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Prince & The New Power Generation "Daddy Pop"

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Reply #1 posted 02/04/26 5:42pm

TrivialPursuit

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Prince was really on fire, re-invigorated, during this time. New band, new music. His performances had new oxygen in them.

The Glam Slam concert that came with D&P really surprised me by just how committed he was to this material and the show. Even songs that I wasn't overly thrilled with on D&P came to life in a live setting. "Daddy Pop" is a good example.

When Prince told his band, "gotta be better than the record," he wasn't kidding.

This "Daddy Pop" supercut encapsulates all that.

Every day when I awake, the greatest of joys is mine: that of being ME.
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Reply #2 posted 02/06/26 11:06am

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Irks me bad.

Silly music, clownesque looks (thank you MC Hammer),
ridicule choregraphies (don't start me on the assless pants sodomy mimicking, geez),
and the song is another narcissistic, self-indulging take ("Partyman" was already a thematic rehash of "Baby I'm A Star",
only saved by Jack Nicholson, a great 12 inches — in part because of Camille's Last Stand — and a funny video).

As time passes by, the periods that have aged poorly are becoming worse and worse.
The ecstatic reactions to the "Diamons & Love" batch leaves me speechless.
Everything about this period is lazy navel-gazing, screams desperation to stay relevant
by adopting the worst of pop, going after the imbecile hooks of the pathetic "New Jack Swing",
a genre whose corpse rightfully rots in a nostalgia bin placed at the end of the backyard,
for the awful stench it still emits.

Thank God he had the good reflex of shooting himself in the foot with the Warner feud,
so he could find new fuel and crawl back to a more honest and edgy stance.

Everything about this period screams self-indulgence, a sudden obsession
to become American again, and not in a good way, right at a moment where two decades of Reagan's unleashed Gekkos
had finally killed the last ounce of a Soul the country had (whatever soul they couldn't choke, killed itself in disgust anyway),
the moment in history where everything and everyone turned into a product, starting an age of global imbecillification
in which we're drowning, every year an inch deeper.

And so here we have Prince kissing superficiality, all tongue out,
eager to become a registered trademark, even before the symbol era.
The total opposite of the Pure Spirit that was brought out of darkness for too brief a moment.

Making holes in his pants (a rehash too: the conceptual well was definitely dry),
bending over and handing the vaseline to the corporate world and its shallow trends,
becoming a gizmo, yet another innocuous background noise for The Mall of America alleys.

"Dance commercial take one", yeah, you can say that again,
the whole era is artistically nutrient as half a bag of stale Cheetos.


[Edited 2/6/26 11:25am]

This young man with a talented soul died when he wanted 2
So he shall not B pitied, nor shall the guilty B forgiven
Until they find it in their hearts 2 Right the Wrong
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Reply #3 posted 02/06/26 12:11pm

ShellyMcG

BonnieC said:

Irks me bad.

Silly music, clownesque looks (thank you MC Hammer),
ridicule choregraphies (don't start me on the assless pants sodomy mimicking, geez),
and the song is another narcissistic, self-indulging take ("Partyman" was already a thematic rehash of "Baby I'm A Star",
only saved by Jack Nicholson, a great 12 inches — in part because of Camille's Last Stand — and a funny video).

As time passes by, the periods that have aged poorly are becoming worse and worse.
The ecstatic reactions to the "Diamons & Love" batch leaves me speechless.
Everything about this period is lazy navel-gazing, screams desperation to stay relevant
by adopting the worst of pop, going after the imbecile hooks of the pathetic "New Jack Swing",
a genre whose corpse rightfully rots in a nostalgia bin placed at the end of the backyard,
for the awful stench it still emits.

Thank God he had the good reflex of shooting himself in the foot with the Warner feud,
so he could find new fuel and crawl back to a more honest and edgy stance.

Everything about this period screams self-indulgence, a sudden obsession
to become American again, and not in a good way, right at a moment where two decades of Reagan's unleashed Gekkos
had finally killed the last ounce of a Soul the country had (whatever soul they couldn't choke, killed itself in disgust anyway),
the moment in history where everything and everyone turned into a product, starting an age of global imbecillification
in which we're drowning, every year an inch deeper.

And so here we have Prince kissing superficiality, all tongue out,
eager to become a registered trademark, even before the symbol era.
The total opposite of the Pure Spirit that was brought out of darkness for too brief a moment.

Making holes in his pants (a rehash too: the conceptual well was definitely dry),
bending over and handing the vaseline to the corporate world and its shallow trends,
becoming a gizmo, yet another innocuous background noise for The Mall of America alleys.

