NouveauDance said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Prince fans need to come to grips with the truth that Prince was an abuser. I did last year, it was hard for me to realize this. Everyone is not lying.

Who is "everyone" besides Jill Jones and Sinead O'Connor?

Those who collaborated in the NF documentary perhaps...

Obviously there were more stories, as Ezra likes to dig deep, to delve under surfaces. Plus the fact that Prince is not here anymore, gives some people the oportunity to open up.

All these elements together... And each and everyone who worked with Prince knew how hard he was, how everyone was on their toes so to say when he was around. It's no secret.

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And finaly it was Susan Rogers who told The Estate to pull the plug of the NF doc.

By the way, she also had her stories... but she knows how to balance her empathy and was always able to keep the shit from hitting the fan in the media, and with Prince most importantly.

She left the Prince camp if I'm not mistaken.

Some people didn't, hoping for years for a promised projects etc.

[Edited 5/18/26 10:03am]

mclihah2 said:

rap said:

What makes you think she's a racist?

It’s the 'these' that gives it away. It lumps a massive, diverse group of people into one bucket and suggests they all have the same inherent flaws. If you’re judging a whole race based onthe action of one or a few, that’s racist, by definition, right?.

imagine if she said...

"These Asians just can't help themselves can they?"
or
"These Jews just can't help themselves can they?"

or
"These black people just can't help themselves can they?"

I can't see it any other way

and my personal opinion is that racism is vile... so I would say "vile racist"

How can you be so sure she acuses a whole group of people with this one word?

There's a clear context. And we were not there.

Plus, you interpret it that way, online, openly.

Plus, can you say you were never challenged, on the edge of saying or thinking wrong?

I don' dare to say that of myself, although I am not a racist at heart, but, still constantly being challenged.

I share an apartment in a block with 12 different nationalities, and i'm gay.

Wanna know how it's like to deal with the fights inside yourself, when some religeous driven people treat me like shit, all the time? Don't wanna share the elevator with me, or give me a hand, or want to look at me, or answer a simple question. Im' not even allowed to say 'hello' to their kids. Wanna know how that feels?

I can take a lot, but If i have a bad day... believe me, every one of us is challenged.

I'm just plain honest here. I certainly don't want to act like a saint.

I can't imagine Jill being a racist. That word is so easy to use these days.

So when Prince didn't agree with the relatioship between Wendy and Lisa, was he a racist homophobic (too)? (No, he wasn't. Let's say he was confused, fucked up by religion, which he corrected later on in his life. Good!)

That word 'racist/racism' is so overly used often in the slightest small contexts, certainly online. And for what? A 'like'? Finding equals to frustrate together against 'others'?

[Edited 5/19/26 16:38pm]

I don't know Jill Jones personally, but from communicating with her para-socially (Facebook) she has never appeared in any way racist. It would be fair to characterise her political views as anti-imperialist and anti-Netanyahu (as are many Israeli citizens in fact) and humanist.

I think that she has been taken out of context in this discussion on the org and misrepresented.

Vannormal said:

Don't wanna share the elevator with me, or give me a hand, or want to look at me, or answer a simple question. Im' not even allowed to say 'hello' to their kids. Wanna know how that feels?

these must be white christians, right?

lustmealways said:

Vannormal said:

Don't wanna share the elevator with me, or give me a hand, or want to look at me, or answer a simple question. Im' not even allowed to say 'hello' to their kids. Wanna know how that feels?

these must be white christians, right?

Probably just any religious fanatic, isn't this just there schtick and there whole excuse to denegrate women?

Vannormal said:

Wanna know how it's like to deal with the fights inside yourself, when some religeous driven people treat me like shit, all the time? Don't wanna share the elevator with me, or give me a hand, or want to look at me, or answer a simple question. Im' not even allowed to say 'hello' to their kids. Wanna know how that feels?

That's awful. Sorry to read that.

Vannormal said:

mclihah2 said:

So when Prince didn't agree with the relatioship between Wendy and Lisa, was he a racist too?

[Edited 5/18/26 10:01am]

Not racist. Racism is about race. Ppl call him homophobic because of it.

paisleyparkgirl said:

Vannormal said:

So when Prince didn't agree with the relatioship between Wendy and Lisa,

was he a racist homophobic (too)?

Not racist. Racism is about race. Ppl call him homophobic because of it.

Exactly, wrong word.

Thanks for putting this straight.