How is that a deadline?

But I have zero faith in the estate to do anything other than some cheap ass output like ATWIAD with Parade.

Fuck you Charles Spicer and Londell McMillian. You're leeches. Nothing else.

The estate has AFAIK never announced anything in the first four months of the year (perhaps Originals?). Hell, we'll be lucky if we get an announcement during the Celebration, and I wouldn't be surprised that we'll only get an announcement weeks after.

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They just waste four to six months, when they could easily drop a single outtake each month. They could easily commemorate 21 April by releasing a previously unreleased concert recording; instead the best they can do is some small event at Paisley Park.

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But they haven't done so in the previous years, and thus they won't do something now.

The absolute most we'll get is a bare bones remaster like they did with ATWIAD. No chance in hell they actually deliver on any vault material at this point.

This year should see the release of a Parade SDE and his final show(s) in Atlanta in 2016. Too bad that both are becoming less and less likely even though both are no-brainers. Most likely we'll continue to complain about how Londell can keep his position while being so incompetent.

[Edited 3/7/26 21:54pm]

I want a Parade SDE as much as any other lifelong Prince fan, but let's be honest...

The whole point of putting out anything is to net a profit. Best case scenario is to make a killing, while the worst case scenario is you don't even break even and end up taking a loss. I think our desire to get everything Prince has in his vault is fogging our brains to the simple fact that the Estate will not make money on a Parade SDE.

Greatest thing for us Prince fams? Absolutely. A profitable venture? Not at all.

They know this and, deep down, we as fans know this. And if you don't, then you don't know business. And, keeping it real, in the beginning, the Estate didn't really know business either. They should have waiting on the Sign o' the Times SDE, but I think that that SDE and the D&P SDE painted a soberingly bleak picture for how profitable these projects are. Plus in the age of tariffs and the like, production costs are probably ridiculously higher than they ever were in the past.

I want a Parade SDE so bad, but it's highly unlikely it will be a bulky, extravagant package, unfortunately.

At this point, though, I would accept a digital release at the absolute least.

TheBigBang said:

The whole point of putting out anything is to net a profit. Best case scenario is to make a killing, while the worst case scenario is you don't even break even and end up taking a loss. I think our desire to get everything Prince has in his vault is fogging our brains to the simple fact that the Estate will not make money on a Parade SDE.

Greatest thing for us Prince fams? Absolutely. A profitable venture? Not at all.

They know this and, deep down, we as fans know this. And if you don't, then you don't know business.

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

dustoff said:

TheBigBang said:

The whole point of putting out anything is to net a profit. Best case scenario is to make a killing, while the worst case scenario is you don't even break even and end up taking a loss. I think our desire to get everything Prince has in his vault is fogging our brains to the simple fact that the Estate will not make money on a Parade SDE.

Greatest thing for us Prince fams? Absolutely. A profitable venture? Not at all.

They know this and, deep down, we as fans know this. And if you don't, then you don't know business.

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

Right!?! So tired of hearing this "not profitable" excuse. It's bullshit. Maybe the vinyl box sets aren't profitable but the CD versions absolutely are. If they can't make it profitable, fire them and hire someone who can.

Do the SDE's on CD only, then, later, release the vault material included as individual, more affordable, vinyl releases. Like the RSD live D&P release. They could do that and individual "From The Vault" vinyl releases to get it on the format for those of us that want it, just not all at once at a big price most can't afford. It's not rocket surgery, many in the industry could make it work. For that matter, many of us could do better than they are.

Fire every one of them that claims they can't make it profitable.

You'll get an 8 second AI clip instagram post and like it.

No way in Hades can anyone convince me "the estate" is making any monies....They sell crap overpriced clothes, trinkets, and baubles that no one in their right mind would buy. Then they got their nerve to try and sell us music that we have already bought. Then they try to hypnotize us with a "remaster" as if we can't "remaster" it on our own with free software....And the kicker is that we don't even know if it is the way that Prince would "remaster" the audio... It's almost like they are purposely trying to bury his legacy...

databank said:

We can spend the rest of our lives calling them names and complaining about no vault releases to no avail (they don't care). Or we can move on.