"Dance commercial take one", yeah, you can say that again,
the whole era is artistically nutrient as half a bag of stale Cheetos.




[Edited 2/6/26 11:25am]



Call me crazy but I'm kind of picking up the vibe that you don't like this era razz

In truth, I don't really like it either. The early 90s is by far my least favourite period in Prince's career. But even then, he still put out some great songs. Insatiable, Damn U, Cream, Peach, Money Don't Matter Tonight etc. Some great songs there. Unfortunately they can get lost in the shuffle of the Daddy Pops and Jugheads of the era but Prince is probably my favourite artist because even at his worst he was still capable of putting out something good.
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Reply #4 posted 02/06/26 3:25pm

skywalker

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ShellyMcG said:

BonnieC said:

Irks me bad.

Silly music, clownesque looks (thank you MC Hammer),
ridicule choregraphies (don't start me on the assless pants sodomy mimicking, geez),
and the song is another narcissistic, self-indulging take ("Partyman" was already a thematic rehash of "Baby I'm A Star",
only saved by Jack Nicholson, a great 12 inches — in part because of Camille's Last Stand — and a funny video).

As time passes by, the periods that have aged poorly are becoming worse and worse.
The ecstatic reactions to the "Diamons & Love" batch leaves me speechless.
Everything about this period is lazy navel-gazing, screams desperation to stay relevant
by adopting the worst of pop, going after the imbecile hooks of the pathetic "New Jack Swing",
a genre whose corpse rightfully rots in a nostalgia bin placed at the end of the backyard,
for the awful stench it still emits.

Thank God he had the good reflex of shooting himself in the foot with the Warner feud,
so he could find new fuel and crawl back to a more honest and edgy stance.

Everything about this period screams self-indulgence, a sudden obsession
to become American again, and not in a good way, right at a moment where two decades of Reagan's unleashed Gekkos
had finally killed the last ounce of a Soul the country had (whatever soul they couldn't choke, killed itself in disgust anyway),
the moment in history where everything and everyone turned into a product, starting an age of global imbecillification
in which we're drowning, every year an inch deeper.

And so here we have Prince kissing superficiality, all tongue out,
eager to become a registered trademark, even before the symbol era.
The total opposite of the Pure Spirit that was brought out of darkness for too brief a moment.

Making holes in his pants (a rehash too: the conceptual well was definitely dry),
bending over and handing the vaseline to the corporate world and its shallow trends,
becoming a gizmo, yet another innocuous background noise for The Mall of America alleys.

"Dance commercial take one", yeah, you can say that again,
the whole era is artistically nutrient as half a bag of stale Cheetos.


[Edited 2/6/26 11:25am]

Call me crazy but I'm kind of picking up the vibe that you don't like this era razz In truth, I don't really like it either. The early 90s is by far my least favourite period in Prince's career. But even then, he still put out some great songs. Insatiable, Damn U, Cream, Peach, Money Don't Matter Tonight etc. Some great songs there. Unfortunately they can get lost in the shuffle of the Daddy Pops and Jugheads of the era but Prince is probably my favourite artist because even at his worst he was still capable of putting out something good.

For a whole slew of Prince fans....the early 90's (Diamonds and Pearls) was their intro into Prince. I knew 1999, Purple Rain, etc. because my parents had those albums. I got into Prince because of Batman....but I MF'N LOVE 90's Prince. As was said, he was reinvigorated in this era. Thus, to me: All this stuff still holds up.

_

Daddy Pop is the same vibe that he had Wally, Greg, and Jerome in the 80's. I mean, you look at the Glam Slam '92 concert and is some peak Prince shit. I realize some fans don't like certain eras, but to me this is a golden era.

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #5 posted 02/06/26 4:25pm

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BonnieC said:

Irks me bad.

Silly music, clownesque looks (thank you MC Hammer),
ridicule choregraphies (don't start me on the assless pants sodomy mimicking, geez),
and the song is another narcissistic, self-indulging take ("Partyman" was already a thematic rehash of "Baby I'm A Star",
only saved by Jack Nicholson, a great 12 inches — in part because of Camille's Last Stand — and a funny video).

As time passes by, the periods that have aged poorly are becoming worse and worse.
The ecstatic reactions to the "Diamons & Love" batch leaves me speechless.
Everything about this period is lazy navel-gazing, screams desperation to stay relevant
by adopting the worst of pop, going after the imbecile hooks of the pathetic "New Jack Swing",
a genre whose corpse rightfully rots in a nostalgia bin placed at the end of the backyard,
for the awful stench it still emits.

