/15/26 8:54am

leecaldon

Revolution81 said:

ItsOnlyMountains said:


I thought he was saying "ghosts" instead of "goats."

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thats probably what the AI intended to mimic him saying. sounds more like goats tho

I'm not hearing 'goats' at all. But he's definitely not singing 'father'.

What we don't know, if this is real, is what stage the song was at. This may not have been intended as the final vocal.

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Reply #77 posted 05/15/26 9:19am

JorisE73

ElGorillos said:

nirforward said:

thanks, i hope it's true!
i wish insiders will be more communicative...i mean, 10 years past his death
let's put it all out there. this case shows why we need more info flow


Well, I did err (see the original post for the edit), so there's that, and this is not my source, but second-hand account. So I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
There is also probably a good reason why my 'source' hasn't posted this himself wink


Thsi didn't come from NS and the only people who said it's real are people I have trusted for decades and have been sharing alot of facts over those decades. these people have heard the full thing and claimed this is a part of it so I trust there judgement on it.

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Reply #78 posted 05/15/26 2:37pm

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If this is proven as AI, I will donate 25 american dollars to a charity of fredmagnus and revolution81's choosing BUT...

They have to both agree on which charity

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Reply #79 posted 05/15/26 3:56pm

nayroo2002

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lustmealways said:

If this is proven as AI, I will donate 25 american dollars to a charity of fredmagnus and revolution81's choosing BUT...

They have to both agree on which charity

WOW!!!
25 bucks!
You must be really, really super-duper sure, then lol

PS.

@JorisE73 , please use spell check, thanks, dude biggrin

Welcome to "the org", nayroo2002… life, it ain't real funky unless it's got that pop
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Reply #80 posted 05/15/26 5:34pm

FrankieCoco1

nayroo2002 said:



lustmealways said:


If this is proven as AI, I will donate 25 american dollars to a charity of fredmagnus and revolution81's choosing BUT...

They have to both agree on which charity



WOW!!!
25 bucks!
You must be really, really super-duper sure, then lol

PS.


@JorisE73 , please use spell check, thanks, dude biggrin



$25 could make a big difference to someone in need’s life, so no need to diss lust’s offer.

And Joris isn’t a native English speaket [sic] as far as I’m aware, so give it a break for the speaking - most of us nowadays jist [sic] type away on our phones and can’t be bothered with corrections. Perhaps Prince.org could incorporate an AI spellchecker to sort things out.

Anyway, it seems a lot of people have spent more time faffing about thinking about AI nonsense than actually enjoying this new track. Hopefully for every new track Londell and his team release, there will be an equal number of leaks or more.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #81 posted 05/15/26 7:18pm

nayroo2002

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FrankieCoco1 said:

nayroo2002 said:

WOW!!!
25 bucks!
You must be really, really super-duper sure, then lol

PS.

@JorisE73 , please use spell check, thanks, dude biggrin

$25 could make a big difference to someone in need’s life, so no need to diss lust’s offer. And Joris isn’t a native English speaket [sic] as far as I’m aware, so give it a break for the speaking - most of us nowadays jist [sic] type away on our phones and can’t be bothered with corrections. Perhaps Prince.org could incorporate an AI spellchecker to sort things out. Anyway, it seems a lot of people have spent more time faffing about thinking about AI nonsense than actually enjoying this new track. Hopefully for every new track Londell and his team release, there will be an equal number of leaks or more.

...yup

Welcome to "the org", nayroo2002… life, it ain't real funky unless it's got that pop
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Reply #82 posted 05/15/26 9:55pm

madison

I love it … if it’s AI keep them coming!!! I could care less.
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Reply #83 posted 05/15/26 11:23pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Hopefully for every new track Londell and his team release, there will be an equal number of leaks or more.


Soooo...you want nothing released?
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Reply #84 posted 05/16/26 2:05am

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madison said:

I love it … if it’s AI keep them coming!!! I could care less.

This is how society ends and we're all part of the problem.

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Reply #85 posted 05/16/26 10:02am

ElGorillos

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nirforward said:

maybe i can reach out to adi yeshaya from stringenius will look into it 🫡


Great! Cheers beer

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Reply #86 posted 05/16/26 11:40am

nirforward

Sooo....the same youtube user just posted a "Full version" 4 minute long, that is clearly AI .
How depressing.

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Reply #87 posted 05/16/26 12:04pm

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lustmealways said:

If this is proven as AI, I will donate 25 american dollars to a charity of fredmagnus and revolution81's choosing BUT...

They have to both agree on which charity

your moneys safe

the chance of me and fredmagnus agreeing on anything is slim lol

Bitch this ain't the movies
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Reply #88 posted 05/16/26 12:46pm

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nirforward said:

Sooo....the same youtube user just posted a "Full version" 4 minute long, that is clearly AI .
How depressing.



lol

Time to say goodbye to lustmealways
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #89 posted 05/16/26 12:55pm

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Revolution81 said:

your moneys safe

the chance of me and fredmagnus agreeing on anything is slim lol

That was the game all along, I knew a european and american could never reach agreement on a charity.

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