Knowing that voicing our opinion could eventually lead to a change of the guard, better products at a better pace, and more profit for the estate (all of which happened with Frank Zappa), I'll keep calling them out. Not moving on as long as there's material to release that most of us would be happy to give our $ to get.

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djThunderfunk said:

dustoff said:

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

Right!?! So tired of hearing this "not profitable" excuse. It's bullshit. Maybe the vinyl box sets aren't profitable but the CD versions absolutely are. If they can't make it profitable, fire them and hire someone who can.

Do the SDE's on CD only, then, later, release the vault material included as individual, more affordable, vinyl releases. Like the RSD live D&P release. They could do that and individual "From The Vault" vinyl releases to get it on the format for those of us that want it, just not all at once at a big price most can't afford. It's not rocket surgery, many in the industry could make it work. For that matter, many of us could do better than they are.

Fire every one of them that claims they can't make it profitable.

?? vinyl sales have surpassed CD sales for years, 17% + since 2021 ... Vinyl accounts for 71% of all physical music sales revenue in the US as of 2024. so what are you talking about CD formats

If vinyl boxes aren't profitable you have to MAKE them profitable. I guess it were the heavy photo books in D&P and SOTT Deluxe edition and the DVDs that rocketed the production costs.

Do we know the profitability or otherwise of the previous deluxe editions/boxsets etc?

TheBigBang said:

I want a Parade SDE as much as any other lifelong Prince fan, but let's be honest...

The whole point of putting out anything is to net a profit. Best case scenario is to make a killing, while the worst case scenario is you don't even break even and end up taking a loss. I think our desire to get everything Prince has in his vault is fogging our brains to the simple fact that the Estate will not make money on a Parade SDE.

Greatest thing for us Prince fams? Absolutely. A profitable venture? Not at all.

They know this and, deep down, we as fans know this. And if you don't, then you don't know business. And, keeping it real, in the beginning, the Estate didn't really know business either. They should have waiting on the Sign o' the Times SDE, but I think that that SDE and the D&P SDE painted a soberingly bleak picture for how profitable these projects are. Plus in the age of tariffs and the like, production costs are probably ridiculously higher than they ever were in the past.

I want a Parade SDE so bad, but it's highly unlikely it will be a bulky, extravagant package, unfortunately.

At this point, though, I would accept a digital release at the absolute least.

Even a bootlegger with a lousy rehearsal on a cassette tape do make some profit. I know, a proper relase implies a lot more efforts and expenses and things are not that easy, but it's ridiculous to think the Estate can't make things work.

databank said:

We can spend the rest of our lives calling them names and complaining about no vault releases to no avail (they don't care). Or we can move on.

This, exactly. We are wasting so much time being frustrated that we're missing out on amazing music (new and old) other than Prince. Or anything else that rocks your boat.

psyche2 said:

databank said:

We can spend the rest of our lives calling them names and complaining about no vault releases to no avail (they don't care). Or we can move on.

This, exactly. We are wasting so much time being frustrated that we're missing out on amazing music (new and old) other than Prince. Or anything else that rocks your boat.

Some of us are capable of complaining about the Prince estate while at the same time enjoying other things. It's not a one-or-the-other situation.

dustoff said:

psyche2 said:

This, exactly. We are wasting so much time being frustrated that we're missing out on amazing music (new and old) other than Prince. Or anything else that rocks your boat.

Some of us are capable of complaining about the Prince estate while at the same time enjoying other things. It's not a one-or-the-other situation.

Of course, you're right, dustoff. And for starters I'm here almost on a daily basis But I, personally, feel somewhat better moving on from the frustration and trying to get my kicks elsewhere. I simply just don't expect anything from the current Estate.

psyche2 said:

dustoff said:

Some of us are capable of complaining about the Prince estate while at the same time enjoying other things. It's not a one-or-the-other situation.

Of course, you're right, dustoff. And for starters I'm here almost on a daily basis But I, personally, feel somewhat better moving on from the frustration and trying to get my kicks elsewhere. I simply just don't expect anything from the current Estate.