Thank God he had the good reflex of shooting himself in the foot with the Warner feud,
so he could find new fuel and crawl back to a more honest and edgy stance.

Everything about this period screams self-indulgence, a sudden obsession
to become American again, and not in a good way, right at a moment where two decades of Reagan's unleashed Gekkos
had finally killed the last ounce of a Soul the country had (whatever soul they couldn't choke, killed itself in disgust anyway),
the moment in history where everything and everyone turned into a product, starting an age of global imbecillification
in which we're drowning, every year an inch deeper.

And so here we have Prince kissing superficiality, all tongue out,
eager to become a registered trademark, even before the symbol era.
The total opposite of the Pure Spirit that was brought out of darkness for too brief a moment.

Making holes in his pants (a rehash too: the conceptual well was definitely dry),
bending over and handing the vaseline to the corporate world and its shallow trends,
becoming a gizmo, yet another innocuous background noise for The Mall of America alleys.

"Dance commercial take one", yeah, you can say that again,
the whole era is artistically nutrient as half a bag of stale Cheetos.




[Edited 2/6/26 11:25am]



I do enjoy your posts.

I don't think there's any arguing that around this era he was looking for a way to become a more commercial artist.

Graffiti Bridge had caked it's pants twice, he was working with Jackson's former(?) manager, taking advice on singles. Yet at least half of D&P isn't commercial at all, I'm not saying that makes it artistic or "good" but for someone seemingly hell-bent on pop chart dominance, why include Jughead on the album?

But, Cream was and is a great song. Money don't matter, Gett Off, Willing and able. Daddy Pop and Jughead are fucking abysmal though. It's inconceivable how he thought they had any appeal let alone commercial appeal.

I feel like Daddy Pop may have been a reaction to MJ buying himself the title of "King of pop". It seems so petty and trivial. But it's Prince so...
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Reply #6 posted 02/06/26 4:57pm

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skywalker said:

ShellyMcG said:

BonnieC said: Call me crazy but I'm kind of picking up the vibe that you don't like this era razz In truth, I don't really like it either. The early 90s is by far my least favourite period in Prince's career. But even then, he still put out some great songs. Insatiable, Damn U, Cream, Peach, Money Don't Matter Tonight etc. Some great songs there. Unfortunately they can get lost in the shuffle of the Daddy Pops and Jugheads of the era but Prince is probably my favourite artist because even at his worst he was still capable of putting out something good.

For a whole slew of Prince fans....the early 90's (Diamonds and Pearls) was their intro into Prince. I knew 1999, Purple Rain, etc. because my parents had those albums. I got into Prince because of Batman....but I MF'N LOVE 90's Prince. As was said, he was reinvigorated in this era. Thus, to me: All this stuff still holds up.

_

Daddy Pop is the same vibe that he had Wally, Greg, and Jerome in the 80's. I mean, you look at the Glam Slam '92 concert and is some peak Prince shit. I realize some fans don't like certain eras, but to me this is a golden era.

His best onstage to me was until D&P era then the 2010's with Shelby and them. Then from the Slave era until the 2000's, I don't get the impression that he was having fun onstage. Don't like the Prince/Mayte raunchy stuff.

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Reply #7 posted 02/06/26 4:57pm

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skywalker said:

ShellyMcG said:

BonnieC said: Call me crazy but I'm kind of picking up the vibe that you don't like this era razz In truth, I don't really like it either. The early 90s is by far my least favourite period in Prince's career. But even then, he still put out some great songs. Insatiable, Damn U, Cream, Peach, Money Don't Matter Tonight etc. Some great songs there. Unfortunately they can get lost in the shuffle of the Daddy Pops and Jugheads of the era but Prince is probably my favourite artist because even at his worst he was still capable of putting out something good.

For a whole slew of Prince fans....the early 90's (Diamonds and Pearls) was their intro into Prince. I knew 1999, Purple Rain, etc. because my parents had those albums. I got into Prince because of Batman....but I MF'N LOVE 90's Prince. As was said, he was reinvigorated in this era. Thus, to me: All this stuff still holds up.

_

Daddy Pop is the same vibe that he had Wally, Greg, and Jerome in the 80's. I mean, you look at the Glam Slam '92 concert and is some peak Prince shit. I realize some fans don't like certain eras, but to me this is a golden era.

His best onstage to me was until D&P era then the 2010's with Shelby and them. Then from the Slave era until the 2000's, I don't get the impression that he was having fun onstage. Don't like the Prince/Mayte raunchy stuff.

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Reply #8 posted 02/06/26 5:10pm

ShellyMcG

skywalker said:



ShellyMcG said:


BonnieC said:

Irks me bad.