I agree with you there -- I don't expect anything either. At the same time, I can't bring myself to believe that voicing complaint about the current situation is entirely unproductive, if only incrementally. It seems to me that the estate (let's stop honoring them with the capitalized 'E' -- not calling you out here, I do it too) can only maintain the illusion that fan discontent is fake/meaningless for so long, before someone who actually cares about legacy (and profit) steps in. But of course I could be wrong about that too.

dustoff said:

psyche2 said:

This, exactly. We are wasting so much time being frustrated that we're missing out on amazing music (new and old) other than Prince. Or anything else that rocks your boat.

Some of us are capable of complaining about the Prince estate while at the same time enjoying other things. It's not a one-or-the-other situation.

Of course. Complaining for a long time without any noticeable change is tiring, though. For you, but also for everyone reading your complaints. I'm replying to your message, but this is nothing personal. I'm just saying this generally and as someone who has spent a lot of time complaining these last few years.

Edit: I saw psyche2's message after posting this.

[Edited 3/9/26 8:51am]

Rough said:

djThunderfunk said:

Right!?! So tired of hearing this "not profitable" excuse. It's bullshit. Maybe the vinyl box sets aren't profitable but the CD versions absolutely are. If they can't make it profitable, fire them and hire someone who can.

Do the SDE's on CD only, then, later, release the vault material included as individual, more affordable, vinyl releases. Like the RSD live D&P release. They could do that and individual "From The Vault" vinyl releases to get it on the format for those of us that want it, just not all at once at a big price most can't afford. It's not rocket surgery, many in the industry could make it work. For that matter, many of us could do better than they are.

Fire every one of them that claims they can't make it profitable.

?? vinyl sales have surpassed CD sales for years, 17% + since 2021 ... Vinyl accounts for 71% of all physical music sales revenue in the US as of 2024. so what are you talking about CD formats

If vinyl boxes aren't profitable you have to MAKE them profitable. I guess it were the heavy photo books in D&P and SOTT Deluxe edition and the DVDs that rocketed the production costs.

Agreed. It's the several hundred dollars vinyl sets that are the problem, which is why I suggest splitting them up and releasing them individually as a "from the vault" series of 2-3 records each.

And drop all the expensive extras, make the booklets cheaper, leave the bluray as part of the CD box only. That kind of thing.

If they can't make money off CD SDEs and vinyl releases that are 2-3 records each, then they are doing it wrong.

dustoff said:

TheBigBang said:

The whole point of putting out anything is to net a profit. Best case scenario is to make a killing, while the worst case scenario is you don't even break even and end up taking a loss. I think our desire to get everything Prince has in his vault is fogging our brains to the simple fact that the Estate will not make money on a Parade SDE.

Greatest thing for us Prince fams? Absolutely. A profitable venture? Not at all.

They know this and, deep down, we as fans know this. And if you don't, then you don't know business.

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

Maybe the estate (if they care at all) should talk to people actually making great looking sets...

Case in point, the "Terence Trent D'arby" box set coming out on March 13 looks 🔥🔥🔥 (four remastered albums; colored vinyl, restored artwork). I suspect that TTDs installed fan base pales in comparison to Prince's, but clearly, it's seen fit to release - and I'm sure profit is a goal and expectation.

Is there a "How to create a successful box set" seminar we can chip in to send the estate to?

TrivialPursuit said:

How is that a deadline?

But I have zero faith in the estate to do anything other than some cheap ass output like ATWIAD with Parade.

Fuck you Charles Spicer and Londell McMillian. You're leeches. Nothing else.

It's not. Releases are about anniversary years, not months.

pdiddy2011 said:

dustoff said:

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

Maybe the estate (if they care at all) should talk to people actually making great looking sets...

Case in point, the "Terence Trent D'arby" box set coming out on March 13 looks 🔥🔥🔥 (four remastered albums; colored vinyl, restored artwork). I suspect that TTDs installed fan base pales in comparison to Prince's, but clearly, it's seen fit to release - and I'm sure profit is a goal and expectation.

Is there a "How to create a successful box set" seminar we can chip in to send the estate to?

In my opinion, part of the problem (if we acknowledge this is a problem to the estate to begin with) is the very "super deluxe" concept that, let's reckon, doesn't really fit that well with Prince's vast vault catalogue. I'd much rather stand alone relases with previosuly unreleased stuff well conceived and curated. Having to go through X album remastered, and then every edit, B-Side and extended version that we already own just to get two or three discs of previously unreleased stuff only creates mammoth sets that can't statisfy everyone. This formula might work for other artists or bands with a different level archive material, but thinking of Prince, I don't see it fit. Said this, of course remastered albums are welcome, but, at least to me, considering all the prevoiusly unreleased stuff, remasters don't really appeal to me.

pdiddy2011 said:

dustoff said:

This is all total nonsense.

You only have to go on superdeluxeedition.com to see the volume of SDEs being published on a regular basis, by artists and albums FAR less popular than Prince / Parade. This month, for example, Kim Wilde's 1988 ablum "Close" -- an album that PEAKED on the US Billboard top 200 at NUMBER 114, for crying out loud -- is being released as a 2xCD+DVD box set, with a vinyl option. And that's only one of dozens of such projects that come out every month.

If the Estate can't make money off of a deluxe Parade reissue, it says a lot more about them than it does the market.

Maybe the estate (if they care at all) should talk to people actually making great looking sets...

Case in point, the "Terence Trent D'arby" box set coming out on March 13 looks 🔥🔥🔥 (four remastered albums; colored vinyl, restored artwork). I suspect that TTDs installed fan base pales in comparison to Prince's, but clearly, it's seen fit to release - and I'm sure profit is a goal and expectation.

Is there a "How to create a successful box set" seminar we can chip in to send the estate to?

I wasn't aware of those Sananda rereleases. While it's great to see his early works brought back to the public's attention, he has a REMARKABLE library of never rereleased b-sides from the Sony years' singles that truly deserve to be made available (not to mention the extended versions and remixes). Those could have been added as bonus tracks, or they could be the subject of their own compilation à la kate Bush's The Other Sides, but in the meantime, what a missed opportunity

msicfan said:

No way in Hades can anyone convince me "the estate" is making any monies....They sell crap overpriced clothes, trinkets, and baubles that no one in their right mind would buy. Then they got their nerve to try and sell us music that we have already bought. Then they try to hypnotize us with a "remaster" as if we can't "remaster" it on our own with free software....And the kicker is that we don't even know if it is the way that Prince would "remaster" the audio... It's almost like they are purposely trying to bury his legacy...

Prince himself never remastered any audio. He didn't mix, either. That's for professionals.

psyche2 said:

leecaldon said:

TrivialPursuit said:

How is that a deadline?

But I have zero faith in the estate to do anything other than some cheap ass output like ATWIAD with Parade.

Fuck you Charles Spicer and Londell McMillian. You're leeches. Nothing else.

It's not. Releases are about anniversary years, not months.

of course this is true.

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but dates are frequently used as a commemorative marker for interesting news, or hints, or hype; any other artist (or estate), if they were paying attention to the fan reception of the ATWIAD release, might think to throw a bone to the very people who could spread the word about an upcoming release. they don't use the outside media to do this to much acclaim or efficiency. their absolute indifference to us is what is most galling.

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YES, WE SHOULD MOVE ON. but for every 25 year old fan who discovered Purple Rain beause of Stranger Things, there are more than a handful of us who were AT the Purple Rain concert, and WE ARE OLD. WE ARE IN OUR LATE 50'S. 60'S. 70'S. and unless they do a MAJOR overhaul of how they promote his music WE are the people spending money on their property. and WE are the people who still want physical releases, and grew up in a time where you SPENT ACTUAL MONEY ON THINGS YOU WANTED.

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at any rate, i don't expect much. i'm hopeful. Parade is an important work, but is tainted by the self-indulgence mythology of the movie. It should be regarded as SOTT and 1999 are. i think many of us are just hoping the estate understand this too.