Silly music, clownesque looks (thank you MC Hammer),
ridicule choregraphies (don't start me on the assless pants sodomy mimicking, geez),
and the song is another narcissistic, self-indulging take ("Partyman" was already a thematic rehash of "Baby I'm A Star",
only saved by Jack Nicholson, a great 12 inches — in part because of Camille's Last Stand — and a funny video).

As time passes by, the periods that have aged poorly are becoming worse and worse.
The ecstatic reactions to the "Diamons & Love" batch leaves me speechless.
Everything about this period is lazy navel-gazing, screams desperation to stay relevant
by adopting the worst of pop, going after the imbecile hooks of the pathetic "New Jack Swing",
a genre whose corpse rightfully rots in a nostalgia bin placed at the end of the backyard,
for the awful stench it still emits.

Thank God he had the good reflex of shooting himself in the foot with the Warner feud,
so he could find new fuel and crawl back to a more honest and edgy stance.

Everything about this period screams self-indulgence, a sudden obsession
to become American again, and not in a good way, right at a moment where two decades of Reagan's unleashed Gekkos
had finally killed the last ounce of a Soul the country had (whatever soul they couldn't choke, killed itself in disgust anyway),
the moment in history where everything and everyone turned into a product, starting an age of global imbecillification
in which we're drowning, every year an inch deeper.

And so here we have Prince kissing superficiality, all tongue out,
eager to become a registered trademark, even before the symbol era.
The total opposite of the Pure Spirit that was brought out of darkness for too brief a moment.

Making holes in his pants (a rehash too: the conceptual well was definitely dry),
bending over and handing the vaseline to the corporate world and its shallow trends,
becoming a gizmo, yet another innocuous background noise for The Mall of America alleys.

"Dance commercial take one", yeah, you can say that again,
the whole era is artistically nutrient as half a bag of stale Cheetos.





[Edited 2/6/26 11:25am]



Call me crazy but I'm kind of picking up the vibe that you don't like this era razz In truth, I don't really like it either. The early 90s is by far my least favourite period in Prince's career. But even then, he still put out some great songs. Insatiable, Damn U, Cream, Peach, Money Don't Matter Tonight etc. Some great songs there. Unfortunately they can get lost in the shuffle of the Daddy Pops and Jugheads of the era but Prince is probably my favourite artist because even at his worst he was still capable of putting out something good.


For a whole slew of Prince fans....the early 90's (Diamonds and Pearls) was their intro into Prince. I knew 1999, Purple Rain, etc. because my parents had those albums. I got into Prince because of Batman....but I MF'N LOVE 90's Prince. As was said, he was reinvigorated in this era. Thus, to me: All this stuff still holds up.


_



Daddy Pop is the same vibe that he had Wally, Greg, and Jerome in the 80's. I mean, you look at the Glam Slam '92 concert and is some peak Prince shit. I realize some fans don't like certain eras, but to me this is a golden era.



Yeah I can understand how people might like that stuff if they were around for it as it was happening but from my point of view as someone who grew up after the whole new jack swing craze, it just falls flat. Not all of it though. Like I said, he was still putting out some brilliant work. But if I were given access to the vault and allowed to listen to anything that's in there I think I'd leave 1990 to 1993 until last.
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BonnieC look away.

Everyone else: https://mccullough.gosimi...llough.com

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ShellyMcG said:

skywalker said:

For a whole slew of Prince fans....the early 90's (Diamonds and Pearls) was their intro into Prince. I knew 1999, Purple Rain, etc. because my parents had those albums. I got into Prince because of Batman....but I MF'N LOVE 90's Prince. As was said, he was reinvigorated in this era. Thus, to me: All this stuff still holds up.

_

Daddy Pop is the same vibe that he had Wally, Greg, and Jerome in the 80's. I mean, you look at the Glam Slam '92 concert and is some peak Prince shit. I realize some fans don't like certain eras, but to me this is a golden era.

Yeah I can understand how people might like that stuff if they were around for it as it was happening but from my point of view as someone who grew up after the whole new jack swing craze, it just falls flat. Not all of it though. Like I said, he was still putting out some brilliant work. But if I were given access to the vault and allowed to listen to anything that's in there I think I'd leave 1990 to 1993 until last.

I hope you guys aren't basing your judgements of New Jack Swing upon Prince's interpretation of it. That's like basing your opinions of rap on Cat. I'm not saying it was the end all be all but there were good songs in that style.

As for Daddy Pop, I didn't care for it in real time because there were many better songs out in that style. Later on, it became more palatable for me.

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